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A couple of things I feel like I have to say here. I have been on here forever. I don't post a lot but I do every once and a while, and know some of you by email and such. I am really surprised and disappointed by the reaction here by a few of us. I mean the specific purpose of this web site was to get the originals released and it finally happened and people just start to assume the worst.

This is why us nerds (and I include myself in that nerd list) get a bad name, and frankly I just don't understand it. Can you just wait and see? If it sucks they you can complain, I however don't think it is going to suck, it may not be perfect but it will be better then we have ever had. The reason why I think this, and I don't know any more then the rest of you, is because that would be a horrible mistake if they looked like crap. LF would get so much flack that it would just be dumb. They are usually too smart to do stuff like that, reversed soundtrack excluded, and I will always believe that that was a horrible mistake that they were too embarrass to admit.

Secondly even if it was the greatest release ever I believe that some people would still bitch and complain. I think if there had never been SE many of those same people would be bitching and complaining that they need to clean up the mat lines and all the rest. Where is my SE! George Lucas give me my SE like all these other directors do. At this point I have decided that they are not rational complaints so why even bother to listen. Who complains about something that they have never even seen like it is a fact?

One of the things that bothers me the most is the complete lack of respect for Lucas, the vitriol that is spewed at times here is really hard to take. When I was young and my parents were fighting and finally divorced, Lucas gave me something that I could escape to during all that. Now in hindsight at 33 I can say how grateful I am that I had those stories in my life, and that they were so positive. Look at what many kids have today, some of the music and games are sending terrible message that will not really help these kids in the real world. The movies introduced me to Classical music at a very young age something that I might not have been interested in but because of Williams’s soundtracks I grew to love many classical composers. Think of all the movies, games, books, general fun that came for GL creativity for all of us to enjoy. The figures were such a part of my early childhood and I am sure many of yours. Saving up my allowance every two weeks and then going to Toy R Us was the greatest thrill as a child. Remember searching through rows of figures. Remember the first time seeing Empire Strikes Back? Remember Indiana Jones? All of that was because of only George Lucas.

In a sense George Lucas, and Steven Spealburg were like the Beatles of our generation, and like the Beatles they did it to make money, and I can't hold it agents them. The Beatles were not perfact but do people hate John Lennon because of Yoko, well I guess some assholes did, and one truly giant one I can think of. Anyway I'm sure I will get to enjoy Star Wars with my children and there children to come. Hopefully when I am gone some future generation of mine will get some of my hand me down figures or some object and when they watch the movies they will still connect with me in some way. Your Great-Great Grand father used to play with these toys, he loved these movies and they will say, you mean he actually played with these with his hands? He watched the movies on a screen, but that’s another story. Anyway that is pretty cool and George Lucas is responsible for that.

I know we all were disappointed with the prequels and with the fact that he wouldn't release the movies like we wanted them and that is understandable, but I don't understand hating someone who has been so involved indirectly with all of our lives. Even now we all are enjoying talking, debating, recreating (which his company has let us do) these films. I can't bash him, sorry the guy is great.

I will always remember how sucky that time in my life was but I will also always remember how great it was falling asleep to my soundtrack album, or movie dialogue tape that I copied from my friends album. Playing with my figures, looking at the pictures at my calendars. Trying to figure out what was happening in the previews for Empire. Those were great times man.

All I ever have to say to or about George Lucas is Thanks.

PS, I have to defend this site most of us truly love the movies are grateful to George, and are thrilled that the originals are finally being released. Just like GL has made some mistakes and that shouldn't spoil all that he has accomplished, some bad apples here shouldn't spoil most of the good people here.
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You said it.

It's not like George Lucas didn't have problems in his life, either. It was really a wonderful move on his part to finally release the original versions of the trilogy in 2006. It's obvious that he didn't want to. Heck, at the AFI tribute, he didn't allow the original releases to be shown in the theatre. This wasn't just about making more money for him; I believe that he really felt like he wanted his versions with the "mistakes" corrected out there. If I were him, it would hurt to put all this money into making changes like fixing the landspeeder, changing the explosion, and redoing the model work- improving all of these "mistakes" that have bugged him for so long, and then turn around and put the version with all the "mistakes" on DVD right away.

Granted, he got carried away and made some very foolish changes, but with this surprising move to release the original versions (which I never thought possible), I totally forgive him. He's gotten my respect back. The prequels were bad, but still- I forgive him now and I really hope like the rest of you that these new releases will have great video quality.
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I will agree at how suprised alot of fans have reacted to this news. I for one will buy it, and I am cautiously optimistic that it will be good. I keep saying I just cant believe Lucas is going to put out some crap on Sept. 12th, I really don't, I think it will satisfy a majority.

As for Lucas, I have gotten to the point where I just don't care anymore. I have never hated the man personally, I think anyone who does takes it way too far. But he is disingenious on everything he does, and that kinda annoys me, and will always leave a bad taste in my mouth.

I look at it this way: on Sept 12th, I will buy this set that day, unless it gets awful reviews and the internet spreads that these are hack jobs. But I will go on the assumption that these are great transfers with great sound, and I am perfectly satisfied.

I won't give a rats ass about SW or George Lucas anymore, and that is not to be taken negatively to him personaly. The PT to me will be forgettable, it has its moments, but I have come to terms that I only love the OT, and that is life. But I will have my favorite three films of all-time on a format in which I feel I will be satisfied for the rest of my life. Sure if they come out on HD-DVD I am there, but if they don't, DVD quality is fine with me. It is like CD's, I have had a CD player since 1989, and I am happy with my collection, and not even followed if there is a better format to listen to music. I don't know, is there?

No matter what George Lucas says now or in 10 years, or 20 years about the OT, or whatever he changes for the Super Duper SE in 2007, or 2017, I could care less. If I am satisfied with these on Sept. 12th, he can't take them away from me anymore, he can't change anything anymore, and he cant badmouth them anymore.

Whatever his motives for releasing them, I have not thought twice about, and I am not taking it personally. I want these films so badly cause I want to enjoy them on a great format like DVD for the rest of my life. I have my motives, George has his.

For whatever I think of Lucas now, the bottom line is my point of reference of these movies is 77-83 anymore, and that is the way I will try to remember him by after Sept.12th. For that, I will bow to the man, cause I can't imagine movies with The Star Wars Trilogy. Nothing has compared to them, as I always get full enjoyment watching them. Whatever happened to post-SE George, won't concern me anymore cause the PT & the SE won't exist to me.

I can go back to thinking the duel between ObiWan/Anakin on this volcano planet was great, Leia and her mom went into exile, Anakin was cooler than Han Solo as a padawan, and midiclorians? Isn't that a seafood?

Guys, just be patient, I really think we will be happy on Sept. 12th.
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I'll just wait until the DVDs actually come out and see what's on them before thanking Lucas.

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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I'm not sure if the opinions that the complaining about the news is referring to me, but I'd like to speak anyway. I certainly hope it's not because I don't feel that I am reacting to the news in the "wrong way." If it's referring to the more extreme comments, I can't speak for them, just for myself. I have, however, expressed my concern about whether or not this set will be what they claim it to be, or what my imagination and goals hope it to be. I've also wondered aloud the reasoning behind them suddenly releasing it. I don't see how that's being ungrateful. It's being a smart consumer. There has been so much talk over the years from so many members here complaining about how the so-called "Lucas fanboys" eat up everything that Lucas serves up to them, blindly following his whims. Well, if we just eat this up without questioning, doesn't that make us exactly the same, except that we eat up the OOT while the others eat up the SE and PT? But don't confuse questioning with complaining, as I think a lot of you have. Just because some people are asking questions about the set and putting forth what they want it to be doesn't mean we're being ungrateful. We're having the same voice we've always had. This is Lucas's one shot. If he messes this up, I'm sure you'll be angrier than anybody else. And remember that I said if. We shouldn't necessarily assume that they'll be screwed up (even though his previous efforts have proven to the contrary); nor should we automatically assume they'll be right, either. We simply don't know enough to make any kinda of judgements. It's too early. Me? I'm excited about the possibilities. And you won't see me complaining if the sound isn't quite good enough or the picture isn't as amazingly vibrant. I will, however, throw a fit if I find out that a single frame of any of the films has been altered by Lucas's digital paint box. That's all I'll complain about. And considering that we all want the original versions, I don't think I'm voicing a dissenting opinion here. That's what we all want, and that's what we all expect. And, in the immortal words of Uncle Owen, if George doesn't deliver this time (after a decade of baiting us and making fun of us and what we love, waiting until we're rabid and mobilized to finally release it, which makes me wonder why you're all so quick to immediately forgive everything) then "there'll be hell to pay."

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Here here, Bomma. I'm shocked at a lot of the people here. As a writer, I know how Lucas claims to have felt. You look at the orange blob under the Landspeeder in Mos Eisley in ANH and I can totally understand why the idea of redoing effects would itch in the back of his mind for so many years until he just did it. I don't agree with all of his changes to the films, but I find a great majority of them to be fairly unobtrusive. But that was on the assumtpion that the original cuts wouldn't be "erased from existance", so to speak. And now that the original cuts are getting the preservation they deserve, I honestly don't mind anything else he does. For what it's worth, I enjoyed the prequel films as he wanted me to. Escapism and some nice backstory. I'm not as critical of them as everyone else because.... they're the stories he wanted to tell. It not that he messed up when making them, maybe it's just that the stories he told with the prequels were always less than steller? The prequels don't hold a candle to the original trilogy, but honestly, would anything ever manage to do that?

Ever since I was six or so, I wanted to see that battle between Obi-Wan and Anakin that made him into Darth Vader. I'm a lot younger than all of you here, just barely 19 and a half.... and I didn't grow up on the SEs, I grew up primarily with the original cuts too. I was 10 during the SE re-releases and though I'd seen the films plenty of times, it was those theatrical experiences that MADE me a bona-fide fan. And some of you never thought the SEs could have a positive effect?

What am I trying to say? I don't really know. I've never hated Lucas for anything he's done. When you create something, you have the right to revise it as you see fit, as long as you play fair and have a contingency, ie: keep the original cuts alive for those who prefur them. I never understood why he would refuse to do such a thing. If it were me, I'd do as I've said here, but note that "the SEs are in continuity, the OOT isn't" and leave it at that. Now that he's doing right by the OOT diehards, give him a rest. Even if the new releases are shoddy, it's still a supreme victory; you got him to change his mind, you got the artist to look at the work that make him embarrassed again. It's the principal of the thing, this whole argument always has been.

I can live with 80% of the SE additions. I even like the PT (overall). But not releasing the OOT in respectable condition? That's unacceptable.

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Originally posted by: CO
I have never hated the man personally, I think anyone who does takes it way too far. But he is disingenious on everything he does, and that kinda annoys me, and will always leave a bad taste in my mouth.

I'm glad to see someone put it so succinctly.

Since the Trilogy did figure into my life so much as a kid, and into adulthood, the dashed expectations and the revoked history (both filmic and of the SW universe itself) that resulted from the SEs and the prequels felt like betrayal.

The quote that this site is based on almost says it all. The OT gave viewers around the world a shared view for a universe, a fictional one but a shared view none-the-less. One of the big reasons Lucas wrote Star Wars was to provide a shared vision for our world, since, according to him, "the [19]60's shot the hell out of any shared vision we had for this place". He wanted to introduce a basic morality to kids of the 1970's, and he succeeded.

SW was a tale of good versus evil, of choice and consequence, and of redemption for the seemingly hopelessly lost. Lucas chose to marr the world that housed that vision 20 years after it had been indelibly imprinted on the conciousness of our planet. It was rewriting history. It was a betrayal of his audience. An audience which had even continued to pay him to enjoy the fantasy realm which he had created. Seems like Star Wars grew beyond Lucas, and he couldn't deal with that. 'Nuff said.


Originally posted by: CO
I can go back to thinking the duel between ObiWan/Anakin on this volcano planet was great, Leia and her mom went into exile, Anakin was cooler than Han Solo as a padawan, and midiclorians? Isn't that a seafood?


Amen. May the Force be with you.

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All of that was because of only George Lucas.


Hmmm. "Only" George?

Don't get me wrong, I have a lot of respect for George Lucas, and I even believe he is a genius when it comes to telling an entertaining story. I also believe that Star Wars wouldn't exist if it weren't for him. I just cannot believe he brought even the primary success to Star Wars. He owes a lot to the talented people he chose to work with, and a lot of that was pure luck on his part.

Look at the paintings which Ralph McQuarrie made for the original Star Wars trilogy. Try to imagine all of the style and mood that he alone gave Star Wars. Without McQuarrie, Star Wars could have easily been a simple and cliché story of good versus evil, with none of the character we love today or the magic that pulled us in. Darth Vader's machine-like body and black suit was all based upon a Ralph McQuarrie painting. So much of the visual feeling of the film was based upon what he designed or inspired for Lucas, not the other way around.

What about the sound? George Lucas didn't invent or discover the sound that went to the lightsabers or many of the other amazing and classic Star Wars sounds; that was the great work of Ben Burt. The amazing music was written by John Williams, who was suggested to Lucas by Steven Spileberg I believe. Also, with The Empire strikes back and Return of the Jedi, he didn't direct the films, and neither did he fully write the story for either of the movies. George got lucky in so many ways you can't imagine.

George Lucas is a great artist, but don't want people to worship him (especially when he becomes extremely stubborn over silly reasoning). Whatever his skill, there’s no excuse for him to be so irrational at times. At the very least you shouldn’t be surprised when people get a little frustrated with him now and then.

"Now all Lucas has to do is make a cgi version of himself.  It will be better than the original and fit his original vision." - skyjedi2005

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Dude I am not worshiping him. I am just say no George no Star Wars, No Indy, No Industrial Light and Magic, Lucas Arts, and on and on. Many great people helped with the process but he started it, and I am really grateful to him for that. I agree with people who say he is stubborn and over did the prequels and changes his mind a lot. I personally hated the Han shot first, and especially the terribly badly executed Hayden-head, and even if it had been executed correctly it made no sense. But give the guy a break, and I hate to say it but you take it too personally when it is said, "he baiting us and making fun of us", I just don't see it. He wanted to change something he felt was a distraction, but what he doesn't realize is it was more a personal distraction to him not the fans. That doesn't make him the bad guy destroying people’s childhood like some people make him out to be.

Personally I think someone who says stuff like that invites to be criticized you are taking this whole thing way to personal. When you say he better get it right or else, or else what, the most you can do is not buy the product. I can understand you frustration but you don’t even know that it is going to be bad and is sounds like you are making threats. Then when I hear some people say stuff like Lucas is an ass, or he is evil or stuff to that level of anger, it is upsetting because I am a member of this site and I don’t want to be associated with vitriol like that, and I don’t want the site to be thought of that way ether frankly. At the most you could say he ignored us, but he didn't personally set out to piss us off. I can understand people being annoyed that he didn't consider our feelings but that is also his right, and we have a right to then not bother to buy the product he releases and complain and ask for the original. This site was created specifically for us to give voice to our frustrations, but it undermines our credibility and our argument to say hateful things. Eventually no one will listen and people who are on our side will tune us out. (By the way I am not saying this to anyone in particular because I don’t even know who said stuff like that I only know I have read a lot of it lately.) Plus we look like idiots when we finally get some progress on this and we all start complaining before we even see if it what we want or not.

Now the guy is going to give us the product that we have asked for so actually he has heard our issue and is trying to accommodate us, to me that make it all fine. What I don't understand is when people make this into a personal slight. Like Abe Vigoda said it's was always business never personal.

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I can agree with almost everything you said there. I don't even think George, at his worst, can ever be called a bad guy overall. I don't like the extreme attacks on him either. Yet, when he acts like a jerk sometimes, I'm still going to say he's acting like a jerk at that moment and in that way.

"Now all Lucas has to do is make a cgi version of himself.  It will be better than the original and fit his original vision." - skyjedi2005

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As I said earlier, anyone who hates Lucas personally takes it a bit far. But the thing that gets everyones goat and mine more often than not, is his constant revisionism of the SW saga. He is never willing to just admit he changed the story, etc. There is nothing wrong with that, Cameron did it with T:2, Zemeckis did it with Back to the Future II & III, and I'm sure the Wackowski's did it with Matrix 2 & 3.

The reason I get mad at this, is you have a whole younger generation of fans who are getting a different message mostly about the OT, but the saga as a whole cause Lucas refuses to say anything in the past he has done differently.

You don't know how many younger fans, mostly PT lovers, tell me that SW '77 was never a standalone movie, it was just a setup to a 6 part saga Lucas has planned in 1975. He has brainwashed them into believing the OT is the story of Anakin/Vader and not about Luke, so I have rarely seen any younger fan seeing 1-3 first, even like or love the original SW. Because they perceive the story as Anakins now in the OT, the only parts they find interesting are Cloud City & the last hour ROTJ that features Darth Vader. There are so many younger fans who find the Han, Leia, Luke parts boring or what they call 'exposition' to get to the real story. What they call exposition, I call them the heart of the saga!

It is not about Lucas changing his mind from 12 to 9 to 6 episodes, its that his ego won't say, "You know what, I originally planned 9 episodes, but I just didn't want to do SW my whole life, so I kinda changed around the saga using the PT to bring out Darth Vaders backstory, and even though the OT is about Luke, it makes Vader story much different now." Thats fair, instead we get, "The 9 episodes was a media fabrication, it was always about this father and these twins." -2004 DVD Documentary. But Lucas knows Darth Vader didn't become Lukes father til ESB, and Leia didn't become his sister til ROTJ!

Bob Zemeckis really struck me with his quote on the Back to the Future Commentary, "After the first movie, we put to be continued..., but it was a joke, I had no intentions of any sequels, until it became a huge hit. I never had this master plan of a trilogy like George Lucas did with Star Wars. It was always one self contained movie, and then Bob Gale and I wrote the next two movies totally out of the blue." Zemeckis could have lied, and nobody would have known, but he doesn't need to be revered as having everything planned out for his trilogy.

Sound like another trilogy we grew up with from 77-83? I just think the older fans get fed up with Lucas not ever just fessing up, and being humble. If Lucas would say today that Darth Vader wasn't Lukes father in the original SW, I wouldn't care. To me that would be interesting on the Episode IV commentary. I would love to know how & when Lucas decided to go with Vader as Lukes father. I would love to know what convinced him to do it, did he see the popularity of Darth Vader as that main reason? I would love to know when he decided to go with Leia as Lukes sister, did anyone joke, "You know George, they did smooch in the last movie?"

I would totally interested if George gave the real story of SW, how many notes did he really have back in 1975, how many episodes did he want to do? But I think it is the utter frustration that has built up for the past 10 years from fans knowing not that George Lucas is changing the story, that doesn't bother me, but that he never EVER admits it.

Just as he said in 2004, "If you want the O-OT on DVD, you can get it on VHS!" I don't hate him for statements like that, but quotes like that really makes it hard to love the guy anymore.
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You know I just came to an epiphany today. Star Wars will never stop changing. It hasnt been the same since May 25th 1977.

I know George Lucas likes to tote himself as an experimental filmmaker and if you view his early work that is certainly the case but ever since Star Wars he's deliberately become a mainstream one. But i think Star Wars may be in fact his greatest experiment. Its an experiment in constant revisionism--beginning with a film that stands as one thing and slowly metamorphises until its current version is hardly even recognizable as Star Wars. It will be forever incomplete as long as George Lucas is alive. The day the film opened George Lucas was in the MGM recording studio doing ADR recording with Mark Hamill and mixing an improved mono version--i think this anecdote is indicative of the general style in which Lucas takes to Star Wars. Its always changing and it will never be the same film that was released in May 25 1977, in both superficial cosmetic ways and deeper story and character ways. Darth Vader was not Luke's father, Obi Wan didn't duel Luke's father on a volcano, the Sith were common amongst the Imperial ranks, there were multiple Emperors and Leia was just a dasmel in distress. Then all of this was added. Then it became Episode IV of VI. It was recut. Remixed. Our perspective on characters and story changed with the introductions of sequels, prequels and EU.

And as Lucas said himself, one of the main reasons he went back to do the prequels was because it would alter how we viewed the originals. He doesn't want the films to stay the same. And Star Wars hasn't been Star Wars since May 25th 1977. A person viewing it in May 1977, May 1980, May 1990 and May 2010 would each have an entirely different view of the film.

This is Lucas' experiment, and he's far from finished with it.

In this light i actually think its pretty neat because theres never really been a film that has undergone such a process, especially one with a large fan base--naturally people will cling to a particular version of the ever-changing film, be it a certain sound mix or video edit.
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Keep in mind the mono version was insurance that Dolby Stereo wasn't a short lived format. A lot of theaters didn't have it in '77 and it wasn't compatible with playback in a mono equipped theater until later on.
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Loved your post as usual, CO. I have to call you one minor discrepancy, though, since I'm such a huge BTTF fan. The "To Be Continued..." wasn't added until it was released for home video when they knew there was going to be sequel. And that's why you don't see it on the DVDs, because they were determined to get the original versions released (which is why I loved them, even though I grew up on the altered (and, for the sequels TV broadcast altered) versions). What Zemeckis said was that the cliffhanger ending (which would admittedly go well with a "To Be Continued..." was supposed to be a joke.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
Loved your post as usual, CO. I have to call you one minor discrepancy, though, since I'm such a huge BTTF fan. The "To Be Continued..." wasn't added until it was released for home video when they knew there was going to be sequel. And that's why you don't see it on the DVDs, because they were determined to get the original versions released (which is why I loved them, even though I grew up on the altered (and, for the sequels TV broadcast altered) versions). What Zemeckis said was that the cliffhanger ending (which would admittedly go well with a "To Be Continued..." was supposed to be a joke.



You're right, my mistake. I never saw it in the theater in '85, I remember renting it in the summer of '86 and saw to be continued....and I was hyped for a sequel. God, I sound like a SW PT fan, not knowing my facts on the Back to the Future Series! I guess I should stick to SW related stuff..........
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zombie84 if you take you premise one step further and I tend to agree with you though I don't know if Lucas is intentionally doing this or if it is just he can't help himself. But if except that premise than it is even more interesting that now the fans of the movies are also taking the movies and changing them, almost like a new form of art actually. The same thing is happening with music, look at the gray album as an example, and many hip-hop stars are releasing acapella versions of there raps so people can edit and create new stuff with it.

Pretty cool.

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Originally posted by: CO
Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
Loved your post as usual, CO. I have to call you one minor discrepancy, though, since I'm such a huge BTTF fan. The "To Be Continued..." wasn't added until it was released for home video when they knew there was going to be sequel. And that's why you don't see it on the DVDs, because they were determined to get the original versions released (which is why I loved them, even though I grew up on the altered (and, for the sequels TV broadcast altered) versions). What Zemeckis said was that the cliffhanger ending (which would admittedly go well with a "To Be Continued..." was supposed to be a joke.



You're right, my mistake. I never saw it in the theater in '85, I remember renting it in the summer of '86 and saw to be continued....and I was hyped for a sequel. God, I sound like a SW PT fan, not knowing my facts on the Back to the Future Series! I guess I should stick to SW related stuff..........


Don't worry about it. It was just nitpicking on my part, because you got the general gist, you just messed up the pivotal detail. I'm too big of a nerd to have let it slide. ^_~

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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The only nice things I can think of to say about George Lucas is that he's not a rapist and/or child molester. At least, not that I know of.
I'd like a qui-gon jinn please with an Obi-Wan to go.

Red heads ROCK. Blondes do not rock. Nuff said.

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Originally posted by: zombie84
In this light i actually think its pretty neat because theres never really been a film that has undergone such a process, especially one with a large fan base--naturally people will cling to a particular version of the ever-changing film, be it a certain sound mix or video edit.

Maybe not the same fan base but Abel Gance's Napoleon was edited into approximately 19 different versions, mostly by Abel Gance himself. I think GL's revisionism with the SW films is in the same realm.

Princess Leia: I happen to like nice men.
Han Solo: I'm a nice man.

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I have to agree with Bomma here. Here is a quote from the petition which we all signed:
Originally posted by: Jay
Those of us who love your movies and even those who are only casual film fans admire your drive to perfect your vision of the Star Wars experience. We know that you constantly push your creative companies to blaze new frontiers of digital filmmaking and that you are also an artist who is never satisfied and strives for perfection. We, the film-going public, benefit from your vision and embrace the ever-growing Star Wars universe.

Furthermore, we understand that you have commercial concerns and that you need to consider the financial viability of any home video product that you release. Perhaps a Limited Edition run of the original films along with a Special Edition release would be in order. This approach would sate niche market demand, while still targeting the general public and no doubt breaking home video sales records. We want it to be known that there is enormous demand for the original theatrical versions of the films. Your devoted fans would more than likely purchase both an Original Trilogy release as well as any Special Edition versions.

Jay put his point clearly but respectfully, which is the best way to acheive results. It now looks like we're getting exactly what we asked for, and I am very happy about it. Whatever quibbles people have after this set is released are massively overshadowed by the fact that it is happening at all.
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Your right Jay where getting like we're getting exactly what we asked for, and I am very happy about it. I like all the versions off all the star wars movies that George Lucas has released over the years. There are some changes I like and ones I don't like but overall I'm happy that finaly the versions of the star wars trilogy we all grew up with are coming on dvd. And I think dvd's will look great. Thank you mr. lucas. And Thank you Jay for starting this peation and making it work. Star wars is forever.
Kenneth Kraly Jr.