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Why was the '04 DVD set such a botched release? — Page 4

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Look I'm sorry but I am not complaning about the 2004 dvd releases like everybuddy else is. It's been 4 years since they came out stop complaning about them and be happy with the releases and not so nagitve.

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kenkraly2007 said:

Look I'm sorry but I am not complaning about the 2004 dvd releases like everybuddy else is. It's been 4 years since they came out stop complaning about them and be happy with the releases and not so nagitve.

But why should we be happy with a product that has so many problems? The sound is all messed up with the music in ANH coming from the wrong channels. Sound fx are coming from the incorrect speakers, The colour on ANH & ESB is beyond bad and is a joke. It was a rushed & botched set of DVD's but Lucasfilm deny that there is anything wrong with them even when the evidence is presented to them. They just spout crap like " it was a creative decision".

It may be 4 years since they originally came out but look just how many re-releases there have been. They released the original theatrical versions as a bonus disc so if we wanted them we had to buy the 2004 set again, but still no fixes. then it turns out that the Theatrical versions were lame ass laserdisc transfers that weren't even anamorphic so look terrible on a 16:9 tv.

I have spent a lot of money on Star Wars products since 1977 so i think i have the right to complain about the crap Lucasfilm is pushing at us now and i will continue to complain until Lucasfilm admit what an abortion the 2004 transfer is and fix the problems with the transfer and also release the pre SE theatrical versions in the highest quality of todays standards.

You may be happy with just how crappy the 2004 set is but you are certainly in the minority, and not just on this board.

 

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kenkraly2007 said:

Look I'm sorry but I am not complaning about the 2004 dvd releases like everybuddy else is. It's been 4 years since they came out stop complaning about them and be happy with the releases and not so nagitve.

Why should other people stop talking about something they are unhappy about just because you are happy about it?

These films have been sold to and bought by fans in so many different formats over the years, the 2004 release was a hideous mistake and a rip-off for the majority of people who were buying the films again.

The original versions should have been in the set, the colour shouldn't have been vandalised and the questionable alteration of Seb Shaw to Hayden Christensen in the Endor celebrations should have been an optional extra.

As for it being a four year old release, remember that this set has been re-released unfixed and people are still buying it and discovering for the first time just how mucked up these sets are.

 

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Ok, what I found important to post here (it can be read in the first post of mverta here):

http://www.starwarslegacy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4

 

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"There is an incredible amount of grain in the transfers, which is not part of the masters they come from (I've seen them). To be honest, it's not so much grain, as it looks like dirt - the film stocks used for those movies are not that grainy. In any case, this, and a ton of other evidence, has led people like me to strongly suspect they've been deliberately grained up, or in other ways made sure to look like an inferior release next to the 2004's."

 

With the transfers he means the GOUT, just read the post linked above.

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Oldschooljedi said:

Ok, what I found important to post here (it can be read in the first post of mverta here):

http://www.starwarslegacy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4

 

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"There is an incredible amount of grain in the transfers, which is not part of the masters they come from (I've seen them). To be honest, it's not so much grain, as it looks like dirt - the film stocks used for those movies are not that grainy. In any case, this, and a ton of other evidence, has led people like me to strongly suspect they've been deliberately grained up, or in other ways made sure to look like an inferior release next to the 2004's."

 

With the transfers he means the GOUT, just read the post linked above.

Which has nothing to do with the subject of this thread...thanks.

 

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And what does this thread have to do with Fan edits or Preservation Efforts? 

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STOP COMPLANING ABOUT THE SETS PEOPLE.

 

 STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT US COMPLAINING!!!

The video and audio quality of DVD sets are bad, even the "restored" ones. If you can't see that, then you are nuts coming to this site.

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Just be happy about the dvds sets and look forward to the blu-ray releases when they eventually come out. That's all I'm saying.

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Stop Complaning about are Complaning about you Complaning about me Complaning!!!!

The truth is, They are, what they are made from, like gravity is what it does, get the idea.

Who knows what they could add in a "Blu RAY ""SET", ZOMG

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So we all need to stop complaning? well after a google search i guess you are trying to say that we're all on a diet then cuz we're a bunch of fat b**tards then and need to stop.

COMPLAN

but seriously now, you really need to do some research on the problems with the DVD's before you tell us to stop complaining. then you will see what we're all on about before you tell us all that we should be happy with it.

so, if you purchased a newly built house that's supposed to be better than the one you live in and when you move in you find that the bathroom is in your living room, the water coming out of your taps is bright blue instead of clear and the building company makes changes that there when you originally paid for it and totally ruin the property, then you should be happy because you have a roof over your head then? Sheesh, some people have no mind of their own and just believe that because something is supposed to be better then it must be because the person who sold it them says so.

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kenkraly2007 said:

Just be happy about the dvds sets and look forward to the blu-ray releases when they eventually come out. That's all I'm saying.

When adults spend their hard earned money on something, and it turns out to be something other than what it was advertised as, people usually are going to complain about it....when you start earning your own money and have bills to pay, then you'll understand...

 

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kenkraly2007 said:

Just be happy about the dvds sets and look forward to the blu-ray releases when they eventually come out. That's all I'm saying.

 

What makes you think the Blu-Ray version will be corrected in what we think is wrong with the 2004 version?

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The funny thing is i read an article from 1990 where Lucas says the color of his films aka the star wars trilogy color will remain perfect  because as he claims they were done up as 3 strip technicolor seperation master negatives.  If he thought the colors where perfect in 1990 why did he change them in 2004?

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[Lucas voice]To answer your question, skyjedi, the truth is the films always had that blue tone in 1990.  The reason no one saw it was because by that time the films had become so famous and nostalgic that everyone was looking at them through rose colored glasses which cancelled out the blue tint.[/Lucas voice]

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Did anyone buy the '04 DVDs without knowing how botched of a release it was or that it didn't include the theatrical versions? I participated in forums reading about the set before they came, so it was no surprise to me. but before that I just assumed Lucas would include the OOT with the special editions in the DVD set, and they would be treated with the best preservation efforts possible. It's just common sense.

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I think it ought to be mentioned that LucasArts is a video game company owned by George Lucas. LucasFilm is a video production company, also owned by George Lucas. They are too separate companies, both of which currently dispense equally crappy products these days.

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kenkraly2007 said:

You call the force unleased a crappy product?

 

Considering the metacritic total is around 68 right now- yep it's not very good. The story is supposed to be decent though. Definitely a rental though.

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Janskeet said:

Did anyone buy the '04 DVDs without knowing how botched of a release it was or that it didn't include the theatrical versions? I participated in forums reading about the set before they came, so it was no surprise to me. but before that I just assumed Lucas would include the OOT with the special editions in the DVD set, and they would be treated with the best preservation efforts possible. It's just common sense.

When I bought them, I wasn't really posting on any SW-related messageboards yet, so I actually didn't know about the problems. I mean- I knew they were the Special Editions, so I bought them kind of joylessly, but I didn't know about the color or audio problems...or Hayden Christainsen.

However, the minute I popped in the SW disc, I immediately noticed the strange look of the Tantive corridors. When Princess Leia was captured by the Stormtroopers to meet with Vader, I knew there was something "off" about the coloring.

kenkraly2007 said:

Just be happy about the dvds sets and look forward to the blu-ray releases when they eventually come out. That's all I'm saying.

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kenkraly2007 said:

You call the force unleased a crappy product?

 

LOL, I have yet to hear much good about it. Just about every review I have read has been along the lines of, "Well, it is okaaay, but not really that great." I grew up in the days when a game had the LucasArts/LucasGames logo on it, you bought it, because it was going to be about 90% better than anything else out there. Now the name is a pretty big joke. The later Jedi Knight games were good simply because they were make by Raven software. The Knights of the Old Republic were good because they were made by someone else. LucasArts makes crappy products, The Force Unleashed most definitely included. Can't even get the lightsaber colors from cutscene to in game to be consistant, pretty lame.

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But Lego Indiana Jones is good. Not quite as good as Lego Star Wars - The Original Trilogy, but still fun nonetheless.

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ShiftyEyes said:

The way I see it, LFL just doesn't have the manpower or the resources to give these movies the time and love they deserve. LFL is an independent company, so unlike major studios that release hundreds of titles on DVD each year and have the whole thing down pat, I get the feeling that LFL is always scrambling to get a release out. They might have one or two guys sitting standing by at a computer to do whatever change Lucas thinks up on a whim,...

I don't know... have you ever been to Lucas ranch or Skywalker Sound?  I have (twice, for audio postproduction projects).  It is an awesome facility in every respect, and very well staffed.  I don't think lack of resources or capability is the issue.  The issue is that restoration is not a part of Lucas' very successful business plan, so there is no fiscal reason to do it.  Lucas' business is making new stuff for kids.  Period.  I'm still amazed we even got the GOUT.

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