It’s honestly kinda scary how realistic this sounds when put together:
It’s honestly kinda scary how realistic this sounds when put together:
Wow! AI is amazing but scary at the same time. 👍
The Star Wars Saga:
I · II · III · IV · V · VI · VII · VIII · IX | Rogue One · Solo
What was first just a dream has become a frightening reality…
It’s honestly kinda scary how realistic this sounds when put together:
That is just outstanding!
Wow that is amazing! It’s so seamless
I… am at loss for words. 😨
“The Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.”
-Sheev Palpatine, Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith (2005)
Here is a shared Drive folder where I will deposit all the lines that we will need:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1r8jg3jEzeWVa3itr9wr8g8VX_3gNx0Iz?usp=sharing
And here is the final lesson line in practice (it’s in the Drive now):
Luke: “Because you’re a Palpatine?”
Start next line when it cuts to Rey’s expression
Luke: “Here is my final lesson Rey, some things are stronger than blood.”
The Star Wars Saga:
I · II · III · IV · V · VI · VII · VIII · IX | Rogue One · Solo
What was first just a dream has become a frightening reality…
While that would work better in terms of sentence structure, I believe the goal here was to replicate his style of introducing lessons from TLJ.
“Lesson one. The Force is not a power you have…”
“Lesson two. Now that they’re extinct, the Jedi are romanticized, deified…”
Hal 9000 said:
For the Leia training flashback, Leia’s face displays some emotion so I don’t think it would fit to just say she decided to go with her political career; there should be something there but I’m not sure what. >
I honestly don’t see any problems. She knows being a jedi means a great deal to Luke, to her father’s legacy and to the galaxy overall, so it would be very natural and expected that she’d had some massive inner conflict about “abandoning” the jedi path to follow a political career.
While that would work better in terms of sentence structure, I believe the goal here was to replicate his style of introducing lessons from TLJ.
“Lesson one. The Force is not a power you have…”
“Lesson two. Now that they’re extinct, the Jedi are romanticized, deified…”
In that context, I think the line might read better as:
Luke: “Rey, lesson three. Some things are stronger than blood.”
The Star Wars Saga:
I · II · III · IV · V · VI · VII · VIII · IX | Rogue One · Solo
What was first just a dream has become a frightening reality…
Hal 9000 said:
For the Leia training flashback, Leia’s face displays some emotion so I don’t think it would fit to just say she decided to go with her political career; there should be something there but I’m not sure what. >I honestly don’t see any problems. She knows being a jedi means a great deal to Luke, to her father’s legacy and to the galaxy overall, so it would be very natural and expected that she’d had some massive inner conflict about “abandoning” the jedi path to follow a political career.
+1 to all this
While that would work better in terms of sentence structure, I believe the goal here was to replicate his style of introducing lessons from TLJ.
“Lesson one. The Force is not a power you have…”
“Lesson two. Now that they’re extinct, the Jedi are romanticized, deified…”
In that context, I think the line might read better as:
Luke: “Rey, lesson three. Some things are stronger than blood.”
I also don’t necessarily want him to use the word “three” because those three lessons were about why the Jedi ought to end. This lesson is encouraging her to be a Jedi.
Brilliant, DZ! 👍
“The Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.”
-Sheev Palpatine, Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith (2005)
I’m dumbstruck by these clips and ideas. DZ and JJB are on a roll here. I don’t even dare interject. Don’t disturb genius at work.
I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently.
And here is the final lesson line in practice (it’s in the Drive now):
I like it! But, I’d suggest cutting out that “Rey” so it just goes like “Final lesson… [rest of dialogue]”. I think it would flow more better.
Exactly my thought, and why I think he should say “Rey” first.
Luke: “Rey, final lesson, some things are stronger than blood.”
The Star Wars Saga:
I · II · III · IV · V · VI · VII · VIII · IX | Rogue One · Solo
What was first just a dream has become a frightening reality…
I think the big issue with Leia choosing politics over being a Jedi is that it comes off as a terribly foolish decision. In the end, diplomacy failed; by the time we meet her in TFA she’s leading an underground militia, and her sole hope lies on Luke’s return to help in the fight. You’d think she would be beating herself up for quitting her training all those years ago, mastery over the Force would’ve been a lot more helpful against the First Order than her diplomatic skills. Moreover, if she had completed her training, she could’ve taught her son herself instead of sending him away, thus preventing the fall of Luke’s temple and even the fall of Ben Solo.
The only reasonable way Leia can be justified in not becoming a Jedi is if she had to, not just because she felt like it. This is what the original does, but in a really dumb way, that’s why we landed on simply having her sense that she was not meant to go down that path. Maybe with this new A.I. we can generate a line that helps this come across better, but I still think this is the idea we need to lean on.
That is the problem with the sequels as a whole. Terrible writing. But at least this line of thinking with her in politics makes some sense.
Luke fails as a Jedi
Han fails as a leader
Leia fails as a politician
The Star Wars Saga:
I · II · III · IV · V · VI · VII · VIII · IX | Rogue One · Solo
What was first just a dream has become a frightening reality…
Exactly my thought, and why I think he should say “Rey” first.
Luke: “Rey, final lesson, some things are stronger than blood.”
It’s hard to extract “Rey” from this scene because a lot of music is in the center channel. This is beyond my abilities, unfortunately.
Ideally, what should be able to happen is his line is muted there and then an AI generated version of “Rey…” is placed before or the original line is simply shifted over (with its background noise removed).
I think the big issue with Leia choosing politics over being a Jedi is that it comes off as a terribly foolish decision. In the end, diplomacy failed; by the time we meet her in TFA she’s leading an underground militia, and her sole hope lies on Luke’s return to help in the fight.
Well, that’s… the whole point of the sequel trilogy though, isn’t it? All three legacy characters (Luke, Han, Leia) failed miserably after RotJ. I don’t think anyone likes the direction they took with the story, but unless we rewrite and reshoot the entire three films, what can we do…
This is mostly just an issue with TROS since there was never any indication in the previous films that Leia had been trained as a Jedi, other than the space walk in TLJ and even that’s a stretch.
It would be an interesting angle if Leia’s decision was portrayed as a failure, but this is supposed to be a hopeful scene, “Leia failed the galaxy and doomed us all by choosing a career in politics” doesn’t fit a scene that is supposed to restore Rey’s spirit. To be fair neither does a premonition of death but that’s why we removed that bit.
I think Luke’s “There’s something my sister would want you to have” fixes that though. Leia failed, but her faith is in Rey to make things right and continue the path she should have but chose not to.
The Star Wars Saga:
I · II · III · IV · V · VI · VII · VIII · IX | Rogue One · Solo
What was first just a dream has become a frightening reality…
I think the big issue with Leia choosing politics over being a Jedi is that it comes off as a terribly foolish decision. In the end, diplomacy failed; by the time we meet her in TFA she’s leading an underground militia, and her sole hope lies on Luke’s return to help in the fight.
I don’t think anyone likes the direction they took with the story
You must not get out a lot
This is mostly just an issue with TROS since there was never any indication in the previous films that Leia had been trained as a Jedi, other than the space walk in TLJ and even that’s a stretch.
It would be an interesting angle if Leia’s decision was portrayed as a failure, but this is supposed to be a hopeful scene, “Leia failed the galaxy and doomed us all by choosing a career in politics” doesn’t fit a scene that is supposed to restore Rey’s spirit. To be fair neither does a premonition of death but that’s why we removed that bit.
I don’t think this dialogue really invites you to think of it as a failure, it’s not really saying anything we don’t already know/suspect about her (since TFA really, because we know she must have made that choice after Luke revealed her potential). Which I think is kind of the goal, it’s maybe a bit much to add some Leia lore (with premonitions or something) when there’s not really any time to explore its implications.
Arguably, leaving it the way it is creates a lot of questions that I had never considered before. Like, if Leia DID fully complete her training (it being the last night of her training when she quit) why didn’t she simply become a Jedi again when it was clear that Luke wasn’t coming back on his own? Ya know, instead of just being another general?
Stuck between a rock and a hard place. I think I agree with everyone else that we just have to acknowledge Disney’s approach in the sequels was to have all the old heroes fail so the new ones could shine. Which is dumb, but there’s nothing we can do about that.
It would be an interesting angle if Leia’s decision was portrayed as a failure, but this is supposed to be a hopeful scene, “Leia failed the galaxy and doomed us all by choosing a career in politics” doesn’t fit a scene that is supposed to restore Rey’s spirit. To be fair neither does a premonition of death but that’s why we removed that bit.>
I really don’t see it that way. She chose the path she honestly thought it was the best for her and for everyone. Her mother’s path. And she spent some three decades fighting her good fight, I’m sure she made tremendous good for countless lives around the galaxy while being a politician.
In the end, because of circumstances completely out of her control, things got out of hand. How does that make her a failure in any way, shape or form?
Also, this is NOT being implied by the AI, this IS the canon, she DID chose to be a politician instead of a jedi. AI would be merely trying to make a better sense out of it. I think changing that would be beyond aggressive fan-fiction, and that’s quite NOT what Hal9000’s edits are all about.