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I think, maybe that sounds correct, about RowMan mixing 'em up. Can someone clarify the differences for the easily-confused (like me )?

Also; can anyone who has any info on the extra discs for any of the sets, please contact me, I'd like to compare, but don't want to start a thread, as they are all very similar in content. I'm picky though

To contact me outside the forum, for trades and such my email address is my OT.com username @gmail.com

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I think he was confusing the 2 different versions. He couldn't have seen the new one since it isn't done.
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Whoops. You're right. I was confused. Sorry.
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Originally posted by: Moth3r
I wouldn't recommend the Farsight version to anyone; the white level is set far too high. Disappointing as setting brightness and contrast correctly is the first most important aspect of any transfer.


Strange, as I haven't noticed this on any of the TVs or PCs I've seen it on...
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This poll definitely needs to be restarted, in the light of the Cowclops/TR47 v2 release. Although perhaps we should wait for Moth3r's ROTJ and Citizen's set?
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Greetings.

This is my first post on the forum. To start, Id like to thank the preservationists. You have done us all a great service. I am yet to see any of these transfers but Im sure to be impressed, especially after my great disapointment with the SE version. I still find it hard to believe the changes Jabba George made & after looking at the screen comparisons I am shocked to see what they did with the colour correction.

To get back on topic & hopefuly revive this thread...Whats the verdict in 2006?

How do the newer transfers compare to the older ones? Whats everyones favorite? As a noob to this forum any advise would be greatly appreciated.

Jax.
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I haven't seen all the transfers, especially some of the newer ones.

My favorite has to be the OCP Classic Edition discs, without a doubt.

However if you're looking for just a straight LD rip, I love the DarkJedi DefCol.

Also the DarkJedi Pan&Scan set looks exactly like my old VHS tapes which is very cool to relive.
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OCP's versions are very well done, however IMO they don't reflect the original versions as they still have SE material in them and they have that terrible "look" of the official DVD's. I guess that because that's what was used.

Dr. Gonzo's set is great. But my favorite has to be the EditDroid set. With the choice of the 2 crawls on ANH and the clarity is awesome.

CowClops V.2 is also pretty damn good, although, I have noticed that the black levels are set a little too high.
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If you're looking for restoration, like was said above, OCP's Classic Editions are best. These are what I watch.

Best non-anamorphic NTSC transfer is EditDroid. Best anamorphic NTSC transfer is Citizen, though he's not done with Jedi yet. If you're just looking to watch the movies again and aren't a completist, getting any one of these three sets should do you good. The CowClops v2 set has a lot of hype behind it for the PCM soundtrack, but the picture quality is slaughtered by a number of other sets out there.

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Roll on, fanedits.com
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Thanks Reverend, Mark & SWFan.

If anyone has anything to add Im still interested...

Jax
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Well I have the Dr Gonzo and OCP -- which I guess doesn't count since the primary source is DVD.

But checking on the scrrencaps, I'd say Moth3r's is pretty damn good. I still have not seen EditDroid's version yet though.
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The above link has a chart comparing many of the features of the many versions on DVD. Check it out !
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Prillman's site is kind of handy, but it's way out of date.

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The truth is, none of the current sets are perfect; they're all flawed in some way, either due to the limitations of single layer discs or the equipment used to make them. Yes, even OCP's set, while well made and great quality, still contains unremoveable SE elements which hamper my enjoyment. The color scheme on the retail DVDs is terribly oversaturated and it's much too dark, although OCP did compensate for this somewhat. As good as they are, I'd still rather watch blurry LD copies.
My set does have its flaws, but I specifically wanted to concentrate more on sound quality than video quality, because that is what makes Star Wars great, and also because no other transfer has PCM audio. Personally, I could care less about a few extra lines of resolution if I have to listen to dull, compressed audio. This is just my opinion and I don't expect anyone to concur, so save your comments.
Hopefully, once the X0 project is complete, it will put this thread to rest as I'm sure it will be the new standard, and there will be no further disputes as to which is best.
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The Galactic Trade Federation website has most every set around, and does a good job listing the features of all of them.
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Originally posted by: TR47
My set does have its flaws, but I specifically wanted to concentrate more on sound quality than video quality, because that is what makes Star Wars great, and also because no other transfer has PCM audio. Something came up a few weeks ago, maybe you could confirm:
the PCM audio on your V1 was apparently recorded from the LD player's analogue output, and there are some reports of digital clipping caused by the input level being too high. Was V2 also recorded over analogue, or is it resampled from a digitally extracted clone of the laserdisc PCM?
Originally posted by: TR47
Hopefully, once the X0 project is complete, it will put this thread to rest as I'm sure it will be the new standard, and there will be no further disputes as to which is best.
I doubt it, somehow...

Imagine what you could do by taking a colour/gamma corrected DVD, and using the X0 transfer (to fix the SE elements), and one of the DVB captures (to fix certain DVD defects). One day, maybe...

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The reason that happened with V1 was because the LDs were captured onto a Sony DV Cam and then transferred to PC via firewire, rather than directly. V2 was captured through a PC capture card, via the digital out on the LD player, so what you hear is exactly the same as the LD. I've compared them myself by playing the actual LDs and the DVD simultaneously while switching between them and there is no significant quality difference.

Imagine what you could do by taking a colour/gamma corrected DVD, and using the X0 transfer (to fix the SE elements), and one of the DVB captures (to fix certain DVD defects). One day, maybe...


That is a possibility, but the X0 will most likely be the new standard. Your idea seems like it would require more effort and time than any one person could possibly muster.
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Thanks for that, TR47, I was still wondering about that v1 vs v2 audio thing - good to know. Moth3r, your idea is very attractive in theory, but I doubt that a natural-looking picture can be recovered from the DVDs with colour/gamma correction (although it could be significantly improved). However, I'd love to be proved wrong.
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Originally posted by: THX
... I doubt that a natural-looking picture can be recovered from the DVDs with colour/gamma correction (although it could be significantly improved). However, I'd love to be proved wrong.
Zion and I corrected a couple of example frames to show what can be achieved, you can see them at the end of this thread.

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If anyone wants to try this with ANH and send me a copy ... =)
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Yes, I saw those samples Moth3r, thanks. They are indeed a significant improvement but it looks like there's unrecoverable detail in the dark areas.