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Classic Edition: Return of the Jedi by Ocpmovie (Released) — Page 6

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OCP, thanks so much for your tireless efforts in making these wonderful projects.
Its MUCH appreciated by all of us. If some day you decide to work on ARMY OF DARKNESS,
well that would be great as well. Keep up the good work.

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I should be working on a long long AOD pretty soon (around 108mins).

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So the whole thing is STILL out of sync. I spent my entire morning on this, and now I'm doing it all over again. I have no idea why or what's going on. I just roll with it.
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So the whole thing is STILL out of sync. I spent my entire morning on this, and now I'm doing it all over again.


*fingers crossed*

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Okay Alex, if you're doing a long AOD ... I don't know if you've planned anything yet, so let me just give you MY notes on what I was going to do. It might help.

I did a long AOD in ... 1999. It was analog, not DVD, so the quality is crap compared to what's out now, but I learned what had to be done.

These are my notes to myself. Enjoy!


Anchor Bay releases it in the US, in shitty picture quality. Ignore that version. There's a version from ... Korea or Hong Kong ... which is by MGM. The picture quality is aces, and it's the director's cut. Get THAT version.

Most of the movie goes unchanged. You gotta do what I did with the Classic Editions and rip the M2V files from the disc and use THOSE in your DVD making program for 90% of the movie, not anything that's been touched and reencoded by your editing program. You'll sneak your own version in when needed and match the frame.

You need the version that aired on the sci-fi channel. It contains two of the deleted scenes in better quality than on the Anchor Bay release. A good version of the extra opening scene where Ash fights Arthur, and a good (and shorter) version of a scene where Ash is lured outside of the windmill (an attempt at building suspense).

The deleted scenes you need from the Anchor Bay release are Ash inviting Henry the Red, and the alternate opening. These are in shitty quality, and need to be color corrected to make them useable at all. You also need to cut out the splice marks on every shot, as these are from workprint.

You are not using the entire alternate opening, just a few extra bits from it to extend the beginning. You need Ash saying "it got into my hand and it went bad - so I LOPPED IT OFF AT THE WRIST." A nice different delivery. You can use the picture from the theatrical. You need Ash shouting and summoning as blue light flashes. ("Kallakah" I think he's shouting.) I forget what the other bits are.

You need footage from Evil Dead 2, most notably a closeup shot of Ash screaming in the vortex as electricity surges around him. That extends the opening slightly.

From the theatrical cut you'll be using "Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun", "maybe I'm a Chinese jetpilot" (audio only, don't need to redo the picture), and the ending. Seamless branching will make it easy enough to include the alternate ending also. Just stick it in its own chapter after the feature - it will already start on the same frame as your own ending, since you're using the MGM DVD. Create a "story" that rearranges the order and you're all good.
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Thanks for the notes, Garrett. A guy who posted here a couple times called Jeph did the same thing a while back. He constructed the long AOD while he was constructing a 1-movie version of the ED trilogy. I'm going to be working with him soon to re-construct those in DVD quality.

The 1-movie version will be in an open-matte fullscreen. The long AOD will be in both open-matte fullscreen and widescreen (perhaps anamorphic, depending on the sources). There's gonna be a lot of tricky blending and things like that going on.

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I've learned that if it's not anamorphic widescreen taken DIRECTLY from the original encode without editing or reencoding ... it ain't worth doin'. =)



I feel such a swell of pride seeing Jedi and Empire looking just as good as the 2004 DVDs and knowing that's possible. AOD would benefit from the same treatment.


Anyway.


I've done another pass on the sound sync. I'm flying blind so to speak, editing the sound to no picture at all and getting it closer bit by bit. This is such an insanely arduous process. I'm pretty close now. This might be the last pass. I hope so.
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You know why you're having trouble, don't you?

It's because you're saying after this, you're not going to do any more SW DVDs, and fate doesn't want to let you do that.

^^

Oh, AoD would be almost as good though, heh.
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Since you've really improved on your methods, are you considering revisiting ANH at all? (I think it's fine, except the laserdisc footage looks heavily reencoded, where it already looks worse simply for being laserdisc.)

My stance on revising fan edits.

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No, not planning on redoing my previous work. It was good the first time, and redoing it would be even more of a MASSIVE waste of time for an already busy guy. =)


ANH had more special edition stuff to remove too, so it makes sense that I would have reencoded the whole film ...
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Hey gang can someone forward me a copy of the OCP Jedi for upload?

“My skill are no longer as Mad as the once were” RiK

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Originally posted by: jasonrocksout
Sorry for the confusion ocpmovie, what I meant was that the covers that I've printed out to use are the ones you have hosted as:
http://orangecow.org/starwars/swcovers-nonocp/classic1withtext-coov.jpg
and
<a href>http://orangecow.org/starwars/swcovers-nonocp/esbredvaderwtext-coov.jpg</a>

I just like the uniformity of the bars running across the top and bottom on both, and I like the style of the posters (sorry, I'm not up on different poster designs so I really don't know what the "style" letters would be for them, or their origins) as they seem to have similar characteristics in so far as they both have an almost cartoon/comicbook-like feel to them. Like I said, I don't know the different poster variants, so I don't know if there is an ROTJ poster that could be used that would have a similar feel, I was just wondering if Coov had something like that in the works. I'd be very curious to see the 3 different covers that you said he's created for ROTJ so far though! Everything he's put together has been pretty impressive.


Not to many posters to choose from... but to at least keep it consistent'ish with the other covers I used the Revenge poster.

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Sweet, that looks great.


I'll come up with the text for the back, for that variant (basically the same as the ESB text), and we can also do variants using the overlays of the "official poster" and "saber poster" on red, as with the red cover.
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Yeah, the AOD Anchor Bay releases are crap... all of them are VHS sourced rather than transferred from film elements. I have no idea why a reputable company would do that other than corner cutting or lack of access to the original filmstock. The R3 MGM DVD from Deltamac Hong Kong is the best one by far, it contains scenes not included in the US versions and is mastered from film in 16:9 with 5.1 audio! There is no better version out there.
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I have a suspicion that Anchor Bay is run by complete retards. They're reputable only because of the movies they release ... and rerelease ... and rerelease ...
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Hey gang can someone forward me a copy of the OCP Jedi for upload?

Please drop me a PM

“My skill are no longer as Mad as the once were” RiK

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Now this looks like a great one. Return of the Jedi has always been my all time favorite Star Wars film and this dvd of thereal version of the classic film looks to be excellent. PS, glad to see Shaw in a dvd rather than that awful Gayden Christensen.
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Originally posted by: kev
Now this looks like a great one. Return of the Jedi has always been my all time favorite Star Wars film and this dvd of thereal version of the classic film looks to be excellent. PS, glad to see Shaw in a dvd rather than that awful Gayden Christensen.



Watch the "gayden" crap. Some of us here are "gayden."
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I can't wait till OCPmovie is done with this version. This is gonna be cool. I can't wait to see what the Rancor looks like without mat-lines around him. It's gonna rock.



Also - What? Christiansen is gay? Since when?
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I think he means gay in the pejorative sense.

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I like Hayden Christensen in the prequels, for what it's worth. I like Bugs Bunny too, but I don't want Bugs Bunny Photoshopped into the end of Return of the Jedi.
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Originally posted by: Coov
Originally posted by: jasonrocksout
Sorry for the confusion ocpmovie, what I meant was that the covers that I've printed out to use are the ones you have hosted as:
http://orangecow.org/starwars/swcovers-nonocp/classic1withtext-coov.jpg
and
<a href>http://orangecow.org/starwars/swcovers-nonocp/esbredvaderwtext-coov.jpg</a>

I just like the uniformity of the bars running across the top and bottom on both, and I like the style of the posters (sorry, I'm not up on different poster designs so I really don't know what the "style" letters would be for them, or their origins) as they seem to have similar characteristics in so far as they both have an almost cartoon/comicbook-like feel to them. Like I said, I don't know the different poster variants, so I don't know if there is an ROTJ poster that could be used that would have a similar feel, I was just wondering if Coov had something like that in the works. I'd be very curious to see the 3 different covers that you said he's created for ROTJ so far though! Everything he's put together has been pretty impressive.


Not to many posters to choose from... but to at least keep it consistent'ish with the other covers I used the Revenge poster.


Hey Coov,

i was wondering when a final version of this cover would be made available. i think the revenge poster fits in well with the others as they are all truly unique. i must say that these covers are the definate cover set for the definative original trilogy transfer, in my opinion. Thanks for all the great work.

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I believe Coov is waiting for my text etc., that will make the covers complete.

I'll do that when I've done the actual disc.