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Originally posted by: tweaker
What exactly is the "black magic" process?
Laserman outlined the process in the thread HERE (October 6th).

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Thanks for the reply Moth3r. You know, the fact that the XØ project would incorporate more than one laserdisc release never even occured to me (I assume SC and DC refer to two different releases, but what the acronyms stand for is beyond me). Very interesting, incorporating the best aspects of each release. So from what I read, (at least) two different laserdiscs were transfered using the XØ player, one disc (the SC version) being rather dirty and having color issues, but having a high degree of detail and good light levels, while the other laserdisc has a clean transfer with good color, but a little soft and lacking in detail due to overblown whites and general fuzziness.

Have I got this straight? (And forgive my ignorance, but what do SC and DC stand for?)

BTW, this process reminds me of an article I read about the restoration of some old Doctor Who episodes from the 70s. The episodes were broadcast in color, but the color masters were destroyed, leaving only B&W 16mm copies. But a fan in the US had recorded the episodes in color on VHS, so when these tapes were discovered recently, the color signal from the tapes was laid over the sharper B&W 16mm transfer.

Nice work guys.
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I think it is Special Collectors Edition or Special Collection - I can't actually remember! It was only released in Japan and was hard to track down. It didn't get the DVNR THX treatment, so is noisy and has more film dirt and stuff, but a lot more detail.
The DC is for Definitive Collection or Definitive edition, the big black box set released in the US and Japan that has the smearing and ghosting issues, but looks cleaner.

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Actually, there are two Japanese releases with similar names:

The 'Special Collection' was pre-THX, and I think only individual discs; the 'Collector's Edition' was THX-enhanced, released as a box set, and is effectively the Japanese 'Faces' release (with the John Alvin lightsaber-and-some-kind-of-planet covers).
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As the SC is generally considered superior to the US pre-THX LDs, does it follow, then, that the CE is superior to the DC?

(Note to eros: see here).
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The CE is only slightly better than the DC in that it has black at IRE0 so has slightly better dynamic range so to speak.
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The CE is also (mostly?) CLV, whereas the DC and SC are both CAV.

I guess maybe CAV and CLV should be on Moth3r's list...
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Thank you Mr K, the keeper of LD knowledge.

I can only remember that stuff for up to 15 minutes or so, then it all falls back out of my head again.
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Originally posted by: Knightmessenger
I was wondering if any of you has had a look at the new dvd's. How do they compare to your X0 raw uncorrected capture of the Definitive Collection?

Laserman said that there were going to be some comparison caps between the official DVDs and the X0 pretty soon.

EDIT: The X0 site seems to be down.....?

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The X0 site is not down.

I love everybody. Lets all smoke some reefer and chill. Hug and kisses for everybody.

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This sounds like a great project!
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Zion, it has been awhile since you've updated your Apt Irrelevance site...a couple of quick questions...are you still working on your DVD menus? And are your menu's going to be used for the X0?

I hope the answer is "yes" for both....the menu's look retail, I find myself checking in from time to time just to see if there had been any updates to them......keep up the good work.

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Originally posted by: Zion
I am working on an ANH menu for the X0 right now. Let's just say it's way better than what's on my site at the moment.
Well, those ESB menus were looking pretty professional to me..it's good news that you consider the ANH menus to be even better....I have a feeling this disc is going to kick ass....

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Originally posted by: vbangle<brI have a feeling this disc is going to kick ass....


Understatement of the century, methinks...

At least it'll blow the GOUT out of the water (which ain't bad on a 4:3 27" tv, but ain't good either)

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Originally posted by: Zion
We've got some new stuff to put up on the site which hasn't gone up yet because I'm too busy moving at the moment. We have two articles and some videos ready to go though.

Zion, is there a chance that you might have time this weekend to post these? Here's hoping you say yes! Thank you in advance......

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It depends on my upload - I'm on dialup these days which makes everything incredibly frustrating.
But it is slowly uploading to Zion.....
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Zion, MeBeJedi, and Laserman: I donated a good amount of money to this proyect with the hope that something great would be created from it. All you guys have given Me and the rest of the Fans here are lame excuses. I am very disappointed in you! Please return my money to my PayPal account asap! I now wish to use that $$ in something real and truthful.
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If you can devote 24/7 of your life to an OT project without having to worry about bills, work, family or health, I envy you.
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Where were you in '77?

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So "netgurucr" means "dumbass"? Jeez, what an idiot. Hey moron, when you "donated" ( by the way you might want to look that word up in the dictionary) your huge amount of cash to the X0 Project, did it ever occurr to you that it might take awhile? Just because you gave them a donation doesn't mean they become your bitches.....you have made a fool of yourself on this board now, congratulations.

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Geez, with this looking so good I'll have to change my LD rip preservation discs again!
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Originally posted by: netgurucr
Zion, MeBeJedi, and Laserman: I donated a good amount of money to this proyect with the hope that something great would be created from it. All you guys have given Me and the rest of the Fans here are lame excuses. I am very disappointed in you! Please return my money to my PayPal account asap! I now wish to use that $$ in something real and truthful.


Worst. Post. Ever.

Great work takes TIME. I am disappointed in you. No stars for effort, but you can have a consolation prize. Your No_prize will be in the mail shortly.