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“Remember, the Force will be with you. Always.”

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Lol that spin was just campy in a good sense, it fit the rest of the chapter.

I don’t know if I can really say anything that hasn’t been said by now. Was a solid finale for the series, entertaining even if not great (as is my opinion above the series overall).

I’m pretty sure there were corporate constraints to bring Din and Grogu back together as soon as possible. As much as I love the duo, I was pretty pumped to see how Din would act in the absence of his newfound moral compass, i.e. more scenes like the butchery fight in the cold open of Chapter 5. I also concur it’s going to be a pretty awkward experience to bingewatch The Mandalorian without throwing BOBF in.

In retrospect I find it so easy to imagine ways to improve the show that it ends up being frustrating on how Rodriguez or Favreau didn’t think of them. It’s clear the series wasn´t one of the priorities for Lucasfilm which is a shame.

The series could have been fixed so easily by establishing Cad Bane earlier, maybe at the end of the third episode when we see the Pyke forces land on Mos Espa. Then have Bane and Fett meet in an extra episode set right before the finale, and we sould see flashbacks of Cad mentoring Boba as a teenager and having a talk about Jango. Maybe show some past incident that led to Boba’s resentment about how other people use bounty hunters, as he told Fennec in chapter 4.

BUT i found Cad Bane’s death to be necessary. Boba had to be the one that killed him. But his defeat would have held so much more weight if we saw their prior interactions. We literally saw once when Boba paid a favor to Bane in prison (TCW) and all we’ve seen of Bane’s passing of the torch to Boba was a cancelled arc and a couple of animatics.

I wish Mando’s visit to Luke’s temple had been kept offscreen, and saved for the first couple of episodes of The Mandalorian S3. Or have the epilogue/post credits scene for the finale be Mando flying his starship to Luke’s planet, and we see Luke and Grogu from a distance (much like a shot of the actual chapter 6). That way it would have been far more open-ended, hype-inducing, and less insulting to the ending of Mandalorian S2.

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I thought the finale was fun, though it wasn’t great. Probably a 6/10, and it’s my favorite episode of the series, which shows how little I cared for the rest of the series.

So is Boba now the mayor of mos espa? He never seemed that interested in doing any crime throughout the series, but now since he’s abandoned the spice trade, it seems like there’s nothing left for him to do except enforce the law and provide for the city’s general welfare.

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jedi_bendu said:

I’ve never said it before, but I’m an occasional article writer for the website sweditorig.com and posted a full review of The Book of Boba Fett the other day. Here it is in case anyone is interested.

https://www.sweditorig.com/post/the-book-of-boba-fett-series-review

Well articulated, reviewed, and written, sir. I have to say, after chewing on the whole series a bit now that it’s over, I agree fully with your article. I started excited, became more so, suddenly lost interest, scratched my head at Mando Season 3 episode (even though it was my favorite), loved Ms Howard’s episode, then enjoyed bits of the finale. I’ll look for more of your work on that site. Again, great piece.

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Anchorhead said:

jedi_bendu said:

I’ve never said it before, but I’m an occasional article writer for the website sweditorig.com and posted a full review of The Book of Boba Fett the other day. Here it is in case anyone is interested.

https://www.sweditorig.com/post/the-book-of-boba-fett-series-review

Well articulated, reviewed, and written, sir. I have to say, after chewing on the whole series a bit now that it’s over, I agree fully with your article. I started excited, became more so, suddenly lost interest, scratched my head at Mando Season 3 episode (even though it was my favorite), loved Ms Howard’s episode, then enjoyed bits of the finale. I’ll look for more of your work on that site. Again, great piece.

Thank you very much! I was unwisely writing it in the early hours of Friday morning so I’m glad you agree it turned out nicely. I didn’t entirely trust myself making that judgement!

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This finale was so bad… might be the worst piece of sh*t Disney created for the franchise along with TFA and TROS… Deux Grogu Machina is ruining everything again (they don’t even try anymore, just the way it’s moving is insulting to good taste in filmmaking).

I’m so concerned about Kenobi: can they ruin SW any further? 😕

So long 🙌

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MalaStrana#2 said:

This finale was so bad… might be the worst piece of sh*t Disney created for the franchise along with TFA and TROS… Deux Grogu Machina is ruining everything again (they don’t even try anymore, just the way it’s moving is insulting to good taste in filmmaking).

I’m so concerned about Kenobi: can they ruin SW any further? 😕

Why don’t you quit if all it does is make you rageful?

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BedeHistory731 said:

MalaStrana#2 said:

This finale was so bad… might be the worst piece of sh*t Disney created for the franchise along with TFA and TROS… Deux Grogu Machina is ruining everything again (they don’t even try anymore, just the way it’s moving is insulting to good taste in filmmaking).

I’m so concerned about Kenobi: can they ruin SW any further? 😕

Why don’t you quit if all it does is make you rageful?

You could say that about 75% of the internet.

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So the final episode of THE BOOK OF BOBA FETT was another uneven mix of highs and lows for me, and I’d find it difficult to re-watch the entire show in it’s existing form again, due to the amount of things that niggled me along the way. However, there were some moments here and there that I really liked too…but it would take a LOT of snipping and rearranging throughout the show to minimise the things that irked me, and to give it a tone more to my own taste overall. For example, a simple thing would be to remove certain moments of Boba’s dialogue, so that he’s less ‘chatty’ and remains more of the ‘silent type’ overall. And trimming some of the 'scooter gang’s dialogue would definitely help too…

It feels like THE MANDALORIAN show’s storyline is completely interlinked with this show now…and vice versa…and fans of Mando and Boba would really need to watch BOTH shows to get a complete insight on events involving these characters. Which was a deliberate intention by Disney’s writers I guess, although I’d prefer to rearrange some of the Mando/Grogu-centric scenes away from THE BOOK OF BOBA FETT’s storyline somewhat. But I’ll wait to see how Season 3 of THE MANDALORIAN pans out, to get a better idea of the way I’d choose to go about that.

It’s a pity that the Tusken tribe was completely wiped out, as I’d liked to have seen them being involved in fighting the Pyke Syndicate alongside Boba and co.

Although I was aware of what the Cad Bane ‘cowboy bounty hunter’ character looked like, he was just an ‘Expanded Universe’-type character I wasn’t invested in, due to never having watched The Clone Wars animated show. However, he fitted in pretty well playing the familiar ‘bad gun-for-hire’ role for this, and came across as an effectively creepy opponent for Boba I thought.

I generally liked a lot of what we saw concerning the Rancor too, although I’d prefer to cut down on the giant ‘Terminator’-like droids and ‘scooter gang’ antics somewhat. I’m curious to see how season 3 OF THE MANDALORIAN is going to start off, now that a ‘Force-trained’ Grogu is back in the mix with Mando.

There’s plenty of ways that THE BOOK OF BOBA FETT could be re-edited, but no matter what, one thing I’d DEFINITELY prefer to change is the way that the show concludes…

While the final scene of ‘Grogu’ getting a joyride in Mando’s ship was a fun moment to end on, I really disliked the overly-‘cuddly’ scenes of Boba and Fennec mingling with the locals down ‘mainstreet’ and meeting with the ‘scooter gang’ as our last moments with them…so I’d DITCH all of that, as there was already a perfect ending for me before that…where we instead have our final scene with Boba showing him killing Cad Bane then walking away…as we then see Mando failing to control the Rancor before ‘Grogu’ subdues it and falls asleep…and the show’s finale eventually ends with the neat scene of Fennec assassinating the syndicate bosses, the corrupt Mayor, and the Pyke leader…as she exits up the steps, and the door closes behind her to darkness…

So that’s the tone I’d prefer to end this show on compared to the existing one, as the music fades down at this point and we then CUT to the ‘Directed by Robert Rodriguez’ end credit, and the end artwork shots begin.

(and then I’d prefer to REPLACE the ‘Cobb Vanth in bacta tank/MOD-ifier guy’ scene with the humorous ‘Grogu getting a joyride in Mando’s ship’ scene before we return to the rest of the end credits)

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MalaStrana#2 said:

I’m so concerned about Kenobi: can they ruin SW any further? 😕

Kenobi is a totally different creative team so I wouldn’t give up hope just yet. Same with Andor - Tony Gilroy, who was heavily involved with Rogue One - is writing. Honestly, I’m just concerned about Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni’s upcoming projects.

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https://youtu.be/xFkgq0wmQ90
The HUGE Problem with The Book of Boba Fett | Video Essay from the FilmSpeak YouTube channel

Excellent and entertaining video about the highs and lows of the series. Pretty long, mind you.

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I’ve let this all stew for a bit and well … just … not an impressive show. It’s inconsistent any many ways and was a let down. This show was definitely slapped together with productions issues with season 3 for Mando.

I hate to say this … but this show is like the sequels in a way … mess around with an OG character (Boba) and forget the story/events before it (Mando Season 2 both point and finale … "I’ll give my life to protect him … Boba …)

It seems like, at the moment, Star Wars peaked with Mandolorian Season 1 and 2 since Bad Batch was a bit disappointing and this show was a mess.

I am fearful for Kenobi … I HAVE to lower my expectations for Kenobi for my sanity. (I hate being negative, I was so happy during the time of Mando season 1 and 2.)

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From Boba Fett to Young Sheldon

Actress Ming-na Wen will be on Young Sheldon tonight on CBS.

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I enjoyed it. Not as much as the Mandalorian, but that’s okay. It was still a good time and a nice little bridge between Mando season 2 and 3.

People really need to stop projecting so many expectations onto Star Wars. Actually modern fandoms need to do that in general, I swear there’s not a single fandom
nowadays where the fanbase collectively enjoys more than 1% of its content.

Life is more fun if you learn to just sit back and enjoy the ride, instead of picking everything apart and fixating on how you’d have personally handled various details.

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Buzz Lightyear said:

I enjoyed it. Not as much as the Mandalorian, but that’s okay. It was still a good time and a nice little bridge between Mando season 2 and 3.

People really need to stop projecting so many expectations onto Star Wars. Actually modern fandoms need to do that in general, I swear there’s not a single fandom
nowadays where the fanbase collectively enjoys more than 1% of its content.

Life is more fun if you learn to just sit back and enjoy the ride, instead of picking everything apart and fixating on how you’d have personally handled various details.

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This!

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Don’t worry about Kenobi, first off, Deborah Chow is working on this, she directed some of the best episodes of the Mandalorian. We have Ewan McGregor and Hayden Christensen returning.

This story is about protecting the twins, Luke and Leia. Kenobi making sacrifices and the choices he made/makes and has to live with. I’m sure there’s fan service here and there, but we also get John Williams music for this.

Just give it a chance.

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I don’t really mind spoilers, I’ve been lurking around this thread for a while. Does it pick up? I’m kinda not wanting to watch after episode 2. It’s starting on TNG season 1 shaky ground. I really like Mando, even if Season 2 had a few too many cameos that detracted from Mando and the kid. Should I just watch the episodes with Mando? Seeing a lot of mixed reactions.

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J0E said:

I don’t really mind spoilers, I’ve been lurking around this thread for a while. Does it pick up? I’m kinda not wanting to watch after episode 2. It’s starting on TNG season 1 shaky ground. I really like Mando, even if Season 2 had a few too many cameos that detracted from Mando and the kid. Should I just watch the episodes with Mando? Seeing a lot of mixed reactions.

Does it pick up? Yes and no. Episode 2 is really good, then it slows down until Mando shows up in ep. 5.

You could watch just episode 5 and 6 without causing any big confusion going into The Mandalorian season 3, though you would technically miss out on some minor details.

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ZkinandBonez said:

J0E said:

I don’t really mind spoilers, I’ve been lurking around this thread for a while. Does it pick up? I’m kinda not wanting to watch after episode 2. It’s starting on TNG season 1 shaky ground. I really like Mando, even if Season 2 had a few too many cameos that detracted from Mando and the kid. Should I just watch the episodes with Mando? Seeing a lot of mixed reactions.

Does it pick up? Yes and no. Episode 2 is really good, then it slows down until Mando shows up in ep. 5.

You could watch just episode 5 and 6 without causing any big confusion going into The Mandalorian season 3, though you would technically miss out on some minor details.

Alright, I’ll give episodes 5 and 6 a shot and see what if I want to go back/forward. Yeah episode 2 was better than one but it still feels a little off. I’m kinda meh on the show so far. Thanks for the recommendation.

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Buzz Lightyear said:

I enjoyed it. Not as much as the Mandalorian, but that’s okay. It was still a good time and a nice little bridge between Mando season 2 and 3.

People really need to stop projecting so many expectations onto Star Wars. Actually modern fandoms need to do that in general, I swear there’s not a single fandom
nowadays where the fanbase collectively enjoys more than 1% of its content.

Life is more fun if you learn to just sit back and enjoy the ride, instead of picking everything apart and fixating on how you’d have personally handled various details.

BOBF was a mess, dude. Good that you and others liked it, but it’s super normal people being disappointed with this series, because it is disjointed. It’s not about “fixating on how you’d have personally handled various details”, the producers could surprise us with something we don’t expect and that could be awesome, but the series is weak in various aspects that users here already pointed out. It’s not people’s fault if writing in other shows are bad, either.

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Sirius said:

Buzz Lightyear said:

I enjoyed it. Not as much as the Mandalorian, but that’s okay. It was still a good time and a nice little bridge between Mando season 2 and 3.

People really need to stop projecting so many expectations onto Star Wars. Actually modern fandoms need to do that in general, I swear there’s not a single fandom
nowadays where the fanbase collectively enjoys more than 1% of its content.

Life is more fun if you learn to just sit back and enjoy the ride, instead of picking everything apart and fixating on how you’d have personally handled various details.

BOBF was a mess, dude. Good that you and others liked it, but it’s super normal people being disappointed with this series, because it is disjointed. It’s not about “fixating on how you’d have personally handled various details”, the producers could surprise us with something we don’t expect and that could be awesome, but the series is weak in various aspects that users here already pointed out. It’s not people’s fault if writing in other shows are bad, either.

Well, all I can say is I disagree. Enjoyment is all subjective, and how much you enjoy things is based as much on your state of mind as anything else.

I’m just over the whole “Does it suck or does it not suck” conversation that swallows up almost all discussion of anything in any fandom. What does it matter? What does it accomplish? Okay so not every story is perfect, not every writer is equally as gifted, not every gifted writer hits a perfect home run every time, oh well. Why not just focus on the good things, try to see things from the perspective of what the writer was going for and immerse yourself in the fantasy as though it were real, instead of picking it apart from a meta perspective? It’s more fun that way.

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Buzz Lightyear said:

People really need to stop projecting so many expectations onto Star Wars.

People really need to stop projecting so many assumptions onto how others consume tv shows and movies.

So long 🙌

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MalaStrana#2 said:

Buzz Lightyear said:

People really need to stop projecting so many expectations onto Star Wars.

People really need to stop projecting so many assumptions onto how others consume tv shows and movies.

I mean, if you’re happy dissecting everything from a meta perspective, more power to you. But that doesn’t seem to be the case for most people in the various fanbases I’m part of, rather there’s a general attitude of discontent if not outright misery.

Regardless, though, I just don’t see any merit in that line of discussion anymore. “X story is good because it does this list of things right! Y story is bad because it does this list of things wrong!” “No, X story is bad because it does this list of things wrong! Y story is good because it does this list of things right!” Maybe it’s just because I’ve gotten too old for that kind of critical mindset, Idaknow, but I’m done with it, personally.

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MalaStrana#2 said:

Buzz Lightyear said:

People really need to stop projecting so many expectations onto Star Wars.

People really need to stop projecting so many assumptions onto how others consume tv shows and movies.

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