The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread — Page 75

My plans for Yoda are to reduce him to a Form 0 practitioner. He will never ignite his sabre, he may even teach this to his younglings, "The best blades are kept in their sheaths."

Qui-Gon, Plo Koon, and Aayla Secura will all have yellow sabres, everyone else will have blue, Aayla Secura will replace Oppo on the council, until Obi-Wan takes over for her, she may still be in the final Jedi Council before the Purge.

Aayla Secura and Plo Koon with yellow sabres. What do you think? Aayla Secura will be killed by IG-88 and Plo Koon will be killed by Vader.

Also, check out my very slight edit of the cut Anakin vs Greedo scene that was cut from TPM.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP5defnEQ8A

tehwallaby said:

Aayla Secura will be killed by IG-88 and Plo Koon will be killed by Vader.

How exactly do you plan to accomplish this?

A CG IG-88 will be used for Aayla Secura scene. Using some existing footage of Darth Vader, and some creative video compositing I'll create the Plo Koon death.

I might use this shot for the Aayla Secura execution.

tehwallaby said:

A CG IG-88 will be used for Aayla Secura scene. Using some existing footage of Darth Vader, and some creative video compositing I'll create the Plo Koon death.

I'm assuming you mean costumed vader, killing Plo Koon. Isn't the existing death footage of Plo Koon in a starfighter?

Can't say I really care about seeing IG-88 in the prequels, but it's your edit :) Sounds pretty ambitious.

IMO though, costumed Vader needs to be cut completely to preserve some ambiguity about who vader is in the OT.

Costumed Vader will appear, but never before the end of the Battle of Heroes will we hear the word Vader uttered at all. And yes, my ROTS edit will be my most ambitious, whilst my TPM and AOTC edits will be far more low key, with smaller cuts. I'll have some footage up for my TPM edit in a couple of weeks, maybe a little more.

vaderios said:

some skillz? :)

I was thinking the same thing :P

No skillz on display yet, sorry. Mainly due to an absence of any, but I think I have the ability to at least do the scenes I'm talking about. It'll be a week before I'm back on my computer with high quality TPM rips, and editing software, so I might be delayed in that respect.

I'll try some more yellow sabre mockups, and possibly try getting some of Qui-Gon's scenes actually moving with the yellow sabre. I'm thinking that Qui-Gon will definitely have a yellow sabre, and if it turns out okay, I'll extend it to a few others.

My Jedi Purge scenes will be intertwined with shots of Padme giving birth, Yoda's exile(edited back in), The Declaration of a New Order, etc. The Plo Koon scene will be in the Jedi Temple (which will then proceed to explode), the Aayla Secura scene will be on Felucia, the Mace Windu scene will be at the Temple, and I think I'll just leave the rest of the Purge as is. We will see Fett and IG-88 viewing an announcement that all Jedi fetch a bounty or something to that effect, and so they will both seek their fortune with Windu and Secura respectively. The whole matter isn't very EU friendly, but I don't care on these matters.

I may include a scene in ROTS where the Clone Troopers become Storm Troopers, with a changing of armour perhaps. In any case we will see the 501st in Stormtrooper armour when the assault on the temple takes place.

vaderios said:

what are your plans to achieve all that?

My main source will be actual footage, footage that can have certain elements isolated. Beyond that I know people studying to be actors, who can perform against a green/blue screen for certain scenes, and most of the characters I want are in armour/costumes. If both fail I will fall back to CG, but hopefully it won't come to that, I'm not confident enough in my CG abilities to have major scenes play out without actual actors, I'm not GL after all...

Anyways, this is my ultimate version, the version I release may not have all of these aspects, but I'm going to try for everything.

I love all tose mockups angel!

BTW has anyone noticed how much in EP1 Jar-Jar is put in the background doing things that distract from the rest of the shot?

At the moment I'm still working on The Phantom Strikes, my TPM edit. The TPM edit will have as little Jar Jar as possible, the scenes he is in will have as little "tomfoolery" as possible. Here's how it plays out so far:

Alternate Opening Crawl - Based off of this.

Negotiations - There are no shots of the Neimodians, you just see all of the Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan parts.

Cut straight to the invasion force on Naboo - Meeting Jar Jar cut to a minimum.

No Otoh Gungah, no planet core.

Dramatic rescue of the Naboo - A few small cuts here and there throughout, making this punchier and faster.

Running the Blockade - Again, trimmed throughout.

Landing on Tattoine - See above.

Visiting Watto's Junkyard - Anakin's lines cut to a minimum, as well as Jar Jar's hijinks.

No fight with Sebulba.

Sheltering At the Skywalker Home - Small cuts, Threepio is built by Anakin but less dialogue by Anakin, conversation about slavery altered slightly, a lot of sections toned down to make Anakin a quiet, contemplative child.

The Podrace Sequence - Faster, punchier, more action and less shots of the actual racers. Just super-fast pods ripping around the track with explosions all around.

Anakin Beats Up Greedo - To show his dark side. Subtle use of Imperial March as foreshadowing.

This is as far as I have gone in the edit so far, and I'll probably start over again when I have my better computer back and I can use my higher quality rips and better software.

just oggling again at your mockups vaderios, it would be awesome to see a thread just for them!

i know you are an eager fan of the ROTS style colours, with harsh contrasts and pure blacks. have you ever tried making ROTS mockups of the OT?