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The Book Of Boba Fett (live action series) - a general discussion thread - * SPOILERS * — Page 22

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jedi_bendu said:

I just don’t like how Ahsoka currently looks in live action

There is a noticeable stiffness in the way she’s played in live action. She totally lost her agility and smooth moves that I felt very refreshing in TCW.

On the narrative level, we get to see the first known encounter bewteen Luke and his father’s former padawan, and all the exhange is shrinked down as the same comment Beru did 10 years back in Saga timeline (“so much like your father”). Filoni is again just staging something we will never see. All SW shows seem to be about staging other shows or to pretend to correct errors from the past (this short Jedi Temple purge scene which doesn’t add any substance to what was already seen in ROTS…). What about actual new and fun content like the dragon hunt of Season 2 ?

I really wish they would stop trying to tell SW stories which always cross the paths of the main Saga characters. I’m not al all excited to see Luke, R2, or anyone else we have 6 to 9 movies about already… the introduction of BOBF episode 5, with Mando getting a Bounty, is way better than seeing CGI Luke (still not welll done and looks fake all along) building a small temple with spider robots task force (terrible design). And fucking again this training sphere… it was already shitty in AOTC and TROS, it still is here.

Is it so difficult to innovate ?

So long 🙌

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Apparently.

I feel like the world’s gone crazy. The last episode got rave reviews on Rotten Tomatoes. Every now and then, I peek at the forums on the force.net and everyone is raving about how great this episode is. I even saw someone say they hope they get an entire series of movies with cgi Luke, Han, and Leia. I just…don’t get it.

I’m of the the opinion that as much as I love Star Wars, it’s kind of limited. I’ve mentioned this on forums before, and people have responded by saying that the galaxy far far away has all this unlimited potential for different stories. But it really seems like all anybody wants is endless stories about Luke, Han, and Leia.

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This is, as Rich Evans said, an “intellectually bankrupt franchise” and it always has been. Expecting it to be any different now is hilarious.

Star Wars was a mistake. 😉

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I really hate how they’re immediately undoing the ending of Mando Season 2. I was hoping we would get one season or at least part of a season where Din is on his own, dealing with all he’s learned and how he’s changed, as well as focusing on Mandalorian culture. Instead we only got one episode of that and in a series that isn’t even his.

I guess Grogu’s just too popular for it’s own good, though they easly could’ve had him pop up on his own in Ahsoka or whichever other series. The Din and Grogu reunion could’ve been really memorable if they gave it some time, but it seems they’re desperate to get back to the winning formula to the point they ripped two pages off of Boba’s Book just so we start Mando Season 3 with the duo back together.

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Honestly, taking an episode like this out of the context of the show, I thought it was amazing. Sure, we’re taking a break from the story at large, but books do that sometimes.

After being beaten and battered by prequel hate, I promise not to be that to the next generation.

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BedeHistory731 said:

This is, as Rich Evans said, an “intellectually bankrupt franchise” and it always has been. Expecting it to be any different now is hilarious.

Star Wars was a mistake. 😉

My preferred Skywalker Saga experience:
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StarkillerAG said:

BedeHistory731 said:

This is, as Rich Evans said, an “intellectually bankrupt franchise” and it always has been. Expecting it to be any different now is hilarious.

Star Wars was a mistake. 😉

It’s because I like joking around about how negative this forum can get, as the wink would indicate.

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Burbin said:

I really hate how they’re immediately undoing the ending of Mando Season 2. I was hoping we would get one season or at least part of a season where Din is on his own, dealing with all he’s learned and how he’s changed, as well as focusing on Mandalorian culture. Instead we only got one episode of that and in a series that isn’t even his.

I guess Grogu’s just too popular for it’s own good, though they easly could’ve had him pop up on his own in Ahsoka or whichever other series. The Din and Grogu reunion could’ve been really memorable if they gave it some time, but it seems they’re desperate to get back to the winning formula to the point they ripped two pages off of Boba’s Book just so we start Mando Season 3 with the duo back together.

Yeah…unless Grogu decides to stay with Luke. Except if he stays, he’ll get killed by Kylo Ren, so I’m assuming he chooses to go with Din…which makes me wonder what the point was of having him go off with Luke in the first place. I really have no idea what they can even do with Grogu going forward. I have a hard time imagining he’s gonna become an adorable little Mandalorian warrior, with a tiny helmet and jet pack.

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Burbin said:

I really hate how they’re immediately undoing the ending of Mando Season 2. I was hoping we would get one season or at least part of a season where Din is on his own, dealing with all he’s learned and how he’s changed, as well as focusing on Mandalorian culture. Instead we only got one episode of that and in a series that isn’t even his.

I guess Grogu’s just too popular for it’s own good, though they easly could’ve had him pop up on his own in Ahsoka or whichever other series. The Din and Grogu reunion could’ve been really memorable if they gave it some time, but it seems they’re desperate to get back to the winning formula to the point they ripped two pages off of Boba’s Book just so we start Mando Season 3 with the duo back together.

Very well said.

“Remember, the Force will be with you. Always.”

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Cthulhunicron said:

Yeah…unless Grogu decides to stay with Luke. Except if he stays, he’ll get killed by Kylo Ren, so I’m assuming he chooses to go with Din…which makes me wonder what the point was of having him go off with Luke in the first place. I really have no idea what they can even do with Grogu going forward. I have a hard time imagining he’s gonna become an adorable little Mandalorian warrior, with a tiny helmet and jet pack.

My bet is that he decides to stay with Din, so Luke will deliver him back to Tatooine. Luke will then get involved with the war against the Pykes. I don’t like it, but I can see it happening.

I agree that if Grogu goes back to Din so soon it’ll take a lot away from the mando s2 ending, which will truly become the pure fanservice I’ve sometimes cynically looked at it as.

As for so many people enjoying this episode… most of the time, I’m glad to see different opinions. I’m happy when people find enjoyment value in things I don’t like! But with this, I can’t help but be frustrated that it’s getting more praise and excitement than episodes such as The Tribes of Tatooine, which actually do interesting and bold new things (such as exploring tusken raider culture to such an extent). It makes me think so many star wars fans care more about surprise character appearances, in any context, than actually good storytelling. And that’s just frustrating.

My suggestion? Add your opinion to things to balance it out. Get a rotten tomatoes account, an IMDB account, it’s quite easy - and give some episodes your honest ratings. I did that earlier today just to add my voice to the mix.

“Remember, the Force will be with you. Always.”

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I’ve seen the screenshots of Luke’s appearance in TBoBF, and one thing that bothers me is that they made him look younger than in RotJ, even though it takes place a few years after the Battle of Endor.

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I’d like to be wrong but it seems rather obvious Grogu will choose the vest-kar and be reunited with Din. It’s pretty clear that’s what they’re setting up, otherwise this would all be redundant of the Season 2 ending where Grogu already chose to go with Luke and Din already accepted to let him go.

The only other option would be for Grogu to somehow not make the choice at all and instead become both foundling and padawan, which might have been set up by the Armorer telling the story of Tarre Vizsla, who was both Mandalorian and Jedi Knight. I don’t know how they could make that work in a show format, but it’d certainly be more interesting, and it’d avoid undoing Season 2 entirely. Though either way I think by next week Grogu will reunite with Din.

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This episode had a lot of cool things in it, but that doesn’t make it a good episode. What was the plot? Mando goes places, and then the camera stays in that place after he leaves, for some reason. Sometimes things happen (Gunfight at Freetown), sometimes things don’t (everything with Luke). Again, individually those things might be “cool”, but they do not together a cohesive episode make.

ROTJ Storyboard Reconstruction Project

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Hal 9000 said:

With time, you will eventually see a piece of media depicting Grogu being trained by Rey Skywalker.

Oh god no. Please keep our precious Grogu away from that abomination.

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BedeHistory731 said:

StarkillerAG said:

BedeHistory731 said:

This is, as Rich Evans said, an “intellectually bankrupt franchise” and it always has been. Expecting it to be any different now is hilarious.

Star Wars was a mistake. 😉

It’s because I like joking around about how negative this forum can get, as the wink would indicate.

Okay, sorry about that. Sarcasm is hard to read online, so I thought you had turned into the new DuracellEnergizer for a second. 😉

Hal 9000 said:

With time, you will eventually see a piece of media depicting Grogu being trained by Rey Skywalker.

Was this intended to be read in Palpatine’s voice? Because that’s certainly how I read it.

My preferred Skywalker Saga experience:
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WitchDR said:

Hal 9000 said:

With time, you will eventually see a piece of media depicting Grogu being trained by Rey Skywalker.

Oh god no. Please keep our precious Grogu away from that abomination.

And it’ll be cgi Rey, with AI voice…and script written by an algorithm.

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For me it isn’t just fan service. We saw grogu evolving as a jedi, and he being present in the attack of the jedi temple is a new detail that we don’t knew until now. Seeing Luke as a true Jedi master, but also learning how to become a teacher and building his jedi academy, seems like character development to me (and a bit of an apology for his treatment in the sequels). I think a big part of the fandom always had wish to see this part of Luke’s history, that we just had read in novels or comics, and I’m really glad that we receive this in the live action format. I totally agree that doing that in BOBF is wrong though, but for me at least, the episode did moved forward the story of these characters (and for Luke, is a kind of a utopian dream coming true due to his age, thanks to the AI technology).

Cad Bane and Cobb Vanth for me aren’t fan service, as they’re one of the few things that totally fits in the narrative of BOBF since episode 5. Ahsoka was a bit gratuitous though, she really was stuffed in there.

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"Set within the timeline of The Mandalorian, these inter-connected shows, along with future stories, will excite new audiences, embrace our most passionate fans, and will culminate in a climactic story event.” Kathleen Kennedy, Disney Plus Investor Day, December 10, 2020

I think this quote speaks to those who are finding it hard to see past the ‘Boba Fett’ title.

If you are creating an inter-connected timeline then you can do that by finding a reason for characters to show up in Jabba’s palace (and risk it feeling shoehorned) or you can take a sojourn to another part of the Galaxy (as the last two episodes did).

Let’s hope that when it does “culminate in a climactic story event” it does indeed feel satisfying.

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Matt.F said:

If you are creating an inter-connected timeline then you can do that by finding a reason for characters to show up in Jabba’s palace (and risk it feeling shoehorned) or you can take a sojourn to another part of the Galaxy (as the last two episodes did).

To be honest, taking a detour to visit a different planet with different characters for most of an episode seems more like hijacking the story than inter-connecting to me. I would have preferred characters showing up at Boba’s palace because at least then Boba would actually be there and it would feel like the same story we started out with.

“Remember, the Force will be with you. Always.”

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The title implies that the plot and action will be following Boba Fett, and that’s really where the issue lies. If the title were just a little less specific then it might bother people less. ‘The Clone Wars’ or ‘Star Wars: Rebels’ for example give the showrunners freedom to expand the scope beyond a single character.

But basically it seems we’re watching a timeline unfold, that’s linked to Boba but not exclusive to him.

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It feels like they should have just made a big Clone-Wars-esque anthology series about the New Republic, which gives them a bit more leeway to do stuff like that. I agree that the title implied that this was a story very focused on Boba Fett, and the marketing sold this as a dip into the crime genre for Star Wars. But not only that, that’s actually what we got for the first four episodes. It was established that Boba was getting character development - it wasn’t always consistent in my view, but I liked and admired it. The general feeling and direction of the show was also established. But as soon as we have some direction to the present day story, we lose it by going to focus on Din, Luke and Grogu instead (which is also totally different from the crime genre vibe we had) and suddenly Boba himself is playing second fiddle to a massive degree.

“Remember, the Force will be with you. Always.”

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They could have had Din tell Fennec “I’ve got to go see the kid” at the end of one episode, and then he shows up at the Palace in the next episode, having visited the kid. Then in Mando Season 3, include all the stuff with him and the Armorer, him and Ahsoka, even the Luke and Grogu scenes (but probably less of those. It was gratuitous).

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fmalover said:

I’ve seen the screenshots of Luke’s appearance in TBoBF, and one thing that bothers me is that they made him look younger than in RotJ, even though it takes place a few years after the Battle of Endor.

They didn’t. Take a look at the movies he was in around 1994. I googled that the other day and found it a surprisingly exact match to how he looked then.

And Mark is a voice actor. A very good one. I believe the voice is his, but they have adjusted it to sound younger. I found his appearance in the episode to be very well done.