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That wasn't added to make the OUT look like crapt. That was a side affect of the compositing done on those shots in 1980, and was fixed for the 2004 DVD release.


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I saw that too- I never noticed it before either. When you look at still-frames like that, there are going to be a lot of flaws you see that just aren't noticeable when the image is moving.

Sometimes, I think it's just better not to look at those at all.

There's a whole thread about the changes, BTW here.

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It's only visible for like one frame at a time. I think it's better described as an error in compositing than a side effect of compositing.
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Did they really make a new costume and film a guy in it for the new wampa shots in '97? The horrible blue cast really shows again. Honestly, has there been a worse film "restoration" than the 2004 dvd's? (Even if you disregard special edition changes)

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Ditto that! The coloring of the SE discs is HORRENDOUS. They look like comic books with the colors so over saturated. Why, why, why, why why couldn't they at least left the films at least looking the way they did originally? Why screw with the color in every scene and even have different cuts in the same scene with totally different casts to them? UGHHH!
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No fuckin' quality control....they had to be out for fall winter 2004. Which was how many months notice for Lowrey? 3?.....not good...too rushed and try to make them more looking on level of films made these days....

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WOW, the Offical OOT is soooo bitchen....I think I will get these after all.....I just have to have my own copy of the blob.....Yee Haa!

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I was hoping this would have been about the movie The Blob. Or maybe the Son of the Blob. The compositing on those shots is pretty scary on its own.
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It looks more like something was spilled on the film more than anything else. If there were any compositing problems in those shots there would be anomalies around the tauntaun or the Rebel transport, as everything else in the shot is "real". And I think we're all familar with what garbage mattes look like by now.
Given the number of bugs that crept in when the video masters for the DC boxset were made, I can believe somebody was drinking in the telecine room and had a little accident!
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Hmm, would those blobs really have been that visible while watching the original film in a movie theater in 1980? Well, even if they were, improving small technical things like that is still in line with what I would call a theatrical version.

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Originally posted by: Knightmessenger
Did they really make a new costume and film a guy in it for the new wampa shots in '97?


They indeed filmed an actor (an awfully bad actor, imho) in a Wampa suit for the special edition. See the official site.

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Originally posted by: SilverWook
It looks more like something was spilled on the film more than anything else. If there were any compositing problems in those shots there would be anomalies around the tauntaun or the Rebel transport, as everything else in the shot is "real". And I think we're all familar with what garbage mattes look like by now.
Given the number of bugs that crept in when the video masters for the DC boxset were made, I can believe somebody was drinking in the telecine room and had a little accident!


Nothing was spilled on the film. That shot was made from multiple elements. You had the horizon which was a seperate element and the they comped it into the shot of Luke. When they did that it resulted into the blob.


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Nothing was spilled on the film. That shot was made from multiple elements. You had the horizon which was a seperate element and the they comped it into the shot of Luke. When they did that it resulted into the blob.


But that blob's not present on every frame of those scenes, is it? Are those the first frames of those two shots? If so, maybe it's something to do with the way they film was originally spliced (there were all kinds of jumps and scrapes and rubbish on first or last frames that I cleaned out of my LD transfer, which weren't there when I got the 2004 DVDs to use as source).

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Originally posted by: Darth Editous
Nothing was spilled on the film. That shot was made from multiple elements. You had the horizon which was a seperate element and the they comped it into the shot of Luke. When they did that it resulted into the blob.


But that blob's not present on every frame of those scenes, is it? Are those the first frames of those two shots? If so, maybe it's something to do with the way they film was originally spliced (there were all kinds of jumps and scrapes and rubbish on first or last frames that I cleaned out of my LD transfer, which weren't there when I got the 2004 DVDs to use as source).

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I am not sure whether it is present in every frame, and you may be right about the "blob" being a side effect of splicing.


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One thing you notice when you look at the update information on the Star Wars site is that the color white does not exist in the OT anymore, everything ether has a mauve or blue tint to it. It would be almost comical if it won’t so sad. I mean these are the most popular movies in history and they can't even get the colors right. How about how salmon tinted all the explosions are in ANH? All the snow is blue in ESB and then when you get to the space slugs teeth they are pink? What the hell. You got the Disney animator going back to the original cells to get the color right and Lucas for all his digital guiros can't even get the color right, and I don't believe this is a creative decision maybe some of it but some of it is just crap, plain and simple! Add that to the fact that they screwed up the soundtrack, and the fact that people here have done much better job fixing things on there own free time and it is a crime. Anyway there is my rant.
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The blob appears in many different guises!

Here is another slight variation of the blobs form:

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/7084/esbblobrp2.jpg
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Originally posted by: bomma
One thing you notice when you look at the update information on the Star Wars site is that the color white does not exist in the OT anymore, everything ether has a mauve or blue tint to it. It would be almost comical if it won’t so sad. I mean these are the most popular movies in history and they can't even get the colors right. How about how salmon tinted all the explosions are in ANH? All the snow is blue in ESB and then when you get to the space slugs teeth they are pink? What the hell. You got the Disney animator going back to the original cells to get the color right and Lucas for all his digital guiros can't even get the color right, and I don't believe this is a creative decision maybe some of it but some of it is just crap, plain and simple! Add that to the fact that they screwed up the soundtrack, and the fact that people here have done much better job fixing things on there own free time and it is a crime. Anyway there is my rant.


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Last time this came up it was suggested that the blob is either splicing glue, snot or semen.

I think I'll go with splicing glue.

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Originally posted by: bomma
One thing you notice when you look at the update information on the Star Wars site is that the color white does not exist in the OT anymore, everything ether has a mauve or blue tint to it. It would be almost comical if it won’t so sad. I mean these are the most popular movies in history and they can't even get the colors right. How about how salmon tinted all the explosions are in ANH? All the snow is blue in ESB and then when you get to the space slugs teeth they are pink? What the hell. You got the Disney animator going back to the original cells to get the color right and Lucas for all his digital guiros can't even get the color right, and I don't believe this is a creative decision maybe some of it but some of it is just crap, plain and simple! Add that to the fact that they screwed up the soundtrack, and the fact that people here have done much better job fixing things on there own free time and it is a crime. Anyway there is my rant.


Sad, but true! Whoever did the '04 colour work made a right mess!

It looks as if frames were batch adjusted to some sort of automatic generic setting, and not on an individual case by case, or indeed frame by frame basis.

Definitely a rush job, just to get the release out there!

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Originally posted by: Moth3r
Last time this came up it was suggested that the blob is either splicing glue, snot or semen.

I think I'll go with splicing glue.


I'm so glad you went for that option!

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"But that blob's not present on every frame of those scenes, is it? Are those the first frames of those two shots? If so, maybe it's something to do with the way they film was originally spliced (there were all kinds of jumps and scrapes and rubbish on first or last frames that I cleaned out of my LD transfer, which weren't there when I got the 2004 DVDs to use as source)."

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/7084/esbblobrp2.jpg

"I think I'll go with splicing glue."

That's precisely what it is, and it only occurs between certain scene changes (some are worse than others.) Believe me, I know. What do you think I've been removing from individual frames for the X0 Project?

They are mainly yellow in ANH, but I've not gone through ESB at such detail. Apparently, they used a better (read: clearer) glue for some shots, but the above shot looks like it would in ANH.

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Does the star wars website really say the color white no longer exists in the ot anymore? Then what color are the stormtroopers supposed to be? Did it also say the Millenium Falcon's magnetic shielding devices cause interference with the crystals that give a lightsaber its color?

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