Absolutely. I hope this does sound convincing because it is quite elegant.
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Let me generate a few more options in case those weren’t good enough:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qjnGZ8KJCETcp7zzg62J1z_-knYK2cFt/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Quw4Le7M2zwyayuHoe7beumrm25Pv6xh/view?usp=sharing
Holy moly I have a lot of links to listen to haha.
The only issue I have with the “sensed the birth of her son” is it kinda implies that moms can’t be a Jedi. Like, “Oop, I’m pregnant. I guess I’ll give up the force.”
Sure I’ll have some feedback after I listen to all the links!!
The Star Wars Saga:
I · II · III · IV · V · VI · VII · VIII · IX | Rogue One · Solo
What was first just a dream has become a frightening reality…
Yeah. For that line, I’d like to try having it generate the same line as in the current version of the fan edit: “Leia told me she sensed the end of her Jedi path.” Might help smooth it over just like the line from Kylo about having become a dyad.
I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently.
EDIT: I also like your line because it suggests the Force is what led her to make her choice. So I can also generate that. It’s up to Hal what we pick.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/180jQ6w8QikSeF5QcduW6zT3O9hSZ7rUH/view?usp=sharing
I love this take. Hopefully this one is considered 😊
The Star Wars Saga:
I · II · III · IV · V · VI · VII · VIII · IX | Rogue One · Solo
What was first just a dream has become a frightening reality…
I like what it implies, as it matches pre-TROS understanding of Leia’s life story, but it may not match the expression on her face during the flashback. Like they’re sparring and her training is almost done and she’s suddenly like “omg I just sensed that I could probably do more in politics.”
To be fair, TROS:A as it stands doesn’t fare any better.
I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently.
I like what it implies, as it matches pre-TROS understanding of Leia’s life story, but it may not match the expression on her face during the flashback. Like they’re sparring and her training is almost done and she’s suddenly like “omg I just sensed that I could probably do more in politics.”
To be fair, TROS:A as it stands doesn’t fare any better.
Ahhhh, Disney Star Wars and their lack of planning lol
The Star Wars Saga:
I · II · III · IV · V · VI · VII · VIII · IX | Rogue One · Solo
What was first just a dream has become a frightening reality…
I like what it implies, as it matches pre-TROS understanding of Leia’s life story, but it may not match the expression on her face during the flashback.
This is true, I hadn’t really considered this. Although, I’d imagine that her having to tell Luke she doesn’t want to be a Jedi anymore would cause a pained expression like that.
As for the line “Leia told me she had sensed the end of her Jedi path”, I’m personally not a big fan of it. I think Leia picks up her Jedi path again in TROS by training Rey and reaching out to Ben. It also is vague and kinda frustrating.
Luke: “So, why exactly are you quitting being a Jedi?”
Leia: “Idk bro, I’m just sensing some bad vibes or something.”
lol
I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently.
Maybe this can help clear up the bad vibes?
Luke Skywalker:
“It was the last night of her training. Leia sensed darkness on her Jedi path, knowing she could better serve the galaxy in other ways, she surrendered her saber to me and said that one day, it would be picked up again by a Jedi who would finish her journey.”
The Star Wars Saga:
I · II · III · IV · V · VI · VII · VIII · IX | Rogue One · Solo
What was first just a dream has become a frightening reality…
I don’t think it works to reveal Leia knew of the vision, but nothing else. Her scenes with Rey at the beginning already hint that she could sense something was wrong with her so it’s not really a big surprise, and it’s got little to do with the big reveal about her being Palpatine’s granddaughter. It feels kinda muddled to go from talking about her bloodline to talking about the vision, and then back to bloodline. Yes the vision is related to her bloodline, but when Luke says “because you’re a Palpatine” he shifts the focus of the conversation, so it’s kinda awkward for him to go “You’re a Palpatine, and Leia also knew…”, “What? that I was a Palpatine?!”, “Oh no, she had no idea about that, she knew about the visions though.”
Also, in the movie Rey only has the one vision of the throne, she tells Finn “I had a vision…” not “I’ve been having visions”, and she tells Luke “I saw myself on the dark throne”, no “I’ve been seeing myself…” etc. so it wouldn’t make much sense to imply Leia still trained Rey despite a vision she had yesterday. Unless she’s been having visions about other, unrelated stuff that we never hear of.
That’s definitely a valid opinion, Burbin.
I think that brings us back to “Leia knew about your inner conflict.” There may be a tenuous relationship between the visions and Palpatine, but the inner conflict is what her being a Palpatine is all about. So it makes sense to bring it up after mentioning her heritage.
As for the line “Leia told me she had sensed the end of her Jedi path”, I’m personally not a big fan of it. I think Leia picks up her Jedi path again in TROS by training Rey and reaching out to Ben. It also is vague and kinda frustrating.
How about something simple like: "Leia told me she sensed her fate lied down a different path…” it gets the point across better of why she didn’t continue as a Jedi, and leaves the door open for her to pick it back up to train Rey. Plus it’s similar to what Ben told Luke before they parted ways, and as you say, it’s still sad for her to tell Luke she couldn’t follow in his footsteps.
Here’s what I’d use for the first scene:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eOmiPm1fLaog_PvYVMH-w6kNxCmnAYJ1/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/11EQ8uHXiEJBgntwghxnnmqogN6EJpA2S/view?usp=sharing
And here’s something similar to what Burbin mentioned for the flashback:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hV4s01PHj2_daV9oUlJ1X2txf1fuvjlh/view?usp=sharing
EDIT: On second thought, it may be best to simply ignore Leia knowing something about Rey (keep it the way it is in v2) but replace the other line in the flashback.
Once again, it sounds very convincing as the original actor… doing a table read.
I do agree that it seems better to keep the fireside conversation as it is, as least for the main ‘Rey Palpatine’ version, rather than try to sell a dramatic reveal about Leia knowing something that isn’t revelatory.
Does Luke have enough dialogue in TLJ and TROS to train an AI? Even if only to cherry-pick phrases from?
And what about simply, “Leia told me that she had reached the end of her Jedi path”?
I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently.
As we’re discussing AI, if I may throw out, the Duel of the Fates script has a scene of Luke telling Kylo to go home. Maybe the AI could read that or something similar, in place of Kylos psychic talk with Palpatine?
I like you, let us burn things together.
I brought our situation before the Great and Powerful Wizard of ChatGPT. After a few back and forths to really bring its headspace alongside my own on this, it generated this:
Here are a few more options for replacement lines that aim to convey a sense of compelling finality, while still avoiding direct references to the death of Leia’s son:
“Leia sensed that her journey as a Jedi was complete, but her role in the galaxy was just beginning.”
“Leia knew that her time as a Jedi had come to an end, but her destiny was far from over.”
“Leia felt a sense of closure in her Jedi training, knowing that her true purpose lay elsewhere.”
“Leia understood that her path as a Jedi had served its purpose, and that her greater mission lay ahead.”
These lines all suggest a sense of finality in Leia’s Jedi path, but also hint at the idea that her story is far from over and that she has a greater role to play in the galaxy. Depending on your preferences, one of these options could work well to add a bit more depth to the moment while still retaining the original performance.
I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently.
As we’re discussing AI, if I may throw out, the Duel of the Fates script has a scene of Luke telling Kylo to go home. Maybe the AI could read that or something similar, in place of Kylos psychic talk with Palpatine?
I don’t think we’d be able to pull off anything dramatic enough to be worth upstaging his entrance into the movie by catching the saber.
I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently.
I’ve reached the end of my allotted characters, unfortunately. I’ll have to create another account using another email to get a 80% discount so I can go at it again. Alternatively, I can provide somebody with the Mark Hamill audio files if they want.
Once again, it sounds very convincing as the original actor… doing a table read.
The thing is, the book it draws from has plenty of dialog that Mark acts out like an actual character. So I’m not sure taking lines from the films would make much of a difference. Not to mention how much effort that would take. One other thing I haven’t tried yet (and will once I get access again) is adding in his readings from World War Z in addition to this latest audiobook. In that older audio book, it’s entirely him voicing a character (completely dialog).
I hate to downplay it, as it’s phenomenal and I know it takes a lot of time and effort on your part. I’m sure we could find a hundred other cool uses for these, besides.
Hoping replacing words at a time could let us get away with what we’re after.
I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently.
The results are a lot more realistic now I’d say:
This one seems to line up with TROS the best: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qtaKyJd6tCoY2xoWLam1uingw2ZLvqtE/view?usp=sharing
ChatGPT Line: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1v_8b45MOxMvNbP8_nUpImTqvUKpAXcUw/view?usp=sharing
I’ve yet to tap into the full might of ChatGPT, but this is really turning out to be a progressive conversation.
“The Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.”
-Sheev Palpatine, Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith (2005)
I think we’re overcomplicating things with all this “destiny” and “fate” mumbo-jumbo.
“Leia told me she sensed a different calling than a Jedi’s.”
It’s short, simple, and to the point. She had more motivation to focus her efforts on being a mother and political activist. Here are some generations:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/18h_bW6_GQCDAu41S7IYSAGsv3VzUoteo/view?usp=sharing (preferred)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zHD6bvI9e4NQKDd0kCW9ucIunU_MrrmY/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kgJHs-_l0MWtIkmM1K0SbSTq01_tpjyW/view?usp=sharing
It definitely sounds like Mark but I get Hal’s reticence - his old Luke voice is a bit unique, much deeper. Almost wonder if some of these lines could be pitch shifted.
As for Luke saying Leia saw Rey’s dark vision(s), might not be the best for a Rey Palpatine edit, but would be helpful for Rey Nobody.
As for the Leia lines, which ones are you interested in, Hal? Probably not the lightsaber one from the sounds of things, but “he’s too dangerous” and “I sense a great deal of uncertainty in you, Rey” are lines I haven’t heard any negative feedback about.
I don’t remember seeing that second line, what’s the placement of that?
And did anyone ever come up with another Leia line before the briefing (before or after “always in the shadows from the very beginning”).