I’ve seen a little bit of discussion about generally positive, chilled out Star Wars youtube channels as they tend to be few and far between: I thought I’d promote this one. I actually know Austin, the guy who runs it, and after not regularly posting for a couple years, he’s trying to grow it again. So far there have only been two new livestreams covering upcoming content but he’s going to do some shorter regular videos as well. 2022 is a great year to be starting posts again because there is so much on the way, and any support would be appreciated!
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVPF49f0qdUHjHHoeZ7Po8Q/videos
Seeing as this is technically a thread for videos, here are the most recent livestreams:
https://youtu.be/7SqHriyS0VA
The Book of Boba Fett Thoughts and Breakdown | ‘Chapter 4: The Gathering Storm’
https://youtu.be/sMFjzj3U0vU
What Is Up With Lucasfilm Marketing? + Lego Skywalker Saga REACTION | SWE Live
“Remember, the Force will be with you. Always.”
The Star Wars Sequels: Disney’s Anti-Trilogy
“Heroes come in all sizes, and you don’t have to be a giant hero. You can be a very small hero. It’s just as important to understand that accepting self-responsibility for the things you do, having good manners, caring about other people - these are heroic acts. Everybody has the choice of being a hero or not being a hero every day of their lives.” - George Lucas
The Star Wars Sequels: Disney’s Anti-Trilogy
Sequel hate and prequel apologia - name a better combination!
So Uncivilized should be tossed in the same bin as Fandom Menace. A more eloquent and educated Fandom Menace member, but Fandom Menace nonetheless. I haven’t trusted them since they sang the praises of that video that “debunked” How Star Wars was Saved in the Edit.
Sequel hate and prequel apologia - name a better combination!
So Uncivilized should be tossed in the same bin as Fandom Menace. A more eloquent and educated Fandom Menace member, but Fandom Menace nonetheless. I haven’t trusted them since they sang the praises of that video that “debunked” How Star Wars was Saved in the Edit.
I enjoy his videos but it’s good we can’t all agree. I’d also say the dubunking video isn’t wrong. Marcia Lucas has said as much in Howard Kazanjian’s book and Jonathan Rinzler discussed it in an interview with Rick Worley. I highly recommend both. It was all a collaboration between different creatives.
“Heroes come in all sizes, and you don’t have to be a giant hero. You can be a very small hero. It’s just as important to understand that accepting self-responsibility for the things you do, having good manners, caring about other people - these are heroic acts. Everybody has the choice of being a hero or not being a hero every day of their lives.” - George Lucas
Sequel hate and prequel apologia - name a better combination!
So Uncivilized should be tossed in the same bin as Fandom Menace. A more eloquent and educated Fandom Menace member, but Fandom Menace nonetheless. I haven’t trusted them since they sang the praises of that video that “debunked” How Star Wars was Saved in the Edit.
I enjoy his videos but it’s good we can’t all agree. I’d also say the dubunking video isn’t wrong. Marcia Lucas has said as much in Howard Kazanjian’s book. I highly recommend it. It was all a collaboration between different creatives.
I’d say the debunk contained a few too many personal attacks, but yeah, the Rocketjump original really went too far in the “OT succeeded in spite of Lucas” narrative. It’s the subtle influence of the Plinkett Reviews on Star Wars discourse (which sucks, honestly).
I disagree with So Uncivilized on pretty much every aspect of their arguments, as I’ve grown to truly despise “prequel apologia.” It’s how we get things like Lucas Worship (an over-correction of the highest order) and Star Wars Theory’s batshit ideas about armies of Maul and Grievous clones. It’s better to have a more balanced view of the PT that doesn’t descend into pure apologia to put down the ST.
Still, this person’s stuff isn’t as awful as Pop Culture Detective’s The Case Against the Jedi. The TL;DW of that one is “the PT is really sexist and George wrote his animosity towards women into the movies!” That’s a hilarious reach of ever there was one.
Sequel hate and prequel apologia - name a better combination!
So Uncivilized should be tossed in the same bin as Fandom Menace. A more eloquent and educated Fandom Menace member, but Fandom Menace nonetheless. I haven’t trusted them since they sang the praises of that video that “debunked” How Star Wars was Saved in the Edit.
I enjoy his videos but it’s good we can’t all agree. I’d also say the dubunking video isn’t wrong. Marcia Lucas has said as much in Howard Kazanjian’s book. I highly recommend it. It was all a collaboration between different creatives.
I’d say the debunk contained a few too many personal attacks, but yeah, the Rocketjump original really went too far in the “OT succeeded in spite of Lucas” narrative. It’s the subtle influence of the Plinkett Reviews on Star Wars discourse (which sucks, honestly).
I disagree with So Uncivilized on pretty much every aspect of their arguments, as I’ve grown to truly despise “prequel apologia.” It’s how we get things like Lucas Worship (an over-correction of the highest order) and Star Wars Theory’s batshit ideas about armies of Maul and Grievous clones. It’s better to have a more balanced view of the PT that doesn’t descend into pure apologia to put down the ST.
Still, this person’s stuff isn’t as awful as Pop Culture Detective’s The Case Against the Jedi. The TL;DW of that one is “the PT is really sexist and George wrote his animosity towards women into the movies!” That’s a hilarious reach of ever there was one.
Absolutely. I understand what you mean in a lot of ways. I’m pretty much a defender of everything George ever made as I genuinely love all of his work throughout the years but at the same time I do see the flaws too. No artist is perfect afterall. I try to see things from his prospective when I watch his work like with any artist. I have my own personal view and then I also view things how the author intended for me to see them. I think personally George succeeded with the Prequels where the Sequels didn’t. I don’t hate the Sequels as much as some do though. I agree with most of the criticism but I don’t find the need to vilify them at the same time. It’s tricky as while I don’t hate them I don’t have much desire to keep up with Disney Star Wars. It’s just not what it used to be for me but I’m glad some can enjoy it. I wouldn’t want to take that away from them.
I think in short a lot of people don’t understand Star Wars like George told Gary Kurtz. However it’s all personal to the viewer and creators at the same time. Only George can truly say what is and isn’t Star Wars at the end of the day.
“Heroes come in all sizes, and you don’t have to be a giant hero. You can be a very small hero. It’s just as important to understand that accepting self-responsibility for the things you do, having good manners, caring about other people - these are heroic acts. Everybody has the choice of being a hero or not being a hero every day of their lives.” - George Lucas
Yeah, I’m at that point too. I’m just glad George doesn’t have the stigma of a JK Rowling, as he doesn’t use his platform to promote hate towards a marginalized group. I also don’t think George wrote in classist and xenophobic stuff into his work like Rowling did either.
Like Watto, Jar-Jar, and the Nemoidians seem more accidentally “coded” than Rowling intentionally making the banking class of wizarding society a bunch of hook-nosed people.
Absolutely. I think George’s only intentions were to make a lived in universe and make something that has a cultural heritage and history to it. He studied anthropology when in college. He lives and breathes understanding why we as a society and individual make the choices we do. I think the first six films truly show that. I don’t think he had any ill intentions with any of the characters you mentioned or even the Tusken Raiders. He was just making something that would help the stories stay grounded in some kind of reality. Ahmed Best has spoken of this before and I have no doubt if he had a problem with the way Jar Jar was portrayed he would have spoken up to George about it. He also called him a generous collaborator. So I think George would’ve listened if he got the impression he was being insensitive but I don’t think he was. It’s a science fantasy fairytale fable and he treated it as such.
“Heroes come in all sizes, and you don’t have to be a giant hero. You can be a very small hero. It’s just as important to understand that accepting self-responsibility for the things you do, having good manners, caring about other people - these are heroic acts. Everybody has the choice of being a hero or not being a hero every day of their lives.” - George Lucas
Yeah, George deserves the benefit of the doubt with culturally-coding characters in a way that JK Rowling does not. I know it sounds like I’m going off on Rowling a lot, but she’s become the face of “separate the art from the artist.”
That “lived-in universe with a cultural heritage and history” is why I appreciate the Avatar: The Last Airbender series so much. Bryan and Mike went out of their way to give the four nations their distinctive cultures and bring a sense of history to the world. Heck, fan artists make renderings of past avatars based on statues seen in the series to expand upon their work. I’m not the biggest fan of The Legend of Korra, but I appreciate how Bryan and Mike tried to move the series forward and how they had to fight Nickelodeon tooth-and-nail at times. The Kyoshi novels are a fine prequel, doing a lot to expand upon the history of the series’ world and its historical figures.
I agree as for a few years I haven’t been able to read or watch Harry Potter in the same way as I kept thinking about her actions but like you said it’s important to seperate art from artist. I don’t necessarily hate her as she is human and maybe eventually she’ll grow but if not I can focus on the things I do like about her. Like Rupert Grint said recently she’s like an auntie to him but it doesn’t mean he has to agree with her on everything. That’s pretty much how I see her. I very much oppose her problematic views but she’s also done things I can appreciate. I’m also slowly finding I still enjoy Harry Potter but I also can’t defend certain aspects of it. So it’s both give and take when it comes to her and Harry Potter. There’s more good in the series overall than there is bad I find. It should be interesting to see how my viewing of Philosopher’s Stone goes when I watch it again as I bought it today.
That sounds amazing! Avatar: The Last Airbender has been on my to watch list for a long time now as it reminds me of my own story I’m writing on the surface and the way you describe it but you’re pushing it to the top of my to watch list. I may have to give it a go after I complete Pokemon XY and Mad About You.
That’s some of why I appreciate George’s take on the Prequels but probably more so in the context we’re discussing the Sequels he had in mind. His ideas continued to expand the lore and what a Star Wars film could be. I don’t find that to be the case in the Sequels we ended up with as they feel like they’re doing the same exact things we’ve seen before but they can be a moderately fun time on their own. I find they’re modern retro stories for a lack of better wording. However I expect more from these stories. George designed each of his six films to be different but to play off of one another in a way where they could be their own thing individually but the bigger picture story became clearer when watched as a collective whole as I-VI.
“Heroes come in all sizes, and you don’t have to be a giant hero. You can be a very small hero. It’s just as important to understand that accepting self-responsibility for the things you do, having good manners, caring about other people - these are heroic acts. Everybody has the choice of being a hero or not being a hero every day of their lives.” - George Lucas
Timothy Zahn did an interview with the Fandom Spotlite youtube channel, where he talks about Thrawn’s portrayal in Rebels and upcoming series, his own books about Thrawn and the Chiss, as well as non-Star-Wars projects he’s been up to.
https://youtu.be/un3lpw8x9tk
Timothy Zahn On THRAWN & ELI VANTO - Farpoint 2022 Interview
He says he’s very confident in how Thrawn will be handled in future series such as Ahsoka, but that he hasn’t been consulted. (I feel he’s being very nice about this - he deserves input into the direction of his character for worldwide audiences, instead of just writing books afterwards to fill the gaps. But at least he seems ok with it)
He also has proposals for future books he could make, so I’m excited to see which of those come to fruition. Time will tell…
“Remember, the Force will be with you. Always.”
The Story of GLUP SHITTO: Star Wars’ Most Famous Character
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4snG49CxhVw - from the EckhartsLadder YouTube channel (6 mins long)
Star Wars is Surrealism, not Science Fiction (essay)
Original Trilogy Documentaries/Making-Ofs (YouTube, Vimeo, etc. finds)
Beyond the OT Documentaries/Making-Ofs (YouTube, Vimeo, etc. finds)
Amazon link to my novels.
StarWars.com Through the Years | 1996 - 2011 | INTERNET NOSTALGIA!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSLroYkjQ3E - from the HelloGreedo YouTube channel (8:45 mins long).
The blurb:
“Here’s a look at the official Star Wars website over the years.”
Star Wars is Surrealism, not Science Fiction (essay)
Original Trilogy Documentaries/Making-Ofs (YouTube, Vimeo, etc. finds)
Beyond the OT Documentaries/Making-Ofs (YouTube, Vimeo, etc. finds)
Amazon link to my novels.
https://youtu.be/upr53fQKVIE
Dave Filoni Tells Us Where Ezra Is…
“Remember, the Force will be with you. Always.”
Stormtroopers, but They’re ACCURATE
Rogue One is redundant. Just play the first mission of DARK FORCES.
The hallmark of a corrupt leader: Being surrounded by yes men.
‘The best visual effects in the world will not compensate for a story told badly.’ - V.E.S.
‘Star Wars is a buffet, enjoy the stuff you want, and leave the rest.’ - SilverWook
AMAZING performance from Andy Serkis shown without CGI from The Last Jedi.
4 minutes of fun: “How Star Wars: Obi-Wan Kenobi Should Have Ended” - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-4MehDB4MM
I found these were a fun or decent watch for Kenobi too, from other reasoned (non-toxic & non-agenda) YouTube channels:
Honest Trailers | Obi-Wan Kenobi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DblSA-T_C-I
Mr Sunday Movies | Did Obi-Wan Meet Expectations? - Kenobi Series Recap: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUAoqbv1vrI
Generation Tech | Obi Wan Kenobi - The Good, The Bad And The Ugly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyzKrrPxbmU
Generation Tech | Everything Wrong with the Battle of Jabiim: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqKh8tn1gsM
HelloGreedo | My Kenobi Review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlzYesASGA4
Star Wars Explained | Obi-Wan Kenobi Full Series Review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8tpSoI_eBI
EckhartsLadder | Absolutely Phenomenal Finale for Kenobi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9D747V-1HU
ScreenCrush | KENOBI - The Secret Meaning of the Star Wars Show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10uJDW_IKzU
ScreenCrush | Episode Explanation videos: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDVUo0d8uHhe0kXCZ2y73Xyk2L-xeoD1c
IGN | Obi-Wan Kenobi Season 1 Review : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PS_DjET1QQA
The Imperial need for control is so desperate because it is so unnatural. Tyranny requires constant effort. It breaks, it leaks. Authority is brittle. Oppression is the mask of fear.
And for The Book of Boba Fett:
How Star Wars: The Book of Boba Fett Should Have Ended: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsMmStQDiyM
Honest Trailers | The Book of Boba Fett: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5Gt9s6xDB8
Mr Sunday Movies | Did The Book Of Boba Fett miss the mark?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQzfKgeaeuI
Generation Tech | Everything Wrong with the Battle of Mos Espa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no9sgkaFqMw
Generation Tech | “Peaceful Approach” To Crime Will Eventually Fail: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LvgrU0w508
HelloGreedo | Is The Book of Boba Fett Good? Review & Thoughts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGcF7ul2mDQ
Star Wars Explained | The Book of Boba Fett Season One Review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPLIduOdUTc
EckhartsLadder | Was the Book of Boba Fett a Mistake?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dFCnVl_LOA
ScreenCrush | TBoBF - What Worked and What Didn’t - Breakdown Review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnEfRV0CPfQ
ScreenCrush | Episode Explanation videos: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDVUo0d8uHhekp0dzXh15wl5jzAR83x7b
IGN | The Book of Boba Fett Season 1 Review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIDkrGwhe1M
The Imperial need for control is so desperate because it is so unnatural. Tyranny requires constant effort. It breaks, it leaks. Authority is brittle. Oppression is the mask of fear.
Andor:
Honest Trailers | Andor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6_5fjY54oQ
Mr Sunday Movies | The BEST Star Wars EVER? - Andor Season 1 Review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIQ8dyNllGU
Generation Tech | Most Realistic and Complete Depiction of the Empire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrcUOhr1_Ok
Generation Tech | Andor all videos playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYLcVRunYmxb9miTWbdjYYpWAPhVsFhXY
HelloGreedo | Andor is the BEST thing to happen to SW in a LONG time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVF6FV1cRvE
Star Wars Explained | Why Star Wars Andor is GREAT, Andor S1 Review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xI56p5TQO_s
Star Wars Explained | Everything I Love About Andor Season One: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4AEWKiPDew
EckhartsLadder | Andor was PHENOMENAL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KYAhbHNu1w
ScreenCrush | Why ANDOR Works and the BOOK OF BOBA FETT Didn’t: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BljZaXruxow
ScreenCrush | Episode Explanations: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDVUo0d8uHhfDXcs0NNq3w269zDOWXY6u
IGN | Andor - Season 1 Review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iytVI2YudqQ
The Imperial need for control is so desperate because it is so unnatural. Tyranny requires constant effort. It breaks, it leaks. Authority is brittle. Oppression is the mask of fear.
The official Star Wars YouTube channel playlist for Andor:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL148kCvXk8pC2fMmEFdKns2Zvyvob6h9X
Star Wars Explained | Everything You NEED to Know Before Watching Andor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLMKsI2zjOA
I would add that it is worth watching the first 3 episodes of Andor in one go, as it was released to be viewed that way.
The Imperial need for control is so desperate because it is so unnatural. Tyranny requires constant effort. It breaks, it leaks. Authority is brittle. Oppression is the mask of fear.
Auralnauts | Andor 1975 TV Intro (Spoilers)
The Imperial need for control is so desperate because it is so unnatural. Tyranny requires constant effort. It breaks, it leaks. Authority is brittle. Oppression is the mask of fear.
Honest Trailers | Andor
The Imperial need for control is so desperate because it is so unnatural. Tyranny requires constant effort. It breaks, it leaks. Authority is brittle. Oppression is the mask of fear.
A.M. Cinematics | Is Andor Actually THAT Good? (Yes, and here’s why)
The Imperial need for control is so desperate because it is so unnatural. Tyranny requires constant effort. It breaks, it leaks. Authority is brittle. Oppression is the mask of fear.
Designed by Kirk | Why ANDOR is SO IMPORTANT for Star Wars (Video Essay)
The Imperial need for control is so desperate because it is so unnatural. Tyranny requires constant effort. It breaks, it leaks. Authority is brittle. Oppression is the mask of fear.
Thomas Flight | Why Andor Feels So Real
The Imperial need for control is so desperate because it is so unnatural. Tyranny requires constant effort. It breaks, it leaks. Authority is brittle. Oppression is the mask of fear.