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I’ve come to expect only the highest quality of work from you, and I don’t think this fan edit will disappoint.
“They were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Naturally, they became heroes.”
-Senator Leia Organa of Alderaan, as quoted by Alan Dean Foster
Star Wars, from the Adventures of Luke Skywalker, by George Lucas (Nov. 1976)
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The quote above, written by Alan Dean Foster and referring to Han & Luke, I feel applies a more closely to the characters of Rogue One, the 2016 prequel to that story, and that film’s 2022 prequel, Andor. Heroes of the unsung, unknown variety; their victories and sacrifices all the more meaningful and poignant because of it. It’s almost impossible to rewatch Rogue One, almost 10 years after its premiere, without two seasons of Andor weighing on it, pushing some to see it as a sort of “series finale” to that show.
But I don’t think it really works as a series finale to Andor; yet Andor is clearly, intentionally building to it. Showrunner Tony Gilroy specifically begins to fold the more hopeful/fantastical elements of both Rogue One (which he famously rewrote/reshot/re-edited) and Star Wars into its tapestry near the end, explicitly, for that reason! But Rogue One is still most solidly built, dramatically, as a bridge. Rogue One: A Star Wars Story - Special Edition is my attempt to reverse engineer the bridge, to carry viewers from a complicated 2016 to a more fantastical 1977 in a more streamlined manner; but also back towards the darker, demanding 2023-2025 series.
Sequences are compressed, not just to save time, but to maximize performances - there’s a TON of awards-caliber actors in this flick (the cast’s collective CV - maybe the best pound-for-pound cast IN a theatrical Star War - includes 2 Oscars, 2 Oscar Noms, a Cannes Grand Prix, a Cannes Best Actor, and 2 Emmys in it!) Those scenes have been rearranged a little too; some of Gilroy’s reshoot material is now stacked on top of itself at the open instead of spread out across the first 45min. And the stuff he didn’t reshoot has been made (yup, I’m gonna say it) faster and more intense. In 2016 the callbacks and (yup, gonna say this, too) fanservice was a little more welcomed (or tolerated). In 2025 it’s almost Alien: Romulus levels of elbows-to-the-ribs, and a lot of it’s been removed as a result. Although some of it’s fine. I don’t mind a pitcher of blue milk sitting out. It’s good and good for you. Healthy bones. Makes you strong enough to pull the ea–
Context is the key word here. There’s a lot of context coming to bear on this cut, context folks didn’t have (hell, that didn’t exist yet!) in 2016. Not just Andor, and all the context that show now provides to characters like Cassian and K-2SO, Orson Krennic and Saw Gerrera, even General Draven and Mon Mothma; but context via the previous edits and editors who have worked on this film in the interim. Some of those choices and ideas have been folded into this Special Edition.
That’s why this is a Special Edition: Normally I just do straight cuts and some music replacement. But since this started as some proof-of-concept tweaks, on a forum, to an edit of an edit, and then grew pretty quickly into something way more involved than that, there are things in here I don’t normally incorporate: You’ll see deepfake fixes to the CGI Tarkin & Leia from Shamook, as touched up by faneditor Burbin and integrated by Hal9000, as part of his own remixing of a top-notch edit by DigModiFicaTion. You’ll hear voice-over replacement of Darth Vader from Ryan Golden, as famously heard on YouTube via the Star Wars Story channel.
You won’t hear, however, any music from Andor folded into the soundtrack - not for lack of trying! Multiple scenes had Britell/Roberts cues mixed in at various points, but they all eventually came out. Same with attempts at using shots from the series as flashbacks; The problem was one of tone and style. I don’t think you can take what’s structurally, fundamentally Jyn Erso’s story in this film, and retrofit it to be equally Cassian’s. Especially since, on a larger thematic note, Cassian’s two seasons were ALL ABOUT how he, and his friends (who are everywhere), learned to put other people, and their growing, maturing cause, ahead of themselves, all for the sake of a better future.
I found I was short-circuiting both Rogue One and Andor when I tried to force this movie out of Jyn’s POV - thin as it might be. Although: trimming off a lot of her sarcastic/simplistic fronting and letting Jones’ performance speak more through her expressive-yet-subtle emoting REALLY helps that characterization. Turns out the less you have her posing, the realer she feels.
(That said, if you ARE looking to try a version of this movie that is literally turned into episodes of that show, please check out NFBisms amazing Andor: The Rogue One Arc.)
ANYWAY: If Rogue One is a bridge being retrofitted, then Jyn Erso has to occupy the midway point between Cassian Andor and Luke Skywalker (at least the one at the beginning of Star Wars) as best she can in order for it to work. Cassian has to be a supporting character here, not a co-lead, or Andor doesn’t make sense as a journey for him anymore. Jyn damn sure is not a Jedi, but she IS a believer. The corners of the galaxy they both occupy are dirty and grimy, but they’re literally knocking on doors to rooms that are about to be populated by wizards in bathrobes (a lesson Krennic already knows in his own way). Britell’s music can be pitch shifted and key transposed to blend into Giacchino’s, but the tenor of those compositions just didn’t combine for me, no matter what I tried. I guess that ended up being a metaphor for the project overall.
But the feel and style by which Andor’s story was told (if not through its music or repurposed shots) was absolutely front of mind as the cut evolved. And when changes were applied, they were applied so as to take the ingredients of Rogue One - Grieg Fraser’s photography, Michael Giacchino’s music, Gilroy’s sense of building pressure and dry humor - and cook ‘em up with a little more of that flavor. Especially now that we have so much more context to work with.
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story - Special Edition
2hrs, 6min. 1080p, 2.39:1, 5.1 Dolby Digital, English subtitles (alien-language subtitles burnt-in)
Chapters:
Notable changes can be found in this follow-up post here.
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Any suggestions, comments, critiques, questions - whatever you got, I’m all ears.
I’ve come to expect only the highest quality of work from you, and I don’t think this fan edit will disappoint.
LOL that is probably the gentlest way to put the absolute most pressure on me possible 😃
Seriously though, Thank you, man! And hopefully this works for most folks, although if some of the choices do not work for some viewers, hopefully it can become the base for some “half-ass” edits for other folks! In the reddit version of this thread, the reinstatement of Bor Gullet (which is a thing that’s happening here) has caused some “hmmmmmm’s” to pop out - which I get!
But also, I figure at this point, what made Bor Gullet cuttable in 2017 is not as applicable in 2025. When the movie came out, all we knew of Saw was The Clone Wars and a Rebels appearance? So him being a complete wackjob with a pet beanbag monster was… WAY out there. But now? Oh, Saw Gerrera drooling and shouting and taking massive hits of Rhydo is extreeeemely in character, LOL. Plus now Bodhi’s defection/capture is one 3 minute sequence, it’s not cut up and spread around the first half of the movie anymore.
It was easy to understand that Saw had Bor Gullet because he’s crazy. Not everyone knows or cares about Filoni shows. The problem is more that Bor Gullet doesn’t do anything. It temporarily messes with Bodhi and then nothing happens, he gets over it right away and there are no lasting changes to the plot.
Definitely agree, @Vladius.
I believe it was an addition during the reshoots. I feel that the higher-ups said “Wait… we don’t have a creepy alien/monster, add one in!”
The Star Wars Saga:
I · II · III · IV · V · VI · VII · VIII · IX | Rogue One · Solo
What was first just a dream has become a frightening reality…
In the theatrical I agree it seemed like he got Bor Gullet’d and then took a nap and was good, LOL.
But I think placing the now-3min sequence between Rings of Kafrene and Krennic meeting Tarkin, the movie-time between Saw being a giant weirdo (and Mon underlining that through dialog about 6min later) and Cassian/Chirrut/Baze finding him during Galen’s message, the “getting over it right away” doesn’t actually feel like that anymore: Instead of checking back in with Bodhi every 6-7min, now he’s getting absolutely screwed by the Partisans in one intense 3min glut (if this was a reshoot then this is Gilroy work, which makes a little more sense as to why it fits butted up against the Andor/Tivik scene that was also straight Gilroy work) then Tarkin talks about him, then the Alliance talks about him, then we see the Empire flipping Jedha upside down for him, and when we finally see him again outside of the one hologram on the street, it’s about 30min later and he’s mumbling to himself about being the Pilot.
Since my aim is trying to rebalance tone and characterization in the context of Andor being released & Rogue One having aged 7 years, that Bor Gullet is not as plot important (and you’re 100% right, it never was!) isn’t a big deal I don’t think. The focus for me is more on what introducing Saw fully before the Alliance does for that tone, and poking at how what he’ll do to Bodhi (and how Bodhi will endure it) will feel like for post-Andor rewatchers. Can I heighten what’s happening without overtly bringing in references FROM that show; but calling that feel to mind through reshaping all those scenes into one sequence by cutting for pacing/performance.
That doesn’t change anything. If anything that makes it worse, because you would expect it to have more lasting effects if you think he’s getting tortured for longer.
Well, I don’t think he’s getting tortured for longer, I think he gets chucked in the cell right after the scene ends. I’ve never read it as Saw’s got him plugged into the mindreading ballsack the whole time 😃 Also nothing says Saw’s not bs’ing him a little either. Saw’s on that Rhydo. He says a lotta things, haha.
But since it’s a tone thing, not a plot thing for me, the only real argument I think I can make for it, is if it plays in the context of the cut! But if it doesn’t, the fact I’ve got it consolidated into a single 3-min sequence should make it super-easy to lift right out for folks who prefer a more plot-oriented POV on the edit!
I still think Bor Gullet feels out of place. Sometimes “show don’t tell” isn’t always the right approach.
Hal’s edit handles the Bodhi stuff quite well, with us meeting Bodhi for the first time in the prison cell and him being less out of it.
However, if you’d want to reinstate some stuff to include more Saw:
By cutting this way, Bor Gullet is removed, and the assumption is instead that Saw was the one that did something to him to jack his head up so badly. I think that works to make Saw seem even crazier if that is your goal.
The Star Wars Saga:
I · II · III · IV · V · VI · VII · VIII · IX | Rogue One · Solo
What was first just a dream has become a frightening reality…
On balance, I’d take the slight detour with squiddy over the confusion caused by Bohdi’s changed mental state. Doesn’t seem problematic enough to cut.
There’s already multiple edits available that cut Bo Gullet and there’s likely many more coming. I love that crazy scene and I’m glad it’s being kept in.
Question: did you rip Ryan Golden’s VO straight from YouTube?
“The Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.”
-Sheev Palpatine, Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith (2005)
Yup! I don’t think there’s any other way to get it. I used yt-dlp, grabbed the highest bitrate possible, converted it to the proper framerate, retimed it, and had to re-edit to fit the scene proper since the scene as uploaded to youtube is also slightly edited IIRC. While I was in there doing all that and converting it to mono for the center channel mixing I added a little bit of extra processing to nudge it a LITTLE closer to taste towards 1977 Vader.
Is there a better source available? I honestly didn’t mind that the YouTube source was what it was in this instance since 77 Vader isn’t exactly hi-fi sounding in the first place.
Presumably you have heard this voice adjustment. https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1Bp9Z3wbEj/
I’ll replace this post with the deets and the “you can download now, please don’t just beg for links, it makes everyone sad, DM me instead”
Good luck with that.
Presumably you have heard this voice adjustment. https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1Bp9Z3wbEj/
I haven’t! I don’t have facebook and clicking that link brings me to a locked page.
I’m familiar with a guy named Canadian Vader on YouTube as well - his style is, to cite the Beastie Boys, slower and lower in general. It’s a good impersonation, but I prefer the Golden performance of that scene.
I also haven’t been able to find anyone doing anything with “Prepare a boarding party” but that ended up being a non-issue because that scene is mostly cut in this Special Edition anyway.
I can’t see it posted elsewhere. It was a blending of the Rogue One vocal performance and an AI reconstruction of Peter Cushing’s voice. It’s very evocative.
Presumably you have heard this voice adjustment. https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1Bp9Z3wbEj/
Link’s broken. 🥲
“The Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.”
-Sheev Palpatine, Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith (2005)
Presumably you have heard this voice adjustment. https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1Bp9Z3wbEj/
Link’s broken. 🥲
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/19WwhfhthF/
Dunno if that’s made a difference. It could be closed off to faceboot users only. I can’t find another link.
I can click on the previous link and it opens. Probably some Meta shenigans.
I appreciate the reach out anyway though, thanks! I’m okay with keeping Guy Henry’s vocal performance as-is, I’ve already trimmed down some of Tarkin’s lines in this cut anyway.
The other thing that jumped out at me that I don’t think I noticed as much on previous watches - I mean I noticed it, but I don’t think I noticed how much of it was still hanging around - there was obviously an edit of this movie where Cassian and Jyn clearly have a much flirtier relationship that culminates with kissyface in that elevator on Scarif. In the original cut, nothing actually happens in the elevator (in this Special Edition I’ve simply gotten rid of the elevator ride altogether) but there are still like three or four weird moments setting that up still orphaned in the theatrical cut.
Now, seeing as Bix is a real thing and we know where she is and who she’s holding in a wheat field somewhere, none of that can stay. But it was interesting seeing how much of the theatrical cut seemed to tie Jyn’s maturation as a character and getting over her dads’ abandonment of her, into her suddenly wanting to make out with Cassian.
Editing Jyn was interesting: I found a lot of what improves Jyn’s character came from trimming out the more demonstrative and overtly smartass moments (i.e. curtseying and “I appreciate the support” after Cassian volunteers, for example) and doing way more with how expressive Jones is as an actor. The weakest part of her character was her putting up a front anyway. It was always unbelievable, and nobody in those scenes ever really believed it, so why keep any of that stuff? She’s wounded but earnest, and that’s what’s on her face, and that’s what comes through. And if this cut is trying to be a better bridge between Andor and Star Wars, this version of Jyn hopefully works better as a midway point between Cassian and Luke Skywalker, too. I’m aiming for a little more openly earnest, but still scuffed up and pissed off. The key difference is that she believes to a degree Cassian just can’t.
The crimey wiseass doesn’t play, and she drops it as soon as anyone pokes her hard enough in the eye so… just skip to the part where she’s being angrily earnest in the first place. Less fronting, less words, more emoting, better pace. Less lines, and more room to read between them, I guess.
A less is more approach to Jyn sounds good to me. Jones is clearly a talented actress, but the script really doesn’t seem to know what to do with her.
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/19WwhfhthF/
Dunno if that’s made a difference. It could be closed off to faceboot users only. I can’t find another link.
I can click on the previous link and it opens. Probably some Meta shenigans.
Bloody Meta! 😭
“The Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.”
-Sheev Palpatine, Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith (2005)
Please don’t cut the “Are you serious, I’m blind” line for Donnie Yen. That was the one line I remember everyone laughing at when I saw it in theatres in 2016.
I did not cut it!
Well, I did not cut ALL of it. It’s sort of like in Spectre how you only needed “And now we know what C stands for.”
Him deadpanning “Are you kidding me?” is legitimately funny.
I think I’m locked at a final running time of 2:06:12
EDIT IS NOW AVAILABLE
PRIMARY CHANGES: As usual, the sheer number of edits/microedits for pacing and to remove redundant/awkward dialog beats would make a complete changelist pretty exhausting to look at, but the bigger alterations will get noted below (and in cases where changes from prior fanedits remained as the edit evolved, the original edit will be named)
Notes on keeping Darth Vader: This is one of the scenes I feel actually is enriched by Andor Season 2, even if it was primarily received as fanservice at the time. Firstly, as plot - Vader’s threats are why Krennic goes to Scarif and orders up all of Erso’s planning papers. But dramatically/thematically - Krennic in Season 2 tends to be deployed as THE self-consuming fascist ceiling Dedra Meero is going to smash against in the Empire. She’s going to get greedy for power, get manipulated, try to end-run that manipulation, and get ruined for it. Krennic does so with ONE finger. And in this movie, Krennic finds out he’s got a ceiling, too. Tarkin - amidst HIS achievement (!) - takes his project after over a decade, he tries to end-run Tarkin, and Vader, without even putting a finger on him, shows him how disposable he is, and maneuvers him straight to the place where he dies. It’s like poetry. It rhymes. Now where have I heard that before…