^ That’s the gist of why restoring the wall is a good idea. Too many Special Edition changes created errors in continuity and/or look terrible because ILM was experimenting.
Also, ROTJ helmets remind me of this:
It sucks that they were the look Lucasfilm went with in the SE.
I can’t believe I didn’t cover the dead end/hanger in my Wired article. In short, they had a hanger in 1976, they had stormtroopers, they could have done this if that was the plan. The same two troopers wearing the wrong helmet copy and pasted a hundred times was just proving that they could to this for the prequels if they wanted to for clones. Cutting the existing troopers out without the help of a bluescreen was a test to see if they needed to depend on bluescreens for the prequels. It’s a bad idea poorly executed only added to test prequel technology, just like most of the other SE changes.
OMG thats sooooo cool, haha it would be so funny to imagine hundreds of clones just coping 2 or three peoples actions over and over. Your link doesn’t work btw
“But they had to make the clones CGI! They all needed to be the same size!”
proof that they could’ve just had a guy in a clone costume and then used CGI to copy-paste them a million times from George Lucas himself
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I can’t believe I didn’t cover the dead end/hanger in my Wired article. In short, they had a hanger in 1976, they had stormtroopers, they could have done this if that was the plan. The same two troopers wearing the wrong helmet copy and pasted a hundred times was just proving that they could to this for the prequels if they wanted to for clones. Cutting the existing troopers out without the help of a bluescreen was a test to see if they needed to depend on bluescreens for the prequels. It’s a bad idea poorly executed only added to test prequel technology, just like most of the other SE changes.
OMG thats sooooo cool, haha it would be so funny to imagine hundreds of clones just coping 2 or three peoples actions over and over. Your link doesn’t work btw
Fixed the link.
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The shot looks great, Ady! 👍
In short, they had a hanger in 1976, they had stormtroopers, they could have done this if that was the plan.
Exactly. The idea that it was shot like this because of technical limitations is bogus. George wrote in the script that Han chases the stormtroopers to a dead end, and that’s what was shot.
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I don’t know if Adywan ever added this, but did anyone ever mention making Leia cry after the destruction of Alderaan? I mean, put tears streaming down her face and stuff. I don’t know if it’s possible to do this with the available scenes.
I don’t know if Adywan ever added this, but did anyone ever mention making Leia cry after the destruction of Alderaan? I mean, put tears streaming down her face and stuff. I don’t know if it’s possible to do this with the available scenes.
Hmm… That would be pretty damn cool.
-TGWNN
I don’t know if Adywan ever added this, but did anyone ever mention making Leia cry after the destruction of Alderaan? I mean, put tears streaming down her face and stuff. I don’t know if it’s possible to do this with the available scenes.
Hmm… That would be pretty damn cool.
The 1980 radio series had her screaming and weeping.
I am a kite dancing in a hurricane …
Yeah, the idea came to me after I reread the ANH manga. This manga is excellent because improves some aspects of the story with very subtle details, like this one of Leia crying after the explosion of Alderaan.
Watching an Anime of a New Hope would be a guilty pleasure. The Lightsaber fights would be intense
Watching an Anime of a New Hope would be a guilty pleasure. The Lightsaber fights would be intense
The name’s Lawson. Noah Lawson.
Watching an Anime of a New Hope would be a guilty pleasure. The Lightsaber fights would be intense
The prequels already reached a very intense type of battles, the anime is not very graphic when they want to turn Star Wars into an anime
Mmm, a Star Wars anime doesn’t fit, attempts to turn Star Wars into anime always fall into the typical clichés, highly stylized eyes to make everyone look Japanese, Darth Vader too fat, or Luke looking like a big eyed kid whose sole purpose is to freak out like everything is cool, it doesn’t fit at all, if they make an anime adaptation of Star Wars, it shouldn’t look like an anime, it should have more JoJo’s style animation or something that really sets it apart from the rest, not a blatant copy of My Hero Academia with Star Wars characters.
Watching the opening scenes on another thread reminded me of this and forgive me if I’ve already posted it. When the Tantive 4 is being pulled in to the hanger of the Devastator you can hear what sounds like the docking claw scrape the hull and then the film cuts to an exterior shot and the claw hasn’t made contact. If the shots were resequenced you could have the exterior followed by the interior and the scraping sound would carry more impact. Maybe the claw could be slightly animated like its opening in readiness for the ship. Also could Threepio just say “There will be no escape this time”? I’m sure there is a wookiepedia page devoted to why he pretends not to know who Leia is to Luke but he doesn’t need to mention the Princess anyway as she is mentioned in the crawl.
Watching the opening scenes on another thread reminded me of this and forgive me if I’ve already posted it. When the Tantive 4 us being pulled in to the hanger of the Devastator you can hear what sounds like the docking claw scrape the hull and then the film cuts to an exterior shot and the claw hasn’t made contact. If the shots were resequenced you could have the exterior followed by the interior and the scraping sound would carry more impact. Maybe the claw could be slightly animated like its opening in readiness for the ship. Also could Threepio just say “There will be no escape this time”? I’m sure there is a wookiepedia page devoted to why he pretends not to know who Leia is to Luke but he doesn’t need to mention the Princess anyway as she is mentioned in the crawl.
All of these changes not only have been confirmed, but have already been done:
https://youtu.be/O6mA1U3lUVc?si=LlDM1Ceh9Gewn3Aj
this is a reupload (ady’s original post was taken down), and whoever reuploaded it upscaled it to 4K, but it’s still intact.
-TGWNN
That version still has the sound of the clamps and then the ship moving into the hangar, so Bingo’s point still stands I think.
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That version still has the sound of the clamps and then the ship moving into the hangar, so Bingo’s point still stands I think.
Adywan adjusted the clamps in a later shot to match what the sounds infer:
-TGWNN
It was the timing of the sound and the sequential timing of the exterior and interior shots I was more concerned about. But it is nice to know some of these things are happening. It certainly flows better. That’s what I like about Ady’s work at its best its invisible without comparison because it feels like it should have been that way in the first place.
It was the timing of the sound and the sequential timing of the exterior and interior shots I was more concerned about.
Yeah, Threepio says ‘What’s that?’ and we hear distant sounds of metal on metal, as if it was those clamps locking onto the ship. Then we see the Rebels looking up and more of those distant metal clanging sounds. However, the next shot is still the ship being pulled into the Star Destroyer hangar with no hint that anything has physically interacted with the ship. We then hear more sounds, this time presumably the sounds of an umbilical passage being brought to the Tantive’s hatch, then the Tantive hatch is sliced with lasers.
The problem here is that the shot of the ship being pulled into the docking bay is out of place. It seems like it should go after Threepio says ‘This is madness!’. Then there would be no exterior shots of what is happening, and the viewer would be left to imagine it based on the sounds within the ship.
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It was the timing of the sound and the sequential timing of the exterior and interior shots I was more concerned about.
Yeah, Threepio says ‘What’s that?’ and we hear distant sounds of metal on metal, as if it was those clamps locking onto the ship. Then we see the Rebels looking up and more of those distant metal clanging sounds. However, the next shot is still the ship being pulled into the Star Destroyer hangar with no hint that anything has physically interacted with the ship. We then hear more sounds, this time presumably the sounds of an umbilical passage being brought to the Tantive’s hatch, then the Tantive hatch is sliced with lasers.
The problem here is that the shot of the ship being pulled into the docking bay is out of place. It seems like it should go after Threepio says ‘This is madness!’. Then there would be no exterior shots of what is happening, and the viewer would be left to imagine it based on the sounds within the ship.
I always assumed it was the hull of the ship creaking because of the tractor beam and perhaps some blast doors in the Tantive being forced shut to slow down the inevitable boarding of the vessel by troops. In universe, a tractor beam would seem like a powerful type of energy to do such a thing. In Andor season 1 when Luthen is being pulled by the Imperial Cantwell-class Arrestor Cruiser (I had to look that up), you also hear metal thuds and creaks as he is trying to escape their tractor beam. Just my view on it, of course.
That’s what I am forced to assume as well based on context, but listening to it again, those sounds sure sound like something hitting the hull rather than the groan of stressed metal. For most movies, I would be willing to give this a pass, but this is Ben Burtt we’re talking about.
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When the Falcon is caught in the tractor beam the ship shakes but only while they fight it. Once the engines are off it stops and as Threepio on the Tantive says ,“They shut down the main reactor” before the scratching sound. It would require a music cue change to work. But it might be doable.
Yeah, changing up the shots totally screws up the music’s pacing.
It would change it. As to screwing it up, the proof of that pudding would be in the tasting.
Watching the opening scenes on another thread reminded me of this and forgive me if I’ve already posted it. When the Tantive 4 is being pulled in to the hanger of the Devastator you can hear what sounds like the docking claw scrape the hull and then the film cuts to an exterior shot and the claw hasn’t made contact. If the shots were resequenced you could have the exterior followed by the interior and the scraping sound would carry more impact. Maybe the claw could be slightly animated like its opening in readiness for the ship. Also could Threepio just say “There will be no escape this time”? I’m sure there is a wookiepedia page devoted to why he pretends not to know who Leia is to Luke but he doesn’t need to mention the Princess anyway as she is mentioned in the crawl.
3P0’s line has already been changed to " there’ll be no escape this time" ever since my original edit. The audio on the clips i post of the HD version are always just a temp track because that would be the last thing that i work on after i have finished the video side of things. As for the matter of the sound of something like a clamp attaching to the ship before its even been pulled in, i thought i had mentioned a long time ago that i would be tackling that ( but i may have fogot its been so long now). Anyway i had finished re-editing that scene last year. Very tricky to do though because of where to be able to cut the music cues for it to work, which is impossible to do without editing the music then getting the visuals to work with the new edit and then rebuild all the dialogue and foley FX. I have only done a very rough audio track to see if it would work so far and will be polishing it up for the final release