If you feel conflicted or don’t care, you can say that too.
I wish he hadn’t, but also, I’m not entirely sure which corporation I would trust with the IP. Ultimately though, most of the issues with modern Star Wars aren’t because of Disney (though Disney certainly doesn’t help). They’re because of internal shifts and dysfunction within Lucasfilm itself.
But we can’t turn back. Fear is their greatest defense. I doubt if the actual security there is any greater than it was on Aquilae or Sullust. And what there is is most likely directed towards a large-scale assault.
I wish Lucas had released his IPs into the public domain and made an effort to convert Lucasfilm into a worker co-op.
“The Anarchists are right in everything; in the negation of the existing order and in the assertion that, without Authority there could not be worse violence than that of Authority under existing conditions. They are mistaken only in thinking that anarchy can be instituted by a violent revolution… There can be only one permanent revolution — a moral one: the regeneration of the inner man. How is this revolution to take place? Nobody knows how it will take place in humanity, but every man feels it clearly in himself. And yet in our world everybody thinks of changing humanity, and nobody thinks of changing himself.”
― Leo Tolstoy
I wish Lucas had released his IPs into the public domain and made an effort to convert Lucasfilm into a worker co-op.
That’s the correct answer.
Personally I think George should have sold Lucasfilm either to Universal or Warner Bros. Based on my observations there seems to be a lot more creative freedom on those studios, and my biggest problem with Disney Star Wars is that Disney’s iron grip on the creative decisions is very palpable.
I wish Lucas had released his IPs into the public domain and made an effort to convert Lucasfilm into a worker co-op.
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I did think when George sold Lucasfilm we’d be experiencing many divergent views, interpretations and points of views in the Star Wars story sandbox. Instead, there is a reluctance, maybe even a fear, to go too far away from playing it safe. Or “George’s vision” or “playing with action figures” as the excuse has become.
TLJ, for its faults, tried. Visions and Andor is what many fans would like too have seen years ago, i think. Hopefully Acolyte and Dawn of the Jedi follow that independent “unbeholden to George” vibe.
Am I glad George sold Lucasfilm to Disney? Well he sold out his own “independent” and “anti-film corp” way of doing things with that decision. Though from the Charlie Rose “White Slavers” interview he didn’t seem to have a high opinion of them. Plus, Disney’s history on this seems to be “profit over risk, rinse and repeat”
At least we didn’t get to see George retcon his own stories further with his latest vision for the Sequel films that would have made Leia as being “The Chosen One” instead of Anakin. Instead we get Favreau and Filoni retconning the EU instead.
So, I am glad he sold up, just not to Disney.
Am I glad George sold Lucasfilm to Disney? Well he sold out his own “independent” and “anti-film corp” way of doing things with that decision. Though from the Charlie Rose “White Slavers” interview he didn’t seem to have a high opinion of them. Plus, Disney’s history on this seems to be “profit over risk, rinse and repeat”
At least we didn’t get to see George retcon his own stories further with his latest vision for the Sequel films that would have made Leia as being “The Chosen One” instead of Anakin. Instead we get Favreau and Filoni retconning the EU instead.
So, I am glad he sold up, just not to Disney.
I’m more or less with this. Realistically, I’d have preferred to have seen George sell to a more independent company, with a background in taking risks with their projects. As fmalover posted above, companies with more creative freedom.
Ideally, it would have been great to see how Lucasfilm would have done as a worker owned co-op. With Lucasfilm not having to answer, or compromise with, anyone else.
Am I glad George sold Lucasfilm to Disney? Well he sold out his own “independent” and “anti-film corp” way of doing things with that decision. Though from the Charlie Rose “White Slavers” interview he didn’t seem to have a high opinion of them. Plus, Disney’s history on this seems to be “profit over risk, rinse and repeat”
At least we didn’t get to see George retcon his own stories further with his latest vision for the Sequel films that would have made Leia as being “The Chosen One” instead of Anakin. Instead we get Favreau and Filoni retconning the EU instead.
So, I am glad he sold up, just not to Disney.
I’m more or less with this. Realistically, I’d have preferred to have seen George sell to a more independent company, with a background in taking risks with their projects. As fmalover posted above, companies with more creative freedom.
Ideally, it would have been great to see how Lucasfilm would have done as a worker owned co-op. With Lucasfilm not having to answer, or compromise with, anyone else.
What you’re suggesting is pretty much what Francis Ford Coppola was trying to do with American Zoetrope.
Am I glad George sold Lucasfilm to Disney? Well he sold out his own “independent” and “anti-film corp” way of doing things with that decision. Though from the Charlie Rose “White Slavers” interview he didn’t seem to have a high opinion of them. Plus, Disney’s history on this seems to be “profit over risk, rinse and repeat”
At least we didn’t get to see George retcon his own stories further with his latest vision for the Sequel films that would have made Leia as being “The Chosen One” instead of Anakin. Instead we get Favreau and Filoni retconning the EU instead.
So, I am glad he sold up, just not to Disney.
I’m more or less with this. Realistically, I’d have preferred to have seen George sell to a more independent company, with a background in taking risks with their projects. As fmalover posted above, companies with more creative freedom.
Ideally, it would have been great to see how Lucasfilm would have done as a worker owned co-op. With Lucasfilm not having to answer, or compromise with, anyone else.
What you’re suggesting is pretty much what Francis Ford Coppola was trying to do with American Zoetrope.
and with George too, at one time?
I wish Lucas had released his IPs into the public domain and made an effort to convert Lucasfilm into a worker co-op.
💯! I’d love to see that just for LucasArts to have still been a thing all these years. All the quality games, instead of deals with EA, lootboxes, and a scarcity of games for a long long time.
Also to see Lucasfilm strive and challenge themselves more in film and TV, within their own independent ethos.
Anybody have a time machine, or know of a genie that grants wishes for these things?
The Imperial need for control is so desperate because it is so unnatural. Tyranny requires constant effort. It breaks, it leaks. Authority is brittle. Oppression is the mask of fear.
Am I glad George sold Lucasfilm to Disney? Well he sold out his own “independent” and “anti-film corp” way of doing things with that decision. Though from the Charlie Rose “White Slavers” interview he didn’t seem to have a high opinion of them. Plus, Disney’s history on this seems to be “profit over risk, rinse and repeat”
At least we didn’t get to see George retcon his own stories further with his latest vision for the Sequel films that would have made Leia as being “The Chosen One” instead of Anakin. Instead we get Favreau and Filoni retconning the EU instead.
So, I am glad he sold up, just not to Disney.
I’m more or less with this. Realistically, I’d have preferred to have seen George sell to a more independent company, with a background in taking risks with their projects. As fmalover posted above, companies with more creative freedom.
Ideally, it would have been great to see how Lucasfilm would have done as a worker owned co-op. With Lucasfilm not having to answer, or compromise with, anyone else.
What you’re suggesting is pretty much what Francis Ford Coppola was trying to do with American Zoetrope.
Isn’t that more of a Coppola co-op (which is still cool), more than a general workers co-op?
Or has it changed or evolved to include more workers as part of the co-op?
I’m glad he sold in a way and also upset they won’t continue Legends as a separate timeline.
I’m not going to pretend i wouldn’t have watched Lucas sequels had they been made. I’m also not going to pretend the idea of Darth Maul as the big bad wasn’t a stupid idea, and bringing in Darth Taalon from the EU. Lazy and hamfisted.
Leia leading the New Republic sounds awesome. Han being a leader in the rebellion sounds great, Luke training new Jedi cool. Just not the training younglings thing. And the worst aspect Whills and Midichlorians, why?
I wish he hadn’t and I wouldn’t want anyone to make any more official stuff either. Maybe a separate reboot EU continuity so that people could tell new stories in the EU without worrying about canon.
I wish he’d made the sequels so that all this current hubbub was consistent instead of being full of retroactive appreciation.
I wish he’d made the sequels so that all this current hubbub was consistent instead of being full of retroactive appreciation.
Seeing a great number of Prequel fans having “The Chosen One” or “The Prophecy” be retconned to now being Leia, and not Anakin, would be something to see too!
I am surprised there isn’t an AI/ChatGPT version of George’s Sequel Trilogy already out there.
The Imperial need for control is so desperate because it is so unnatural. Tyranny requires constant effort. It breaks, it leaks. Authority is brittle. Oppression is the mask of fear.
Formerly Emre1601 - computer hard drives are brittle too!
I wish he’d made the sequels so that all this current hubbub was consistent instead of being full of retroactive appreciation.
Seeing a great number of Prequel fans having “The Chosen One” or “The Prophecy” be retconned to now being Leia, and not Anakin, would be something to see too!
I am surprised there isn’t an AI/ChatGPT version of George’s Sequel Trilogy already out there.
I wonder if George would have been able to go through with that idea after Carrie Fisher died.
I think it was very mature and noble of Lucas to explicitly pass on the torch like this, to let other people tell stories in this universe in a more high profile manner as opposed to just EU comics and books. Don’t care for most of what’s been released since the sell, and the biggest offenders to me are the very much cash grabs VII - IX (wish they were never made, very much products of someone else having SW now and doing the more obvious thing that would make money) while the stuff I like most comes from old Lucas concepts and scripts (Underworld turned into R1, Mandalorian, Andor, Lucas having developed Bad Batch, etc.) but I understand that’s not where his heart was at anymore, and I totally get it. He definitely deserves the rest and I’m glad he was able to put all of this behind him.
Yes, I am.
The sequel trilogy we got is still better then George’s. Maul being the villain has the same problem as Palpatine; you have to learn how he survived through supplemental material, in this case TCW. Talon is an uninteresting character; it’s just the femme fatale archetype, which is one of my least favorite tropes ever. Talon seducing Skylar (who became Ben Solo) to the dark side with her sexiness makes TROS look good. And retconning Leia to be the Chosen One is dumb. I prefer Palpatine coming back for like a day and immediately being killed by Rey with the help of a bunch of force ghosts then a part of Anakin/Vader’s character arc being a lie. My least favorite trope of all time is when you take a previous character, whether it be a hero or villain, and make them look insignificant by taking everything away from them and giving it to another character (like the trope of retconning a previous villain to be a pawn of another). And this is exactly that, and it’s done Vader, my favorite character of all time.
With Disney we got the Vader comics, which is already enough, as the Vader 2017 comic run are my favorite Star Wars material after the OT, and 2015 run comes after Mandalorian and Clone Wars. Disney has done a much better job with Darth Vader then Lucasfilm.
We have The Mandalorian which is such an enjoyable series. The Force Awakens and Rogue One were vital to getting me back into Star Wars in the first place. I watched the original 6 films when I was young, but if it wasn’t for the new movies, I probably would’ve gone years without rewatching them and it would’ve taken me much longer to be the fan I am today.
Has anyone heard those rumours of Disney being so bankrupt now they’re considering selling back? HIGHLY doubt that would happen but I’ve seen some articles on it.
You’ll laugh! You’ll cry! You’ll kiss three bucks goodbye!
Has anyone heard those rumours of Disney being so bankrupt now they’re considering selling back? HIGHLY doubt that would happen but I’ve seen some articles on it.
How can they be bankrupt if they own half the movies these days and are making billions a year?
And in the time of greatest despair, there shall come a savior, and he shall be known as the Son of the Suns.
Because DoomCock says so
After being beaten and battered by prequel hate, I promise not to be that to the next generation.
Because DoomCock says so
How anyone can take a person who dresses up as a robotic blow-up doll and calls themself “DoomCock” seriously, I’ll never know.
“The Anarchists are right in everything; in the negation of the existing order and in the assertion that, without Authority there could not be worse violence than that of Authority under existing conditions. They are mistaken only in thinking that anarchy can be instituted by a violent revolution… There can be only one permanent revolution — a moral one: the regeneration of the inner man. How is this revolution to take place? Nobody knows how it will take place in humanity, but every man feels it clearly in himself. And yet in our world everybody thinks of changing humanity, and nobody thinks of changing himself.”
― Leo Tolstoy
‘Star Wars’ and ‘The Empire Strikes Back’ are great movies. As a brand, Star Wars is completely derivative and overrated. That being said, Star Wars and Marvel, as IP’s, both need to be rescued from Disney.
On further reflection while i’m happy to have gotten new movies, i’m not sure i was willing to sacrifice the EU, Lucasarts or Dark Horse comics Star Wars to get them. The Disney canon is like an entire rebooted universe.
I mean i like the Kanan comic, and Rebels. I like Rogue One, i like the Darth Vader comic from Marvel. I guess i’m selfish because i want the old Star Wars but also the best of the new. But we can’t have what we want, i mean i would love to be able to see George Lucas sequels and Duel of the Fates as actual movies.
While there are a lot of things gone wrong after the purchase (like, 0 good new movies), there have been some gone right. For example I don’t think we would have gotten all the 80s spin-offs in HD. And I really disliked where SW was at around 2010. There were stupid Robot Chicken, Family Guy etc. parodies and the IP was starting to be a laughing stock with no new sensible material since the last film. Even though it is also one of the reasons I hate Disney, but at least it respects their IPs and don’t let them go through the mud.
And in the time of greatest despair, there shall come a savior, and he shall be known as the Son of the Suns.