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The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released) — Page 46

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Originally posted by: ocpmovie
A classic Richard Williams studio commercial by Dick and Eric Goldberg. Circa 1980 I think. Thanks to Cartoonbrew and Poptique.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0Q8p4cKu3Y

The animation is great, the voice is HORRIBLE.
I remember that ad!
(I don't remember the voice being that bad, though.)

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Wow, very excited to hear about the Mark II cut. It sounds like you're very proud of it, and that is what is important. In a project like this, its hard to be satisfied, as you always hope for better sources and better fixes for sources' deficiencies. And yet, you're satisfied, and proud. That's very, very cool. Congratulations.
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A pretty high number of people have expressed interest in the Recobbled Cut Mark II "when it's done."


Guys, it's done. It was done when I announced it.



And now it's on disc ... I'm burning off the first copy now. I'm actually all out of printable DVDs at the moment so I have to order some ... with all that money I don't have.


But yeah, the disc is done, and beautiful. As requested, I have added the "Allied Filmmakers" trailer to the disc .... I do worry about disc space as the 6gig disc has to be compressed to 4.4 for the single layer, but it'll be fine I'm sure.

I've also added a lot more images to the already-bursting image galleries ... some really amazing stuff.

Previously there were 7 image galleries ... 6 and a half really, with 100 images in each one.

Now there are 9 galleries, all full. I've added almost 300 new images.


Most of this is taken up by a lot of very rare storyboards from "scene 36" of the Nasruddin film, the scene where Nasruddin meets Chief Boozdil and the Brigands. It bears some similarities to the final film, but honestly not much. It's very different and you're going to enjoy having a look at it.

These storyboards clearly predate the 1972 Clapperboard documentary, where Dick shows some Nasruddin/Brigands storyboards which are much more similar to the final film. These have an earlier drawing style and might date from the late 60s. Probably by Dick or Corny Cole. The storyboards were scanned by Matt Jones of Uli Meyer Animation. They're labelled as "Tim's Boards," so maybe they belonged to Tim Watts - I'll have to ask Matt.



The "special features" and "witch" menus on the DVD have been redone to reflect the new material.

I reencoded the entire film for this release, and the soundtrack. Weirdly, even with the huge amount of backups I have for this disc (just to be sure), I couldn't find a copy of the first half of the film or the commentary that wasn't corrupted, so I had to reencode the whole thing from scratch - good thing I'd saved my master files for the commentary etc. This took longer than it should have.


In addition to all the revised and new material in the second half of the film (Zigzag meeting One Eye, witch scene, war machine, ending), there are also two replaced shots in the first part of the film ... King Nod peeking out of the maiden's tent and the last shot of the Thief escaping from Yumyum's bathing room.

I've encoded the film, again, in both single and dual layer versions.

I've checked the single layer version and it looks good, nothing wrong with it. I don't know if people here know how to spot the telltale signs of an overly shrunk DVD ... mainly this kind of odd flicker as the picture is softer than goes sharp for a frame and gets soft again then sharp and so on ... which is the shrinking process finding keyframes. Anyway, there's no noticeable flicker like that, so we're all good - single layer version it is.


Enjoy, guys!
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This is great, a true dream come true.. And thanks for all the pionters you gave me in the past.

peace

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Damn! I'm at 97% on the old disc... Oh well. Glad to hear you were able to get your hands on a better quality source. Is there any need for me to finish d/l'ing this old disc? I assume everything on it is going to be on the new one? I haven't seen it yet, and will probably wait for the better quality one anyway...

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Hi everyone, thought I'd better get an account here to avoid pestering ocpmovie with a load of questions by email, which I have been (a little)...

Some of my thoughts have already been quoted by him (my name's Mike Torr), just wanted to say hi, and how pleased I am that he's managed to do yet another, even BETTER, version of this magical movie.
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Originally posted by: ocpmovie

In addition to all the revised and new material in the second half of the film (Zigzag meeting One Eye, witch scene, war machine, ending), there are also two replaced shots in the first part of the film ... King Nod peeking out of the maiden's tent and the last shot of the Thief escaping from Yumyum's bathing room.


Was the scene with King Nod peeking out of the maiden's tent taken from the Allied Filmmakers trailer, or was that footage also present in the Calvert widescreen VHS?
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Allied filmmakers trailer.





Taolar - if you're at 97%, finish downloading the old disc and enjoy! It's a good disc.
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Originally posted by: ocpmovie

Taolar - if you're at 97%, finish downloading the old disc and enjoy! It's a good disc.


Amen to that, grabbed it over the weekend and thoroughly enjoyed it, from start to finish.

Never saw the bastardised 90's version - hugely glad I didn't waste my time on that - love Vincent Price's voicework.

Many thanks for all the hard work you must have put into this GG, it's a fantastically accomplished effort.

-mm
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Originally posted by: meedermow
Originally posted by: ocpmovie

Taolar - if you're at 97%, finish downloading the old disc and enjoy! It's a good disc.


Amen to that, grabbed it over the weekend


Please seed then! There are currently no seeders...

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Originally posted by: Taolar
Originally posted by: meedermow
Originally posted by: ocpmovie

Taolar - if you're at 97%, finish downloading the old disc and enjoy! It's a good disc.


Amen to that, grabbed it over the weekend


Please seed then! There are currently no seeders...


Well assuming you're grabbing this off Demonoid, you might want to take it up with any of the 30 people currently seeding with me...

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/5854/28mu1.jpg
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For god's sake, change the name back to just the Recobbled Cut. "Deprecated Mark I?"

Why don't you just write "piece of crap" there while you're at it ....


Jesus ...




Wait a sec ... 3560 downloads? Completed?

That's a hell of a lot of people.

Especially considering that's a full 4.4 GB download which takes a while.
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Originally posted by: ocpmovie
For god's sake, change the name back to just the Recobbled Cut. "Deprecated Mark I?"

Why don't you just write "piece of crap" there while you're at it ....


Jesus ...

Indeed, I know what you mean - I had second thoughts d/ling it initially with such a title. Totally clear what is meant when you read the NFO in the torrent, but would you click on the link with it thus titled ?



Wait a sec ... 3560 downloads? Completed?

That's a hell of a lot of people.

Especially considering that's a full 4.4 GB download which takes a while.


Well - obviously people are, title or not - the quality wins out
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Originally posted by: ocpmovie

Wait a sec ... 3560 downloads? Completed?

That's a hell of a lot of people.


I like the sudden switch from irritation to irritation and elation.

But yeah, change the title back, and remove the bit about deleting the torrent. People are happily seeding and downloading it, so just chill...
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To put this into perspective, I did Star Wars Deleted Magic a year ago which was a huge hit and is still being downloaded after a year .... Checking myspleen shows it's been downloaded 4,222 times.

The Thief is rivaling that already, and it's just been two months. Madness.



As little known and little seen as my own original films are, it's good to know that I've got good taste in fan DVDs enough to deliver a product that a large mass audience really wants to see and will enjoy.
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Sorry! Guess I should have put a little more thought there...

All mention of the current torrent being 'deprecated' has been excised from Demonoid.
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Hey OCPMOVIE I don't mean to draw any attention away from the movie that this thread is about but it would be great to hear about your original movies, if you don't want to divert this thread any further then you can email me at DarthBalls1138@gmail.com or you can always start a new thread, I'm sure I'm not the only one who would like to hear about them!
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The Orange Cow sampler disc has some very amusing bits, from what I remember. I should watch more of that sometime soon.

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Thanks guys.

In my desperate quest for attention I actually give DVDs of my original films away with Star Wars or Thief DVDs by request. Usually my dramatic feature Gods of Los Angeles or the short films sampler disc. Over the years I've written/directed seven features and over thirty shorts. I spent 3 years on Gods of Los Angeles and am releasing a disc of deleted scenes for it this week ... about 90 minutes worth. I am currently working on two animated pilots, Dance With Grandpa and The Chosen Ones.

You can get more info at orangecow.org, and the forum at ffrevolution.com.
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You've done great work with the Recobbled project.
I'm sure lots of folks have gotten it from demonoid and enjoyed it.
But I think you should take those "completed" statistics with a grain of salt.

I recently upped Doctor M's "Reinventing The Wheel" trilogy @demonoid.
The stats currently show ANH with 65 completed, ESB has 128 completed, while ROTJ shows 581 completed.
I simply refuse to believe ROTJ is that much more popular than ANH.
(And I took care when naming the torrents to maximize the chances that the search function would find all three.)

Again, I don't mean to diminish the work you've done on Recobbled, nor the enjoyment MANY have gotten from it.

However, in practice you must take into account the “fuckwit factor”. Just talk to Darth Mallwalker…
-Moth3r

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Originally posted by: meedermow

Well assuming you're grabbing this off Demonoid, you might want to take it up with any of the 30 people currently seeding with me...



Nope, I didn't know it was on demonoid. I was grabbing it from pirate bay. Thanks for the heads up!

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So is ther a torrent for the new cut? If there isn't I love to have a copy somehow. I'm going through this topic page by page and slowly familiarizing myself with the process of making this DVD. I keep getting more and more excited as I go on and I'm only on the 11th page. haha.
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Found this biography of David Koenigsberg that provides some insight into the Disney restoration of "Thief and The Cobbler":

http://www.the-cosmic-forces.net/cast/koenigsberg_david.html

The improved quality of Thai Wang's work reached Hollywood and so, on a return trip from Taipei, David saw the next production to come in was, The Thief and the Cobbler (1995) also known as "The Princess and the Cobbler" and "Arabian Knight."

A long fabled, tortured production that had been started in the 60's had now been taken over by the Completion Bond Company (CBC) from the director, Richard Williams. David might have been the last person to watch the director's cut (of mostly pencil test footage) before it was re-edited by CBC. Years later, Roy E. Disney expressed a desire to release the director's cut and it was David who provided the bad news (and exactly how all art at Thai Wang was regularly destroyed).


So I guess the completed footage is a lost cause, unless Richard Williams has some spare reels laying around.
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Originally posted by: Taolar
Damn! I'm at 97% on the old disc...

...

Nope, I didn't know it was on demonoid. I was grabbing it from pirate bay. Thanks for the heads up!

Be sure to read the torrent comments @demonoid. Some have reported trouble burning it.
I'll seed the tygerbug@thepiratebay one to push you over the top.

However, in practice you must take into account the “fuckwit factor”. Just talk to Darth Mallwalker…
-Moth3r

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>>So I guess the completed footage is a lost cause, unless Richard Williams has some spare reels laying around.

According to rumor from those who know, he does and so does Disney. A restoration is still unlikely.