The ANH:SE Redux Ideas thread (Radical Ideas Welcome). — Page 7

vaderios said:

omnithx said:

The only 'errors' that still exist and annoy me are the following:

Stormtrooper damage that shows how flimsy the armour really is.

Threepio's flip-flopping stain.

Something minor really, but Leesub Sirln's movement in this scene has continuity issues.

Take the edited post from me to see it ;)

 

-Angel

 

 The only thing that's always bothered me was the stormtrooper's armor. It brings me out of the movie everytime, looks like the Empire put their soldiers in cheap ripable plastic. Oh well they already can't see right? Why bother letting their armor not split all the time? :P

BTW is it me or does anyone else notice the scene with 3PO talkin to Owen at the sale that wires on 3PO's back are still in a shot or 2, the bottom part of the wires, below 3PO's back thing that sticks out.

Forgive the roughness of these mock-ups but (and I appreciate how difficult it will be) the helmets of the Rebel pilots need more than just an insignia colour change.

Ady recognised this when he changed the insignia from blue to red but the clean helmet squadron don't appear in the battle so it's still kind of odd that get such prominant screen time.

vaderios said:

omnithx said:

The only 'errors' that still exist and annoy me are the following:

Stormtrooper damage that shows how flimsy the armour really is.

Threepio's flip-flopping stain.

Something minor really, but Leesub Sirln's movement in this scene has continuity issues.

Take the edited post from me to see it ;)

 

-Angel

 

 Thanks for fixing that up for me. The other thing I nearly forgot is the continuity error with the WED Treadwell Droid's 'arms' in this scene.

Ah, thanks for the tip Ripplin. I've just progressed from village idiot to dumbass.

one thing i think that should be done in the context of all six movie is to omit vader being obiwan's pupil.

episode 3 revisited should have vader's name be omited from the entire film, have anakin "die" (infact when they show his arm crawling up,, it should be engulfed in flames) and not have the scene of vader being built or seen in the star destroyer bridge.

in episode 4, obiwan's line of vader killing luke's should be tweaked

Obiwan " a "sith" named darth vader who helped the empire hunt down and destroy the jedi knights betrayed and murdered you fath...now the jedi are all but extinct..."

another place the dialog should be tweaked is in the death star scene with vader

vader "he is here"

tarkin "obiwan kenobi..how can you be sure"

vader "a tremor in the force"

Tarkin "surely he must be dead by now the jedi are extinct (something) gone in the galaxy you my friend are all that's left of their religion"

and finally in the fight between vader and obiwan

vader "...the circle is now complete, when i left, i was but a learner now i am the master"

this idea is just a way to make first time viewers who would watch the movie in chronological order believe that anakin and vader are 2 different character and so, he suspense remains till esb when the viewer finally learns that vader and anakin had been the same character all along.

fishmanlee said:

 how bout instead of: "the circle is now complete, when i left, i was but a learner now i am the master"
have this: the circle is now complete, I was once but a learner now i am the master"

I like that better, the way the prequels are made that line a joke.

I think this line should be removed:

Wookies are known to do that? What? Is this like some kind of innate trait that all wookies have? We don't need to be told "wookies are known to do that." It is excessive and sounds like prequel George Lucas dialog. I was hoping to hear this gone in Revisited.

Um ... yeah ...

We never see the Death Star go into or come out of hyperspace. It doesn't look like it has the capability to do that, but it must if it travels that quickly. I was thinking that maybe the Star Destroyers pull it, but that would have to be some pretty strong chains/rope to pull something that big at lightspeed. 

Funny not matter what is done there will always some people saying there still needs to be changes.

Janskeet said:

I think this line should be removed:

Wookies are known to do that? What? Is this like some kind of innate trait that all wookies have? We don't need to be told "wookies are known to do that." It is excessive and sounds like prequel George Lucas dialog. I was hoping to hear this gone in Revisited.

 

Human's are known to cheat on their spouses, it doesn't mean they all do or that they do it all the time.

The line is very important not only to the film but the saga in general as it underlines that droids are essentially slaves and if they have ideas above their station they can be damaged and destroyed and their organic masters will react in much the same way as if someone pulled the wing mirror off a car or blew up a fridge.

They feel physical discomfort, they are intelligent and have a degree of free will but they are property (time for a revolution golden rod).

Bingowings said:

Janskeet said:

I think this line should be removed:

Wookies are known to do that? What? Is this like some kind of innate trait that all wookies have? We don't need to be told "wookies are known to do that." It is excessive and sounds like prequel George Lucas dialog. I was hoping to hear this gone in Revisited.

 

Human's are known to cheat on their spouses, it doesn't mean they all do or that they do it all the time.

The line is very important not only to the film but the saga in general as it underlines that droids are essentially slaves and if they have ideas above their station they can be damaged and destroyed and their organic masters will react in much the same way as if someone pulled the wing mirror off a car or blew up a fridge.

They feel physical discomfort, they are intelligent and have a degree of free will but they are property (time for a revolution golden rod).

 I don't think the lines about that at all. To me, it's about Wookiees having short tempers and overreacting to situations. Han is simply reminding the droids of this. Threepio at first misinterprets his response as inconsideration, but then concedes that the point is in fact warranted. Han using the term Wookiee a second time is simply clarifying his point.

omnithx said:

Bingowings said:

Janskeet said:

I think this line should be removed:

Wookies are known to do that? What? Is this like some kind of innate trait that all wookies have? We don't need to be told "wookies are known to do that." It is excessive and sounds like prequel George Lucas dialog. I was hoping to hear this gone in Revisited.

 

Human's are known to cheat on their spouses, it doesn't mean they all do or that they do it all the time.

The line is very important not only to the film but the saga in general as it underlines that droids are essentially slaves and if they have ideas above their station they can be damaged and destroyed and their organic masters will react in much the same way as if someone pulled the wing mirror off a car or blew up a fridge.

They feel physical discomfort, they are intelligent and have a degree of free will but they are property (time for a revolution golden rod).

 

 I don't think the lines about that at all. To me, it's about Wookiees having short tempers and overreacting to situations. Han is simply reminding the droids of this. Threepio at first misinterprets his response as inconsideration, but then concedes that the point is in fact warranted. Han using the term Wookiee a second time is simply clarifying his point.

I was refering to the importance of the line not it's use in the context of the scene, which is minor (but fun).

You aren't denying the slave status of droids (and Clonetroopers for that matter) in the Star Wars saga, I hope?

Bingowings said:

omnithx said:

Bingowings said:

Janskeet said:

I think this line should be removed:

Wookies are known to do that? What? Is this like some kind of innate trait that all wookies have? We don't need to be told "wookies are known to do that." It is excessive and sounds like prequel George Lucas dialog. I was hoping to hear this gone in Revisited.

 

Human's are known to cheat on their spouses, it doesn't mean they all do or that they do it all the time.

The line is very important not only to the film but the saga in general as it underlines that droids are essentially slaves and if they have ideas above their station they can be damaged and destroyed and their organic masters will react in much the same way as if someone pulled the wing mirror off a car or blew up a fridge.

They feel physical discomfort, they are intelligent and have a degree of free will but they are property (time for a revolution golden rod).

 

 I don't think the lines about that at all. To me, it's about Wookiees having short tempers and overreacting to situations. Han is simply reminding the droids of this. Threepio at first misinterprets his response as inconsideration, but then concedes that the point is in fact warranted. Han using the term Wookiee a second time is simply clarifying his point.

I was refering to the importance of the line not it's use in the context of the scene, which is minor (but fun).

You aren't denying the slave status of droids (and Clonetroopers for that matter) in the Star Wars saga, I hope?

 

 

 Not at all, I just don't think Threepio's thinks of it like that.

fishmanlee said:

oh and with adywans edit, can the imp march for the death star reveal be replaced with this version?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP7yQcZKpe4

If you do it yourself.  Ady's done with ANH:R for good.

I never understood Obi Wan's little smirk after Han says, it's the ship that made the Kessel run in less than 12 parsecs, perhaps it could be removed:

Why does Han smile after Obi Wan says: only passengers, myself, the boy, two droids, and no questions asked? Always seemed to me like an inappropriate facial gesture for that moment. I always thought he should have given a serious look in that shot.

Okay ... really?

Fine, I'll play along:  What about Obi-Wan's "smirk" is inappropriate?  He's "smirking" because Han's boasting is probably exaggerated, and he doesn't buy it.  Han's trying to put one over on a crazy old fossil, but Obi-Wan's smarter than that.

And why is Han's smile inappropriate?  He's not taking their "local trouble" seriously, but once Obi-Wan mentions the Empire he realizes that there's more to this old guy and whiny kid than he initially suspected.

Here's a line I don't understand:

"If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine." Huh? How's that? I don't see how that would make him any more powerful, it would just make it easier for Vader to kill him.

We saw Luke and Vader get struck down and that didn't make them any more powerful.