Evil Dead IV

Yeah, yeah, I know, this has been talked about since Army of Darkness came out.

But Sam Raimi confirmed just this March that he and his brother are in fact working on the script (though from the sounds of it, it isn't a very big priority).

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=24473

For a while they were talking about making a remake, but from the sounds of things, Bruce Campbell confirmed last year that the remake is dead. Which is fine with me, what I really want is a sequel to Army of Darkness. I am excited to hear the script is being worked on, and really hope the thing gets made in the not too distant future.

I know there are a few ED fans on these boards. What do you guy think about an Evil Dead IV?

I am not a fan of over milking things. Sure, I think three Evil Dead movies are more than enough. A sequel really isn't needed. The number of franchises from the 80's and 90's that are presently getting sequels is really lame, and IMHO shows that Hollywood is hard up for new ideas. But I guess the thing that always made the Evil Dead so great was that it wasn't sacred. It would piss all over itself, and we'd love it all the more for it.

They even have two directions they could go with it. They could continue from the S-Mart ending, or pick up right where The Director's Cut of Army of Darkness left off with Ash sleeping too long. This is what I'd rather see them do. In this way, they could pick up right where they left off without Campbell's age being an issue. If his hair grew while he slept, then it stands to reason he might age a little during that time as well. Evil Dead isn't even the kind of movie where that kind of thing matters anyway. Technically AOD begins the very same evening as the first Evil Dead began, and Ash is clearly much older. Or they could pick up after the S-Mart ending.

One thing is for sure, if they don't stick with the silly low budget looking stop motion special effects & bad makeup, and switch to CG instead, I think it'll ruin it. Those things are so much a part of ED.

I thought they already found the new ash for the remake.  Which i would not have seen anyway.  The only one i like is the jokey third film anyway since i'm not a serious horror or gore fan.

Shop Smart shop S mart,lol.

My favorite is quoting the day the earth stood still as an invocation while using the necronimicon.  Klaatu.  Barada. Nikto,lol.

Isn't Raimi busy with the sword of truth which he had redubbed the legend of the seeker.  And also busy working out the plot for spider man 4.

Speaking of sequels ghostbusters 3 is really going forward.  Lol.  I'm not kidding even a little bit.  Another 80's franchise to butcher.  They even somehow cajoled bill murrey into it.

They are also redoing robocop.  And they have a gi joe movie coming out that is supposed to be part michael bay transformers and part jj star trek, lol.

They are making a Voltron movie.  And a Robotech movie.  Not sure what other franchises they will rape.  Thank goodness those masters of the universe and thundercats plans fell through.  Ever see the awful duke of hazard remake?

Though the Jason remake already happened which was stupid friday the 13th remake.  They have another stupid sequel of the remake to halloween coming out.  And they are going forward with the nighmare on elmstreet freddy kruger remake without robert englund.

Plus some asswhole is remaking the awesome film The thing.  Already a sci fi classic.  well they ruined planet of the apes, war of the worlds. the time machine, and the day the earth stood still so why not another.

Do you think Bruce Campbell is too old for a IV ED film?

Could he get into the physical shape necesary to do the film.  And if so would they fake all the stunts with cgi like indiana jones IV to make sure the actor gets not hurt.

I am one of the people who thinks some of these dudes are too old to do these films.  I mean die hard 4, with a possible die hard 5 with bruce willis.  Arnold wants to do another 2 terminator films and supposedly also a conan the barbarian.  Sly stallone wants to do rambo V and the studio want him to do rocky 7.

Harrison Ford was almost too old to be Indiana Jones in IV and just barely pulled it off.  A fifth film would be ridculous.

skyjedi2005 said:

The only one i like is the jokey third film anyway since i'm not a serious horror or gore fan.

I am not a horror fan by any means either. Have you seen the second film, sky? It is as jokey as the third one. There is a bit more of a horror eliment to Evil Dead II than Army of Darkness, but like its sequel, it is very much intended to be a comedy. It is in fact one of the funniest movies I have seen in my entire life. I still crack up every time I watch it... I even crack up when I just think about watching it.

It is a great movie, especially being watched late at night with some buddies and a few beers. But even beerless, alone, and during the day time, its greatness shines brilliantly.

Trust me sky, from a fellow non-fan of the horror genre, you've got to see Evil Dead II before you write it off. Skip the first one, it is downright creepy (in a cheesy fun kind of way), and the second one gives an inaccurate, but good enough full recap of the events of the first one anyway. The commentaries on the second and third films alone have more entertainment and comedic value to them than all the top comedies of the last three years combined.

skyjedi2005 said:

Do you think Bruce Campbell is too old for a IV ED film?

 

He is only 50. Harrison Ford was in his mid sixties when he did IJATKOTCS.

And the character of Ash is suppose to be a loser who works at a department store and acts like a self important ass all the time. He doesn't have to do a lot of real challenging physical stuff like Indiana Jones.

So basically what your saying is the second film is at least worth a netflix rental right?

I have lost track of just how many horror films i have seen on tv.

Most are forgetable and i never really remember the titles.

I don't think i have seen II because they play III on tv all the time.  and censored too.  Which is dumb. Army of Darkness i saw on vhs when it first came out.  And i thought it was the worst film i had ever seen at the time deliberately campy in a madcap sort of way.  And i saw some brilliance there in the way raimi used the cheap budget.  Never had i seen such almost documentary like style cheaply made a film.  Before i ever saw that the cheapest films i saw where bad kung fu marathons not quite bruce lee caliber and sergio leone spaghtetti westerns.

There was something bizarrely fascinating though about the movie it was so darn funny and entertaining.  Kind of like Return of the Living dead.  Which is not half the film army is.  I can almost see a bit of George Romero in the young raimi.  Like night of the living dead.

Army of Darkness plays on TV all the time, because it is a pretty easy film to edit for content. Evil Dead II however is so over the top violent (we are talking Monty Python style blood splirts, not anything realistic) that most TV stations wouldn't be able to play it during waking hour without having to edit it down to a ten minute runtime, if they even managed to make it that long.

I think Evil Dead II is a far funnier film than Army of Darkness. If you liked Army of Darkness in the least, then Evil Dead II is definitely worth a netflix rental. Grab AOD while you are at it, and watch them back to back. They fit together seamlessly like one long movie. Then make a point to rewatch them both with the commentary on (note: only the director's cut of AOD has the commentary. I like the director's cut ending far better than the S-Mart ending, but unfortunately all the director's cut DVD transfers are pretty crappy).

C3PX said:

They even have two directions they could go with it. They could continue from the S-Mart ending, or pick up right where The Director's Cut of Army of Darkness left off with Ash sleeping too long.

I could go either way, but I know people who couldn't stand the Director's Cut ending.  They felt that the sleeping to long thing was just way to lame.  They were much happier with the over the top S-Mart ending.  I think the S-Mart ending is a lot funner too, so having a fourth one start out from there would be pretty cool.

I like them both well enough. But I agree with Sam Raimi and Bruce Campbell that the director's cut ending feels more appropriate. Since it is their prefered ending, I am 90% certain that a fourth film will work off of that one.

Yeah, but it is still closely connected. Just instead of having him blow the head of the flying deadite and become a hero, he gets captured and sentenced to death. So it wasn't like they started from scratch.

You could actually edit all three Evil Dead films together (I've considered doing this, but never got around to it), snip out a few redundant bits, and end up with one long movie in which the main character ages very rapidly. I'd like to see them keep that trend with ED IV, if it ever gets made.

I'D LOVE TO SEE AN EVIL DEAD IV MADE.

DarkGryphon2048 said:

What about EVIL DEAD: A Fistful of Boomstick and EVIL DEAD: Regeneration? Two very great games of which I own on XBOX but play on my 360. I've played alot of Regeneration, barely purchased AFoB, have the EVIL DEAD: Ultimate Edition 3-Disc and Army of Darkness MGM Region 3 NTSC DVD. I'm only missing EVIL DEAD II: Dead by Dawn, baby.

You know, until now, I have only heard negative things about those two games. I am always drawn to them when seeing them on the shelf at Gamespot, but the words of my friends telling me how much they suck echo in my head turning me away from them. Checking online reviews, seems most reviews were not pleased either. I still think I might check them out sometime. So they are both backwards compatible on the 360 then, right?

Gryphon, you know you can pick up copies of Dead by Dawn pretty cheap these days? I saw a used copy for just $8 the other day. If you don't have any decent used DVD stores in your area, I am sure ebay, amazon, or your prefered online vendor of first and second hand goods carries it at a reasonable price. Seem a shame to leave the collection incomplete. ;) Personally, I still feel Dead by Dawn is by far the best of the series.

@Dayv, alright! Sounds like you and I are on the same page with this one. I really hope this gets made.

So what happened to the reboot of the first evil dead film?

Does Raimi still have what it takes?

I saw some pretty laughably bad previews for a cheapy horror movie he made recently called drag me to hell.

Spider Man 3 was pretty bad imho, yet he is supposed to be directing part 4 with Tobey as spidey again.

So far they have not been able to get everyone on board though i think Kirsten Dunst does not want to do another one.

His tv show adapting the sword of truth fantasy legend of the seeker was also absolute shit.

He might not be the greatest director ever but i thought the first 2 spider man films were pretty well made.

The third one not a terrible film by a long shot, still it felt disjointed and felt like they were trying to cram way too many plots and villians into a single film.

skyjedi2005 said:

So what happened to the reboot of the first evil dead film?

Does Raimi still have what it takes?

Well, I think I read that they discovered there really wasn't that much interest in a remake of the first one. The modern horror movie fans will suck up absolutely anything with very little standards, and Evil Dead fans had no interest in a remake without Ash/Bruce Campbell.

I think Raimi still has a lot of tricks in him. Not all of his stuff has always been good in the past either. I still think the first two Spidey films are near perfect comic book movies. Something went horribly wrong with three (and I mean HORRIBLY!) but it doesn't mean he has lost it, or no longer has what it takes. 

I am sorry to hear another two Spidey films are on the way. I think that is unfortunate. Even if three had been fantastic, a fourth and fifth this soon just doesn't sound like it could possibly be a good idea.

KIRSTIN DUNST HAS SIGNED ON TO REPRISE THE ROLE OF MJ IN THE NEXT SPIDER-MAN MOVIE.

Because he's an attention-seeking retard.

All caps is Dayv's trademark. Or as he likes to say, "I TYPE IN ALL CAPS, BECAUSE I CAN". I think I asked a similar question when I first joined, and was met with a similar answer.

You'll get used to it.

I am guessing Dayv was the kind of kid the teacher always had to remind to use his "inside voice".

Moth3r said:

Because he's an attention-seeking retard.

Oh, well, yeah, that too. ;)

There seem to be quite a few people online who post in all caps.  When i see a movie review written that way for instance i don't even bother reading the thing.

Even people on Amazon use that when reviewing books and movies.  Usually if i see they posted a review in all caps i vote the review down,lol.  Especially if it is a review for a dvd or blu ray which is not out yet.

Nothing is more annoying than people reviewing something they don't own.

skyjedi2005 said:

Even people on Amazon use that when reviewing books and movies.  Usually if i see they posted a review in all caps i vote the review down,lol.

 

So what you are saying is that you are prejudice against cap writers? And I actually thought this country was making great strides in tolerance, boy was I wrong!