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AxiaEuxine said:

That sir, right there, is exactly what I am talking about

 

Haha. Can't be helped :P

It's not like you're gonna find many people praising Lucas on this forum anyway. There are fan edits for a reason ;)

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as far as technology goes, i always just assumed it was something that was just standard, like in LOTR, technology seems to reamin at a standard level. perhaps its worth thinking of the technology like professional tennis techniques. the players only gradually improve, but certain techniques seem to be very popular until someone figures a counter to them, only for later on the old technique comes back around.

 

i must admit though the Exar Kun, Sith Empire and other old republic comics set as far back as KOTOR, did give an ancient feeling to STAR WARS. the spaceships were like submarines, and the lightsabers had power cords and looked much more fragile. the problem though, is artistically you want it to look like star wars i guess, and this era will allow alot more creativity to BioWare. Apparantly its going to have similar chunky graphics and gameplay to WOW, which would be better than the Galaxies format IMHO.

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I think they described the graphics style as 'stylized realism' or something. The screenshots I've seen of in game stuff looks cartoony, but not chunky like World of Warcraft's characters (except the creatures that are anatomically that way)

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AxiaEuxine said:

I for one cannot wait for the new Star Wars The Old Republic game. Hopefully the Star Wars MMO will be done well this time. I just wish something new would happen in Star Wars without everyone using it as an excuse to retread their dislike of Lucas and Star Wars. Cant you just enjoy that awesome trailer and leave it at that? Becuase I for one would just love to say GODDAMNEDTHATWASFUCKINGAWESOME!!!!!!!!!

As for the advancment of tech in Star Wars, yeah Ive always thought that it proceeded very slowly, but it's just something Ive come to accept about Star Wars.

I went full geek over the jedi knight games. If this game is at least similar in game play then I will kindly swallow it like jabba the hut on frog slugs. Jedi academy was only good on multiplayer. They made Luke seem a little odd in it. Kyle was badass in dark forces 2.

 

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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brash_stryker said:
AxiaEuxine said:

I for one cannot wait for the new Star Wars The Old Republic game. Hopefully the Star Wars MMO will be done well this time. I just wish something new would happen in Star Wars without everyone using it as an excuse to retread their dislike of Lucas and Star Wars. Cant you just enjoy that awesome trailer and leave it at that? Becuase I for one would just love to say GODDAMNEDTHATWASFUCKINGAWESOME!!!!!!!!!

As for the advancment of tech in Star Wars, yeah Ive always thought that it proceeded very slowly, but it's just something Ive come to accept about Star Wars.

This is Bioware's first venture into the MMO market, which leaves me a little bit worried that TOR won't live up to expectations, but not very.

RPGs are their specialty, and the fact that this one is online hopefully won't make any difference. In fact, it could work to their advantage. They are the gods of story driven RPGs, and that's the one thing most MMOs lack.

The release of any Bioware Star Wars game is always going to be followed by criticism of Lucas, because let's face it, Bioware know how to write Star Wars better than he does!

If the trailer is anything to go by, this will be EPIC!

All it needs IMO, to be truly great is a thriving in game economy, and player owned spaceships (possibly with space battles) a la EVE online, but that might be asking a little too much.

Half Life I believe was valves first game ever. They did it just for fun and that game is to this day a badass game. Half Life 2 was badass but it loads like im on dial up LOL

 

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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Sorry to ask again but is there anywhere any footage or photographs the unblocked back of the Trade Federation battleships?

I know there weren't that many physical models made but it's almost impossible to find any source material.

Composing new shots with that ship in will be very difficult with the limited number of angles and unblocked shots seen in the films.

I'm not even sure if there were any good model kits made (so it would be upto scratch builders to provide the necessary...probably).

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EyeShotFirst said:
AxiaEuxine said:

I for one cannot wait for the new Star Wars The Old Republic game. Hopefully the Star Wars MMO will be done well this time. I just wish something new would happen in Star Wars without everyone using it as an excuse to retread their dislike of Lucas and Star Wars. Cant you just enjoy that awesome trailer and leave it at that? Becuase I for one would just love to say GODDAMNEDTHATWASFUCKINGAWESOME!!!!!!!!!

As for the advancment of tech in Star Wars, yeah Ive always thought that it proceeded very slowly, but it's just something Ive come to accept about Star Wars.

I went full geek over the jedi knight games. If this game is at least similar in game play then I will kindly swallow it like jabba the hut on frog slugs. Jedi academy was only good on multiplayer. They made Luke seem a little odd in it. Kyle was badass in dark forces 2.

 

 

okay, now were getting a bit off topic, but if you like jedi knight, there are two mods you HAVE to check out. maybe we should make a game mods thread as it is like a fan-edit.

 

JK ENHANCED

its like STAR WARS REVISITED for Jedi Knight, a full graphic makeover that makes the game much more playable

 

JK COOP

made by the same genius. sadly doesnt include boc and jerec levels, but is a multiplayer version of the game, great for LAN play

 

i suggest playing these two together, with a simple glowsaber mod such as GLOWSABER X

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Reference to the game trailer is fine if it inspires radical prequel redux ideas but perhaps it would be better if game reviews and the like should be moved over to the other boards.

What could be taken from these games and put into the films to change them for the better?

I read that the podracing seen on the screens in the bar in AOTC was from the podracing game so there may be lots of ways of using game footage and ideas in these films.

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Chewie needs help. He doesnt look a thing like he did in the original trilogy. Sadly he looks older than the original trilogy chewie. I felt that chewie is more of a costume on ROTS than a more realistic OT chewie.

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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EyeShotFirst said:

Chewie needs help. He doesnt look a thing like he did in the original trilogy. Sadly he looks older than the original trilogy chewie. I felt that chewie is more of a costume on ROTS than a more realistic OT chewie.

I'd prefer that Chewie be removed from ROTS altogether !!! And you're right about that dreadful prequel costume !

 

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fishmanlee said:

i have a die cast model of the Trade Fed Control ships/s

I imagine they aren't very big or detailed, how do they look?

 

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Thanks for the photos, it's a little too small and detail free for close up work but maybe if scaled down to the far distance it might be usuable for mock ups at least.

The paintwork isn't a problem I can remove that with PS.

I haven't seen all of the Clone Wars episodes do they turn up there at all?

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Bingowings said:

Thanks for the photos, it's a little too small and detail free for close up work but maybe if scaled down to the far distance it might be usuable for mock ups at least.

The paintwork isn't a problem I can remove that with PS.

I haven't seen all of the Clone Wars episodes do they turn up there at all?

 


they do indeed, the only episode i can think of though is 'storm over ryloth' it gets blown up too. episode should be on youtube somewhere.

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Just to let you know: I finally got around to 'improving' the beta version of my "Meeting on Dagobah" video. It's mostly the same, with just a few improvements some people on here might like (or dislike?).

Anyway, here it is, in all it's glory.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVYndHkM9F0

 

I'll probably attempt some radical edits to the rest of the movie in the near future. Keep those ideas flowing! :)

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Davnes007 said:

Just to let you know: I finally got around to 'improving' the beta version of my "Meeting on Dagobah" video. It's mostly the same, with just a few improvements some people on here might like (or dislike?).

Anyway, here it is, in all it's glory.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVYndHkM9F0

 

I'll probably attempt some radical edits to the rest of the movie in the near future. Keep those ideas flowing! :)

It might work better if Yoda doesn't leave the ship until he steps outside to start his exile.

Moving the meditation and Bail's anouncement to the bridge of the Tantive.

I don't know if it's possible to move the arrival of Obi-Wan and Padme etc to the same corridor where Vader will later storm in ANH is possible but it would have a certain story resonance.

Watching this lovely mockup reminded me of something else which is a bit odd.

Why does R2 find it so amusing that his droid friend is about to be lobotomised?

Surely he should be making sounds of concern?

Compare it to the scene where Threepio is damaged and begs to be left behind in ANH R2 isn't laughing his little dome off there.

I like the way that Padme seems to have a telepathic link with Anakin and his pain is killing her not her just giving up.

That said, I would love to see an attempt to have Padme survive and live the rest of her short life on Alderaan so that Leia can remember her but people keen on her not being Luke's sister would not approve.

It would add to the confusion that Vader feels when he is told she is dead.

 

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I think a simple finger twitch during funeral procession or something along those lines would convey that well.

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Bingowings said:

It would add to the confusion that Vader feels when he is told she is dead.

 

Costumed vader has no place in ROTS IMO. At least if Anakin "dies" and never referred to as vader, there's an ambiguity and mystery to us seeing him in New Hope.

 

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Bingowings said:

Watching this lovely mockup reminded me of something else which is a bit odd. Why does R2 find it so amusing that his droid friend is about to be lobotomised? Surely he should be making sounds of concern?

That's true. Hadn't thought of that before. (I don't think of many PT things anyway) Perhaps replace (if possible) with that sad little 'awww' type thing that R2 does. Can't remember exactly when.

 

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