STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION — Page 285

Here, I'll post it again. I don't remember exactly what I typed, but I'll do it to the best of my recollection:

Adywan, I noticed you didn't include usernames that got banned from the credits of ANH Revisited. I know you said you won't be making further changes to ANH: R, but if you change your mind could you include my username in the credits?

And then this was unrelated and I think I posted it earlier and I thought I asked this stuff already, that's why I deleted it.

Why did Lucasfilm pointlessly censore these shots when they should have been working on continuity errors and color correction? It's not like these shots would bring the movie's rating above a PG? 

RoccondilRinon said:

You don't deserve credit on a movie if you don't do anything to help in its making.

OK fine, stupid of me to ask in the first place.

Hey just for laughs, in the credits you should put Janskeet- but we're suspitious he might be formally known as zigfried.

Haha. This latest revelation is amusing :D

One thing I'm curious of. If Adywan was to "redo" ANH:R using the German HD source instead of the DVD source, how much work would this be?

I'm assuming it wouldn't just be a case of replacing the original source video file with the new one, and all the changes are not simply "overlays" for lack of a better word.

In premiere, for example, if I was to edit using a video file and then changed the file's location, premiere would then ask me to direct it to the file. If I were to direct it to a different file which was the same video but higher quality, all these changes would be applied in exactly the same way but I'd end up with a better quality version.

What I'm pondering is, would adywan be able to simply direct the program to the German HD source instead of the original, and still retain all or most of the changes in his project.

A long shot I know. My knowledge of after effects is limited, so I don't know whether it actually alters the source video when using it, or adds new overlays (or whatever you'd call them) to your timeline.

Sorry if I'm not making myself very clear.

EDIT: Also, this is in no way a request for Adywan to actually redo ANH:R. I understand how annoying such requests can be. I'm simply curious about how the process works, is all :)

It would be a lot of work, for two reasons:

1) He would have to re-do all effects work that was originally done in SD from scratch

2) He'd have to rebuild the entire thing from scratch anyway, since Ady no longer has the original files, which is also why we'll never get a 480p high-bitrate mp4 or mkv.

I believe the files were lost when a hard drive failed, or Ady just deleted them because he thought he'd never need them again ... I don't remember to be honest.

So, while your file-replacement idea wouldn't be a bad one, it's just technically impossible since the original files no longer exist.  He'd literally have to start everything over from scratch.

Not to mention he'd have to painstakingly, manually color-correct every shot ..... again.

Ah :) I'm not bothered anyway, I was just curious. I'm more than happy with my DVD9!

If he ever was to go down that route (I know he won't, but hey)  then there's only a couple of things I'd change. I know you've probably heard this all before, Ady, but please don't take offense at my constructive criticism.

I like the new order of the scene in Ben's hut (and anyone who doesn't has the purist edition right?) but luke's reply of "no my father didn't fight in the wars" comes a little quick in my opinion but this is the most minor gripe I have, and delving deeper, his quick response could even hint that luke knew what Ben was going to say before he finished saying it - Jedi Precognition :P

The Snivvian in the cantina (in the scene where the troopers walk past Han and Chewie) has had his face animated, but it doesn't look right (in contrast with all the other cantina aliens, which look absolutely excellent) maybe he should have been left unanimated. He has what I can only describe as 'melty face syndrome'.

The scene where it cuts from that alien radioing the troopers, to luke and ben approaching the falcon used a fade instead of a straight cut. I felt that a straight cut worked better.

When Ben gets struck down, the plinky noise in the music as a result of the transition being sped up is a bit jarring and could perhaps use some softening up.

THAT'S IT. Those are the only problems I had with this edit, and this is coming from both a supreme star wars geek, and a perfectionist. I'm sorry if I've offended in any way by posting my observations, especially at this late stage.

EDIT: All these things bother me less and less every time I watch it (watched it again last night) so it's probably more to do with unfamiliarity than any actual problems.

Tobar said:

Actually I didn't like the change to the Snivvian but that's only because he repeats the exact same actions twice. It was like two blinks and a lip curl that he does and then a second later he repeats the exact same movement. It would have been more realistic to have him either do one or the other or start with both and then the second time only do one. There was one or two other examples of that but I can't recall specifically at the moment. Overall though I liked the enhancements.

This repetition of actions doesn't bother me at all (I didn't even notice this) although it might do now that you've pointed it out. THANKS A BUNCH! :p

What bothers me is his mouth and nose seem to move together, and it just looks like his face is stretching unnaturally. It's the only instance in the cantina that pulls me out and reminds me that this was done using 'Meshwarp' (I think that's what it's called)

adywan said:

The fade was always there until the SE. I never liked the straight cut which is why i restored the original fade

I guess it just looks out of place to me because any of the other instances where there were previously fades, have been changed to wipes, making this the only remaining fade in the whole film (correct me if I'm wrong)

Yeah wicket, i see you. PM's on the way. Again! Make sure it spreads though.

brash_stryker said:

Haha. This latest revelation is amusing :D

One thing I'm curious of. If Adywan was to "redo" ANH:R using the German HD source instead of the DVD source, how much work would this be?

I'm assuming it wouldn't just be a case of replacing the original source video file with the new one, and all the changes are not simply "overlays" for lack of a better word.

In premiere, for example, if I was to edit using a video file and then changed the file's location, premiere would then ask me to direct it to the file. If I were to direct it to a different file which was the same video but higher quality, all these changes would be applied in exactly the same way but I'd end up with a better quality version.

What I'm pondering is, would adywan be able to simply direct the program to the German HD source instead of the original, and still retain all or most of the changes in his project.

A long shot I know. My knowledge of after effects is limited, so I don't know whether it actually alters the source video when using it, or adds new overlays (or whatever you'd call them) to your timeline.

Sorry if I'm not making myself very clear.

 

EDIT: Also, this is in no way a request for Adywan to actually redo ANH:R. I understand how annoying such requests can be. I'm simply curious about how the process works, is all :)

Now these German HD broadcasts are like 16.5GB right? I thought Adywan did use that for his revisited project and sized it down to DVD specs for mass distribution.

Janskeet said:

Now these German HD broadcasts are like 16.5GB right? I thought Adywan did use that for his revisited project and sized it down to DVD specs for mass distribution.

No. He used a dvd for ANH before the German HD broadcasts became available to him.

wicket said:

is there anyone who can make me a copy of Ady's New Hope Revisited (PAL) ?  Mine got scratched in the post ; it chips heavily during the whole disc ; I would appreciate this very much ; some guys have promised me to send me a copy over, but I've been waiting for several weeks now and received no answer ; make someone happy in Belgium ; I'll make several copies of the received dvd disc and spread them around here ; PM me

Actually, I've only been able to find a PAL copy of the DVD5, myself. My DVD9 is NTSC, so if anyone can help me out too with a PAL DVD9, I'll gladly cover postage and the cost of the disk (and of course will distribute it as I've already been doing)

EDIT: Jonno is helping me out. Thanks a lot! :)