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Originally posted by: boris
Personally, I think you should be flaming people who write "your" in place of "you're".
Or "then" in place of "than"

However, in practice you must take into account the “fuckwit factor”. Just talk to Darth Mallwalker…
-Moth3r

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Wrong, come watch a fantastic B&W image on my Mitsubishi Black Diamond some time.

How old is it?

Wrong again. My old panasonic video wouldn't play NTSC tapes.

Is it older then 8 years old?

I don't know where you're shopping buddy, but I can't find a single store that sells NTSC region 1 DVDs.

It's true you see more R4 then anything else... but there's always some about which are usually over-priced. While you're at it pick up an R4 copy of Stars Of Star Wars... I'll think you'll find it's in NTSC.

Wrong again bud, ever used a PS2. Four strikes dude, you're outta there.

The PS2 isn't a real DVD player... in fact it can't even output true NTSC. It's still illegal for a retailer to sell a DVD player which isn't region-free.

PS: Sony doesn't even count, as I have a life-time boycott on all their products for the foreseeable future. I don't know how they get away with region-coding the PS2 for games and movies, but it is illegal.
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Ha ha fuckin har. You're just too much man.

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Moth3r:
I don't know for sure, but I suspect that CRT TVs sold in PAL countries have shadow masks/phosphors optimized for ~576 scanlines.

I have to say I doubt this. I don't think a CRT could ever be "calibrated" in that way since the tube is affected by the Earth's magnetic field. If it was in any way "optimized" everyone would get a sub-optimal picture when they got the set home (especially me - my room is near a small electricty substation and my picture is sheared by a few degrees).

I've quite often seen complaints levelled at NTSC - from PAL owners - about scanlines appearing too widely spaced. But I'm prepared to be proven wrong on this one.

That's just because there are less lines of electrons being fired, not because PAL TVs have too many lines of phosphor dots.

Boris:
and it's perfectly acceptable to use [apostrophes] when making plural abbreviations


I was thinking more of:

Both DVD's contain the same detail

American's hate PAL.

American's and other NTSC-people, but mostly American's still think their system is better.

Half the DVD's I own are NTSC, and a few DVD's that are officially released


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Boris must work as a greengrocer.

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Originally posted by: Moth3r
Boris must work as a greengrocer.

a greengrocer who is morphing into a troll as we speak....

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Originally posted by: Darth Mallwalker
Originally posted by: boris
Personally, I think you should be flaming people who write "your" in place of "you're".
Or "then" in place of "than"


Or "it's" in place of "its". (How do you know if you've got it right? "It's" can ONLY be used to replace "it is". Otherwise, the word you're looking for is "its".)
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thanks for the english lesson
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Originally posted by: Darth Mallwalker
Originally posted by: boris
Personally, I think you should be flaming people who write "your" in place of "you're". Or "then" in place of "than"
Originally posted by: boris
Is it older then 8 years old?
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It's true you see more R4 then anything else...
You can lead a horse to water . . .
but you can't make it learn it's English lesson !

I'll stop now.

However, in practice you must take into account the “fuckwit factor”. Just talk to Darth Mallwalker…
-Moth3r

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Originally posted by: Darth Mallwalker
but you can't make it learn it's English lesson


It's "its", not "it's"!

That just might be my number one pet peeve at the moment, just edging out some of boris' posts...

I'll stop now, too.

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Originally posted by: Darth Editous
Moth3r:
I don't know for sure, but I suspect that CRT TVs sold in PAL countries have shadow masks/phosphors optimized for ~576 scanlines.


I have to say I doubt this. I don't think a CRT could ever be "calibrated" in that way since the tube is affected by the Earth's magnetic field. If it was in any way "optimized" everyone would get a sub-optimal picture when they got the set home (especially me - my room is near a small electricty substation and my picture is sheared by a few degrees).

DE


They certainly are affected by the earth's magnetic field. We had to recalibrate all the magnetics in a bunch of broadcast monitors we brought in from the US.
A CRT from the Northern hemisphere is setup for the earth's magnetic field in that hemisphere, take it south and you get all sorts of colour problems. Same is true in reverse. You don't wanna import CRTs across the equator unless you know how to adjust them at the other end.

Back on topic the scaling on the PAL versions doesn't appear to be done very well, and some form of vblur has also been applied by the look of it. That is why I sent my PAL version back and got the NTSC version, I'd rather do any upscaling myself and get it as right as possible.