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The biggest difference I heard, of course, was Aunt Beru's voice- it sounds like it might be the same actress, only with alternate vocal takes. I actually prefer the takes on the stereo prints. On the mono version, her reading of the lines doesn't sound as convincing.
I also noticed that the voices sound sped-up. Was this because it originated from a PAL TV broadcast?
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Can somebody put up a torrent of those mp3s, or put 'em up on a filesharing site again?
I know the mono mix is on the Starkiller 1977 bootleg, but that's not being seeded ....
A friend of mine claims that originally, later in the movie after Luke says, "I'm gonna use the Force ..." somebody back at the base says, "You're gonna use the *what*?!" and that line was cut.
I say 'I don't think so'
Also, is the mono mix featured on the EditDroid DVD, or any others?
I've searched around but get all confused, with the different versions. Can someone set me straight definitively?
Very many thanks, indeed.
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Originally posted by: Bahax
Can somebody put up a torrent of those mp3s, or put 'em up on a filesharing site again?
I know the mono mix is on the Starkiller 1977 bootleg, but that's not being seeded ....
A friend of mine claims that originally, later in the movie after Luke says, "I'm gonna use the Force ..." somebody back at the base says, "You're gonna use the *what*?!" and that line was cut.
I say 'I don't think so'
Also, is the mono mix featured on the EditDroid DVD, or any others?
I've searched around but get all confused, with the different versions. Can someone set me straight definitively?
Very many thanks, indeed.
Can somebody put up a torrent of those mp3s, or put 'em up on a filesharing site again?
I know the mono mix is on the Starkiller 1977 bootleg, but that's not being seeded ....
A friend of mine claims that originally, later in the movie after Luke says, "I'm gonna use the Force ..." somebody back at the base says, "You're gonna use the *what*?!" and that line was cut.
I say 'I don't think so'
Also, is the mono mix featured on the EditDroid DVD, or any others?
I've searched around but get all confused, with the different versions. Can someone set me straight definitively?
Very many thanks, indeed.
Yeah, there is an EditDroid DVD with the mono mix but the picture doesn't look as good as the new version and I don't think it's torrented.
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Originally posted by: Mielr
I also noticed that the voices sound sped-up. Was this because it originated from a PAL TV broadcast? Yes. There was an AC3 version I put up that ran at the correct speed (it synched up with Doctor M's NTSC DVD). I can re-upload if there's any interest.
Originally posted by: Bahax
Also, is the mono mix featured on the EditDroid DVD, or any others?
Editdroid version 1 and The Starkiller bootleg. Also the mono mix is available seperately in PAL and NTSC speeds for patching the Moth3r and Doctor M DVDs. I also noticed that the voices sound sped-up. Was this because it originated from a PAL TV broadcast? Yes. There was an AC3 version I put up that ran at the correct speed (it synched up with Doctor M's NTSC DVD). I can re-upload if there's any interest.
Originally posted by: Bahax
A friend of mine claims that originally, later in the movie after Luke says, "I'm gonna use the Force ..."
The line is "Nothing. I'm alright.", and there is no response from base. Unless you're thinking of something different?A friend of mine claims that originally, later in the movie after Luke says, "I'm gonna use the Force ..."
Originally posted by: Bahax
Also, is the mono mix featured on the EditDroid DVD, or any others?
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The Star Wars (theatrical version) "bonus disc" features the 1993 Definitive Collection sound mix as the basis for the English audio track. The only difference between the DVD and the DC laserdisc is the original opening crawl being slapped onto the beginning of the movie (which also allows the musical "crash" to be properly in sync with the reveal of Tatooine, as it was originally, before the "ANH" subtitle was added in 1981).
The disc's optional Spanish and French language tracks (which were probably dug out of the Lucasfilm Archives for this Limited Edition release), however, are based on the rarely-heard MONO sound mix from 1977!!!!
How do I know?
*Threepio says the famous tractor beam lines (in French/Spanish), lines that do not appear in the Defintive Collection mix.
*Luke (albeit speaking in French/Spanish) says, "Blast it, Wedge, where are you?" (as he does in the mono mix), as opposed to, "Blast it, Biggs, where are you?" as he does in all other versions of the movie.
* The Falcon's chessboard creatures make some different sounds than all other versions of the movie.
* The additional Falcon cockpit sounds (and the whizzing asteroid sounds heard as the ship comes out of hyperspace) that were originally exclusive to the mono mix (and were added back in for the 1997 SE) can be heard on the Spanish and French tracks.
On the 2004 SE DVD, the Spanish audio track is completely new, and uses the 2004 SE mix as its basis.
However, the French audio track is the same one that appears on the "bonus disc" (This version is still based on the original mono mix, with the same French-speaking voice actors as can be heard on the "bonus disc". In this version, French-speaking Luke still says, "Blast it, Wedge, where are you?", while on the new Spanish track, he says, "Blast it, Biggs, where are you?", as in the 2004 SE.), but with the SE material spliced in at the appropriate spots!!!! It seems they even used different voice actors for the added scenes and dialogue (such as Han's voice in the restored Jabba scene)!
But, aside from the SE additions, the original sounds for the Vader/Kenobi duel can still be heard on the French track, as well as the alternate Falcon chessboard creature sounds from the mono mix!
For Empire, the English audio track on the bonus disc is the same as the Definitive Collection sound mix. However, the French and Spanish audio tracks feature a different sound mix than the 1993 Definitive Collection, a mix which appears to be based on the original 70 mm sound mix from the film's initial theatrical release!
This alternate mix features some additional sounds that were not heard on the 35mm and subsequent home video versions, but which were later reincorporated into the 1997 and 2004 mixes. Such sounds include additional R2-D2 beeps when Yoda rummages through Luke's supplies, and additional TIE fighter engine sounds in the establishing shot of Darth Vader's Star Destroyer (after Luke Skywalker beheads the illusory Vader on Dagobah).
On the 2004 Empire DVD, the Spanish audio track is completely new (as with ANh and ROTJ), and uses the 2004 SE mix as its basis.
However, the French audio track is the same one that appears on the "bonus disc" (based on the original 70 mm mix, with the same French-speaking voice actors), but with the SE material spliced in at the appropriate spots. For example, Luke does not say, "Thanks, Threepio." in the Hoth medical center in the French version (but he does in the new Spanish track).
Finally, for the Jedi 2004 SE, the Spanish audio track is completely new (As with ANH and ESB), and uses the 2004 SE mix as its basis. However, the French audio track is the same as the one on the "bonus disc", albeit with new SE material spliced in.
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Originally posted by: Gregatron
I did some more investigation into the sound mixes on the recently-released Limited Edition DVDs (2004 and GOUT). Here's what I came up with.
The Star Wars (theatrical version) "bonus disc" features the 1993 Definitive Collection sound mix as the basis for the English audio track. The only difference between the DVD and the DC laserdisc is the original opening crawl being slapped onto the beginning of the movie (which also allows the musical "crash" to be properly in sync with the reveal of Tatooine, as it was originally, before the "ANH" subtitle was added in 1981).
The disc's optional Spanish and French language tracks (which were probably dug out of the Lucasfilm Archives for this Limited Edition release), however, are based on the rarely-heard MONO sound mix from 1977!!!!
How do I know?
*Threepio says the famous tractor beam lines (in French/Spanish), lines that do not appear in the Defintive Collection mix.
*Luke (albeit speaking in French/Spanish) says, "Blast it, Wedge, where are you?" (as he does in the mono mix), as opposed to, "Blast it, Biggs, where are you?" as he does in all other versions of the movie.
* The Falcon's chessboard creatures make some different sounds than all other versions of the movie.
* The additional Falcon cockpit sounds (and the whizzing asteroid sounds heard as the ship comes out of hyperspace) that were originally exclusive to the mono mix (and were added back in for the 1997 SE) can be heard on the Spanish and French tracks.
On the 2004 SE DVD, the Spanish audio track is completely new, and uses the 2004 SE mix as its basis.
However, the French audio track is the same one that appears on the "bonus disc" (This version is still based on the original mono mix, with the same French-speaking voice actors as can be heard on the "bonus disc". In this version, French-speaking Luke still says, "Blast it, Wedge, where are you?", while on the new Spanish track, he says, "Blast it, Biggs, where are you?", as in the 2004 SE.), but with the SE material spliced in at the appropriate spots!!!! It seems they even used different voice actors for the added scenes and dialogue (such as Han's voice in the restored Jabba scene)!
But, aside from the SE additions, the original sounds for the Vader/Kenobi duel can still be heard on the French track, as well as the alternate Falcon chessboard creature sounds from the mono mix!
For Empire, the English audio track on the bonus disc is the same as the Definitive Collection sound mix. However, the French and Spanish audio tracks feature a different sound mix than the 1993 Definitive Collection, a mix which appears to be based on the original 70 mm sound mix from the film's initial theatrical release!
This alternate mix features some additional sounds that were not heard on the 35mm and subsequent home video versions, but which were later reincorporated into the 1997 and 2004 mixes. Such sounds include additional R2-D2 beeps when Yoda rummages through Luke's supplies, and additional TIE fighter engine sounds in the establishing shot of Darth Vader's Star Destroyer (after Luke Skywalker beheads the illusory Vader on Dagobah).
On the 2004 Empire DVD, the Spanish audio track is completely new (as with ANh and ROTJ), and uses the 2004 SE mix as its basis.
However, the French audio track is the same one that appears on the "bonus disc" (based on the original 70 mm mix, with the same French-speaking voice actors), but with the SE material spliced in at the appropriate spots. For example, Luke does not say, "Thanks, Threepio." in the Hoth medical center in the French version (but he does in the new Spanish track).
Finally, for the Jedi 2004 SE, the Spanish audio track is completely new (As with ANH and ESB), and uses the 2004 SE mix as its basis. However, the French audio track is the same as the one on the "bonus disc", albeit with new SE material spliced in.
I did some more investigation into the sound mixes on the recently-released Limited Edition DVDs (2004 and GOUT). Here's what I came up with.
The Star Wars (theatrical version) "bonus disc" features the 1993 Definitive Collection sound mix as the basis for the English audio track. The only difference between the DVD and the DC laserdisc is the original opening crawl being slapped onto the beginning of the movie (which also allows the musical "crash" to be properly in sync with the reveal of Tatooine, as it was originally, before the "ANH" subtitle was added in 1981).
The disc's optional Spanish and French language tracks (which were probably dug out of the Lucasfilm Archives for this Limited Edition release), however, are based on the rarely-heard MONO sound mix from 1977!!!!
How do I know?
*Threepio says the famous tractor beam lines (in French/Spanish), lines that do not appear in the Defintive Collection mix.
*Luke (albeit speaking in French/Spanish) says, "Blast it, Wedge, where are you?" (as he does in the mono mix), as opposed to, "Blast it, Biggs, where are you?" as he does in all other versions of the movie.
* The Falcon's chessboard creatures make some different sounds than all other versions of the movie.
* The additional Falcon cockpit sounds (and the whizzing asteroid sounds heard as the ship comes out of hyperspace) that were originally exclusive to the mono mix (and were added back in for the 1997 SE) can be heard on the Spanish and French tracks.
On the 2004 SE DVD, the Spanish audio track is completely new, and uses the 2004 SE mix as its basis.
However, the French audio track is the same one that appears on the "bonus disc" (This version is still based on the original mono mix, with the same French-speaking voice actors as can be heard on the "bonus disc". In this version, French-speaking Luke still says, "Blast it, Wedge, where are you?", while on the new Spanish track, he says, "Blast it, Biggs, where are you?", as in the 2004 SE.), but with the SE material spliced in at the appropriate spots!!!! It seems they even used different voice actors for the added scenes and dialogue (such as Han's voice in the restored Jabba scene)!
But, aside from the SE additions, the original sounds for the Vader/Kenobi duel can still be heard on the French track, as well as the alternate Falcon chessboard creature sounds from the mono mix!
For Empire, the English audio track on the bonus disc is the same as the Definitive Collection sound mix. However, the French and Spanish audio tracks feature a different sound mix than the 1993 Definitive Collection, a mix which appears to be based on the original 70 mm sound mix from the film's initial theatrical release!
This alternate mix features some additional sounds that were not heard on the 35mm and subsequent home video versions, but which were later reincorporated into the 1997 and 2004 mixes. Such sounds include additional R2-D2 beeps when Yoda rummages through Luke's supplies, and additional TIE fighter engine sounds in the establishing shot of Darth Vader's Star Destroyer (after Luke Skywalker beheads the illusory Vader on Dagobah).
On the 2004 Empire DVD, the Spanish audio track is completely new (as with ANh and ROTJ), and uses the 2004 SE mix as its basis.
However, the French audio track is the same one that appears on the "bonus disc" (based on the original 70 mm mix, with the same French-speaking voice actors), but with the SE material spliced in at the appropriate spots. For example, Luke does not say, "Thanks, Threepio." in the Hoth medical center in the French version (but he does in the new Spanish track).
Finally, for the Jedi 2004 SE, the Spanish audio track is completely new (As with ANH and ESB), and uses the 2004 SE mix as its basis. However, the French audio track is the same as the one on the "bonus disc", albeit with new SE material spliced in.
Really? That's horrible. They're basically saying they can give us decent DVD's but just don't want to.
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Originally posted by: Moth3r
There was an AC3 version I put up that ran at the correct speed (it synched up with Doctor M's NTSC DVD). I can re-upload if there's any interest.
There was an AC3 version I put up that ran at the correct speed (it synched up with Doctor M's NTSC DVD). I can re-upload if there's any interest.
Yes, please! Very interested.
Thanks.
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Originally posted by: Gregatron
The disc's optional Spanish and French language tracks ... are based on the rarely-heard MONO sound mix from 1977!!!!
The disc's optional Spanish and French language tracks ... are based on the rarely-heard MONO sound mix from 1977!!!!
Are the Spanish and French tracks mono, or just based on ...?
If so, maybe a high-quality reconstruction might be possible of the original Mono track?
Some fancy splicin' ...
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Originally posted by: Gregatron
The disc's optional Spanish and French language tracks (which were probably dug out of the Lucasfilm Archives for this Limited Edition release), however, are based on the rarely-heard MONO sound mix from 1977!!!!
Gregatron, is that the Region 1 DVD you're talking about ?The disc's optional Spanish and French language tracks (which were probably dug out of the Lucasfilm Archives for this Limited Edition release), however, are based on the rarely-heard MONO sound mix from 1977!!!!
If so, that'll be much easier for Belbucus to use as an EQ reference rather than trying to obtain a copy of the German laserdisc track which he asked about in this thread.
However, in practice you must take into account the “fuckwit factor”. Just talk to Darth Mallwalker…
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Originally posted by: ReverendBeastly
I'd love if you could repost the patch AC3 for the Dr. M DVD. Originally posted by: Bahax
Yes, please! Very interested.
Here you go:I'd love if you could repost the patch AC3 for the Dr. M DVD. Originally posted by: Bahax
Yes, please! Very interested.
http://rapidshare.de/files/33658160/mono_ntsc.ac3.html
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From usenet last November it was 87,334,656 bytes.
From filefactory in May it was still 87,334,656.
Now it's 87,334,658
However, in practice you must take into account the “fuckwit factor”. Just talk to Darth Mallwalker…
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CRC32 = cc8574d4
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Twice today, on two different computers, rapidshare has given me 87,334,658 bytes.
The first 87,334,656 match the checksum. I wonder why rapidshare is appending two extra bytes (0x09 & 0x0A) to the end ?
However, in practice you must take into account the “fuckwit factor”. Just talk to Darth Mallwalker…
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Thanks, Moth3r.
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If this will be of any use to anybody, I'll dig it out and see if i can get it on to dvd-r.
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Originally posted by: Darth Mallwalker
If so, that'll be much easier for Belbucus to use as an EQ reference rather than trying to obtain a copy of the German laserdisc track which he asked about in this thread.
Originally posted by: Gregatron
The disc's optional Spanish and French language tracks (which were probably dug out of the Lucasfilm Archives for this Limited Edition release), however, are based on the rarely-heard MONO sound mix from 1977!!!!
Gregatron, is that the Region 1 DVD you're talking about ?The disc's optional Spanish and French language tracks (which were probably dug out of the Lucasfilm Archives for this Limited Edition release), however, are based on the rarely-heard MONO sound mix from 1977!!!!
If so, that'll be much easier for Belbucus to use as an EQ reference rather than trying to obtain a copy of the German laserdisc track which he asked about in this thread.
Yes, I'm referring to the Region 1 "bonus discs". Star Wars uses the mono mix for the Spanish and French audio tracks (albeit in 2.0 surround).
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Originally posted by: Moth3r
http://rapidshare.de/files/33658160/mono_ntsc.ac3.html
Originally posted by: ReverendBeastly
I'd love if you could repost the patch AC3 for the Dr. M DVD. Originally posted by: Bahax
Yes, please! Very interested.
Here you go:I'd love if you could repost the patch AC3 for the Dr. M DVD. Originally posted by: Bahax
Yes, please! Very interested.
http://rapidshare.de/files/33658160/mono_ntsc.ac3.html
Thanks! I've been waiting for this for a while. It should hold me over for the restored mono mix.
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