I was actually planning on using those VHS-style covers as a base, but I will be changing the backs around substantially, and possibly adding a border saying "THE STAR WARS TRILOGY" on top or something like that.
But covers for this project are a long way off at this stage.
ChainsawAsh said:I figure that Vader taunting Luke could be accomplished by changing his line to "If you will not be turned, then perhaps THEY will" instead of 'she,' referring to his friends. If that doesn't work, I'll try to figure something out.
or...
Vader: "give yourself to the dark side!"
Luke: Never!
(luke attacks)
John Williams score to Return of the Jedi Remastered/Remixed:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/JOHN-WILLIAMS-Star-Wars-Episode-VI-Return-of-the-Jedi-Remastered-Edition/topic/14606/page/1/
Actually, what I've seen of JasonN's ROTJ edit ("Last of the Jedi"), it seems that he's got a lot of the same ideas I do. He's also managed to do quite a good job with that very scene simply by removing the "sister" comment, making it seem as if Luke is in love with Leia in the same way that Han is. In fact, I may scrap this project altogether if JasonN's edit turns out as good as I think it might.
Then again, he's not rearranging the opening like I plan on doing ...
is it possible to make a VOB file for a section of a dvd, so you can just replace a chunk of the movie as oppose to redoing the whole thing? if so, you could just release an alternative opening crawl VOB to replace the original ones, and maybe with JasonNs permission, just replace his crawl to fit with your trilogy?
i would also like to just swap the ANH:R vader/obi wan duel with the purist one.;)
your ROTJ edit sounds great!! Can't wait to see where it goes!
One possible issue with it's text crawl in red. I read somewhere that when using a projection system that red text is difficult for the human eye to see well. especially against black. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. I know most of us will be watching it on laptops or TVs, but just thought I'd throw that out there.
Again, I look forward to your ROTJ edit! (and I love the ideas of going Episode-less intros!)
Better to light a candle than to curse the darkness - Chinese proverb
ChainsawAsh said:My other question: How do I make the crawl "disappear" the way it does in the films in After Effects (I'm using CS4)? I figured out how to get the main logo to dissolve, but it appears that the crawl itself doesn't dissolve uniformly (that is, the upper portions fade earlier than the lower portions). How would I do that in After Effects, for anyone knowledgeable in that subject area?
well this is the way i do it.
once you have your crawl (without the starfield and the logo) composition set up rename it something like "crawl" (you don't have to its just easier if i call it that for the purpose of explaining this) create a new composition ( we'll call it crawl 2) and drag " crawl" composition into it. create a duplicate and disable the bottom layer. now drag the timeline bar to where the crawl should begin to fade (its furthest distance point). use the pen tool to create a cut-out mask so this only contains the bottom section of the frame like this; ( i know this has a starfield but i don't have the project files handy at the moment, but this gives you the idea)
now you'll see that the mask selection is a lot larger than the frame at the sides and bottom. you need to do this due to the next stage. Now feather the mask to a high value. just keep increasing the value of the feathering until you can see the top few lines now appear a lot darker than the rest ( you may have to change the masks expansion to a negative value. change these settings until you get the desired effect but without noticeably eliminating the text. now re-enable the bottom text layer. add the "levels" effect and drag the white output down to 0. the text is now solid black. this is to create a solid text mask so the feathering won't create transparent text when overlaid upon the starfield. now this composite is finished. Now create a third composition and drag 2 crawl 2" onto it. add the starfield and the logo. to make the logo darken as it shrinks just use keyframes and lower the brightness slightly and keyframe the fade.
i'm not sure what is causing the rainbow effect but i do get a flickering effect when i tried it. this is to do with After effects scaling. this can be eliminated but this means more masking, extra composites and effects but i'll get to that in another post.
That helps a lot - in fact, thanks to your post Ady, I think I'll finally start serious work on this project tomorrow. Beyond the initial idea and the opening crawl test, I haven't been able to get excited about taking on this project in full, but now you've got me thinking about it again :-P
Seriously thoughk, thanks a bunch, that's a big help.
ChainsawAsh said:Actually, what I've seen of JasonN's ROTJ edit ("Last of the Jedi"), it seems that he's got a lot of the same ideas I do. He's also managed to do quite a good job with that very scene simply by removing the "sister" comment, making it seem as if Luke is in love with Leia in the same way that Han is. In fact, I may scrap this project altogether if JasonN's edit turns out as good as I think it might.
Then again, he's not rearranging the opening like I plan on doing ...
But then how do you plan to solve the love triangle? Something has to happen and somebody has to get pissed at some point
there is no love trangle its all in hans mind! (i know i dont believe it either)
John Williams score to Return of the Jedi Remastered/Remixed:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/JOHN-WILLIAMS-Star-Wars-Episode-VI-Return-of-the-Jedi-Remastered-Edition/topic/14606/page/1/
Luke loves Leia and is not physically attracted to her. Same with Leia. They both realize why this is because they are twins.
Han loves Leia and Leia loves Han and both are attacted to eachother. They get married and have kids.
Its a weird triangle.
My Youtube Accounts OfficialPeterFisher http://www.youtube.com/user/OfficialPeterFisher and JediMasterFisher http://www.youtube.com/user/JediMasterFisher
JediMasterFisher said:Luke loves Leia and is not physically attracted to her. Same with Leia. They both realize why this is because they are twins.
Han loves Leia and Leia loves Han and both are attacted to eachother. They get married and have kids.
Its a weird triangle.
Yeah but if Luke and Leia aren't related, how can it be resolved?
Make ESB a hentai. Brother and sister sex is allowed...
See no worries :)
-Angel
JediMasterFisher said:Luke loves Leia and is not physically attracted to her. Same with Leia. They both realize why this is because they are twins.
Han loves Leia and Leia loves Han and both are attacted to eachother. They get married and have kids.
Sigh, more EU bullsh*t...
In a universe where Luke and Leia aren't twins it opens up the possibility that the other is Anakin himself.
Which sort of lets Ben and Yoda seem less like patricide keen gits.
They intuitively know that Anakin might turn back at the last minute, if Luke can keep from turning but can't interfere in the process for reasons best known to Jedi.
Bingowings said:In a universe where Luke and Leia aren't twins it opens up the possibility that the other is Anakin himself.
Which sort of lets Ben and Yoda seem less like patricide keen gits.
They have an intuitively know that Anakin might turn back at the last minute, if Luke can keep from turning but can't interfere in the process for reasons best known to Jedi.
never thought of that....great idea!
vaderios said:Make ESB a hentai. Brother and sister sex is allowed...
See no worries :)
-Angel
If I had a sister that looked like Carrie Fisher...
Well, I don't have a problem with the way the movies are now. But it would be nice if Lucas hadn't started opening cans of worms just to tie up loose ends.
Bingowings said:In a universe where Luke and Leia aren't twins it opens up the possibility that the other is Anakin himself.
Which sort of lets Ben and Yoda seem less like patricide keen gits.
They intuitively know that Anakin might turn back at the last minute, if Luke can keep from turning but can't interfere in the process for reasons best known to Jedi.
Huh... I really like that interpretation as well.
Hmmmm. If you cut from "Give yourself to the dark side"...to "Never!!"....you're really missing a HUGE moment in the entire Star Wars saga. There would be no spark to set off Luke to "use his anger' and really dance the line of turning to the dark side. I applaud your creativity, but I can't agree with robbing Jedi of arguably it's most powerful moment.
wwdarth said:Hmmmm. If you cut from "Give yourself to the dark side"...to "Never!!"....you're really missing a HUGE moment in the entire Star Wars saga. There would be no spark to set off Luke to "use his anger' and really dance the line of turning to the dark side. I applaud your creativity, but I can't agree with robbing Jedi of arguably it's most powerful moment.
I agree, that's the real problem and it's set up by Lucas changing Force use into a inherited trait instead of something that is obtainable by even the most humble of farm boys.
If anyone could be a Jedi it wouldn't be necessary for Leia to be his sister to be the other.
Vader could still threaten to turn the love of his life, just as much as his only other living relative, making it the Force choosing people rather than choosing dynasties.
I can't really see a realistic way out of that other than keeping it the way it is.
Seperated siblings is a classic story motif and in real cases of that sort there is often a strong physical attraction (sometimes even after the relationship is revealed for what it is).
It's a bit dark and gritty for a film with cute teddy bear warriors but Star Wars does seem to have an identity crisis between being adult fantasy and a fairy tale with lasers.
I know ChainsawAsh already ignored me but what do you other people think of this:
Making the "V" longer in revenge?
interesting idea, but it doest make much sense visually or logically.
fatten the v and lenghten the v
or make the s blend into the line under the
John Williams score to Return of the Jedi Remastered/Remixed:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/JOHN-WILLIAMS-Star-Wars-Episode-VI-Return-of-the-Jedi-Remastered-Edition/topic/14606/page/1/
Like this?
i think more like this
John Williams score to Return of the Jedi Remastered/Remixed:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/JOHN-WILLIAMS-Star-Wars-Episode-VI-Return-of-the-Jedi-Remastered-Edition/topic/14606/page/1/
fishmanlee said:i think more like this
They already did that on the first page.