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Happy 25th Birthday, Compact Disc

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I don't like 5.1 music. I like stereo. Compact Disc audio is perfect to me. Happy 25th birthday, Compact Disc!

I don't remember what my first CD was but probably an Aerosmith or Bon Jovi album.
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Yeah! You can't put MP3s in your car...

Oh, wait, yeah you can now.. ARGH.

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Man, now I feel old.
1st album on CD would have been Weird Al's Peter and the Wolf album sometime in late 88. Of course it came in a long box. I bought a CD player a few years later but I borrowed my brothers until then. He asked for it for Christmas. Why didn't I think of that?
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Still, I feel MP3 is a step back. I also don't understand why downloadable albums are so popular, compressed shit whithout case, cover, booklet and nice shiny compact disc that will last a lifetime if handled with care.
Fez: I am so excited about Star Whores.
Hyde: Fezzy, man, it's Star Wars.
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The Beatles' Revolver some time in '88 with a Sony player that had the worst converters ever made. It practically added white noise to the end of any track with a fade out. Still, it was f'ing cool and I was only 18. Yeah, Sluggo, I feel your pain...

You can go about your business. Move along, move along.

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I believe mine was actually a bunch of them I got at the same time from those BMG offers where you'd pay a penny for 10 CDs as long as you buy 10 more at full price. That was in 94, and I got Nirvana's Nevermind and In Utero, Soundgarden's Superunkown, NIN's Downward Spiral, Greenday's Dookie, Beck's Mellow Gold... I think that was it.

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Originally posted by: Arnie.d
Still, I feel MP3 is a step back. I also don't understand why downloadable albums are so popular, compressed shit whithout case, cover, booklet and nice shiny compact disc that will last a lifetime if handled with care.


Yeah, I hear ya. When I was 12 after getting those aforementioned CDs, I would lie on the floor and just stare at the cover art, read the lyrics and just listen to the whole album over and over.

Ah! The memories are all coming back: the CD player we had at home was actually my brother's. When he left home I had to quickly transfer my newly acquired CDs to cassette tape. Fast-forward a year and my step-dad bought us a CD player and each one of us had our own interchangeable multi-disk loaders.

Oh oh oh and my first diskman cost me like 128 bucks. No skip protection. That part was annoying.

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Originally posted by: Arnie.d
Still, I feel MP3 is a step back. I also don't understand why downloadable albums are so popular, compressed shit whithout case, cover, booklet and nice shiny compact disc that will last a lifetime if handled with care.


That's why right there. I wouldn't say people don't treat their stuff well, but a flash based mp3 player is a lot easier to handle. Some people have kids and kids aren't exactly careful with things. And you can hold a lot more albums of mp3s on something like an iPod than you can carry around that many CDs. Add in that double blind tests have shown no noticeable difference between mp3 and the actual CD (not to mention the non difference on monitoring equipment) and you have all the reasons necessary.

Downloading is quicker and easier for a lot of people. No need to go to the store to buy the latest album. Just go to iTunes and download it right to your iPod. Then just plug that into your stereo or car and away you go. All you have to do to ensure your mp3 collection doesn't bite it is to regular backups of all your files.

Mind you, I don't use iTunes. All the mp3s on my iPod are self made from previously purchased CDs. I don't use iTunes due to the DRM they embed in the files (I know they sell some without DRM, but they just embed your name and address into the file now). I know it's Apple, so they get a pass from most people on the DRM. I don't care. If I'm going to pay for music, I want it free of any restrictions. I'd rather buy the CD off Amazon and just turn it into mp3s myself.
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I can very easily tell the difference between mp3 and uncompressed WAV. Especially with orchestral music. I don't know how to describe it... cycling? Wahwahwah.... It's very obvious.

I know there are different methods of encoding mp3's, but based on the mp3's I've heard, CD's beat mp3's any day.

In fact, I was in the car with a friend and he had on a Star Wars soundtrack CD. I could instantly hear it was a compressed copy. I asked him about it and sure enough, it was not the original album. He had burned mp3's.

I have to agree with Arnie; I love the physicality of a disc, not to mention the liner notes and the case and so on. I don't like downloading music.

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Originally a Compact Disc was to be 115mm/60 minutes. But Philips and Sony decided one disc should be able to contain Beethoven's 9th symphony (which is 74 min.) so playing time was strectched to 74 minutes (120mm). Also the size of the hole is based on a 10 (guilder)cent coin from Holland (one of the inventors of the CD is from Holland).
Fez: I am so excited about Star Whores.
Hyde: Fezzy, man, it's Star Wars.
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Originally posted by: Trooperman
I can very easily tell the difference between mp3 and uncompressed WAV. Especially with orchestral music. I don't know how to describe it... cycling? Wahwahwah.... It's very obvious.

I know there are different methods of encoding mp3's, but based on the mp3's I've heard, CD's beat mp3's any day.

In fact, I was in the car with a friend and he had on a Star Wars soundtrack CD. I could instantly hear it was a compressed copy. I asked him about it and sure enough, it was not the original album. He had burned mp3's.

I have to agree with Arnie; I love the physicality of a disc, not to mention the liner notes and the case and so on. I don't like downloading music.

Did you ask him what bit rate he compressed it at? Sure, if it was 128k (the default in 99% of programs) or lower, it's pretty easily noticed. At 192k or higher, it's indistinguishable. In fact, a lot of people, at one time, were encoding at 320k to lose as little quality as possible. It turns out though that 192k is the sweet spot for mp3. Lower bit rates will sound worse. Higher ones won't sound any better though.

To my ears and on my speakers (no, I don't have a $2000 speaker system and I won't buy one) the mp3s encoded at 192k are indistinguishable from the CDs. Having them as mp3s lets me take them practically anywhere. The CDs not only have to be handled more carefully, but they're harder to transport.

Besides, I honestly wouldn't want to risk scratching any of my discs, let alone my Star Wars CDs. Rip them to the computer once and then put them away.

Originally posted by: Arnie.d
Originally a Compact Disc was to be 115mm/60 minutes. But Philips and Sony decided one disc should be able to contain Beethoven's 9th symphony (which is 74 min.) so playing time was strectched to 74 minutes (120mm). Also the size of the hole is based on a 10 (guilder)cent coin from Holland (one of the inventors of the CD is from Holland).


And then that got stretched up to 80 min sometime around 1999. At least it did with CD-Rs.
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Shit. Led Zeppelin IV. That was my 1st CD to replace the album....album always sounded better.
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Got my first CD player late in the day, probably around 92 or 93. Over the following 10 years or so, I amassed a large collection of those overpriced (in the UK, anyway) silver discs.

I can't remember the last time I bought an audio CD. There's not much new music worth listening to, and the odd track I like I'll download illegally - I feel I've given the music industry enough of my cash already over the years. And anyway, if you buy an audio CD these days it'll most likely be a non-standard, copy-protected disc (or try and install some crap software on your PC).

I can very easily tell the difference between mp3 and uncompressed WAV. Especially with orchestral music. I don't know how to describe it... cycling? Wahwahwah.... It's very obvious.
I often see posts on here from people who claim they can hear the difference between audio encoded with lossy compression and the uncompressed original. Personally I'm "agnostic" - I believe that some people genuinely can hear a difference. However, I also believe in the "placebo effect" (because I've experienced it myself); this is where you perceive a loss in quality because you know what you're listening to is compressed. For this reason, unless someone can support their claim with ABX test results, I will always regard such statements as subjective opinion.

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i love some of those first released cd's.

Some of my favorites are erich Kunzel's time warp and star tracks, as well as the first released star wars cds.

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Originally posted by: Arnie.d
Still, I feel MP3 is a step back. I also don't understand why downloadable albums are so popular, compressed shit whithout case, cover, booklet and nice shiny compact disc that will last a lifetime if handled with care.

I agree, I hate downloading music. I only download if it's something that I only need for a small time. I hate the sound and no booklet. I hope online music doesn't replace CD's