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I have that set, and the quality is bloody awful - not worth the trouble unfortunately.
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I wondered if there was a pre-DefCol UK PAL set (equivalent to the Japanese Special Collection) - but if there was, it may have the same problems as the French set, as that was pressed in the UK?
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The UK only ever had a P&S release of the original trilogy.

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Hey Guys (gals if there are any) well I have the NTSC Single Layer, PAL SL and DL versions now. The sad part...I will not be able to get these to a.b.starwars until next week sometime! Sorry about the wait! Life as got me busy!
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I'm low on discs so can't help out for now, but segaflip isn't the only one with the PAL & NTSC, DL & SL ANH...

ESB capturing is going well, should be able to start encoding the video for the DVDs at the weekend, I'm planning on finishing ESB & ROTJ by the end of this month, then do disc/case artwork, after that PAL & NTSC Blade Runner from the DC HD source with the 5.1 and a second audio track of the original version with the voiceover (hope it's easy to edit the audio to compensate for the extra and missing scenes of the DC) - it's going to make the official DC DVDs look like VHS transfers.
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A friend of mine gave me these yesterday:

http://www.haku.co.uk/pics/StarWarsVHS.jpg

I did a quick capture of the beginning 5 mins, the stardestroyer going over and stormtroopers wiping the floor with rebel scum, it appears to have been created from the same source the French & German THX laserdiscs were made from as it has the same burn marks when you first see the droids, and the audio has the same characteristics as the French subtitled LDs, timestretched so the pitch is correct and the dynamic range has been altered so the explosions don't have a disctintive oomph and are just more loud noise amongst the other loud noise. I don't know who allowed the audio to have THX certification but they need a slap.

Are these the tapes Moth3r is using for the audio of his LD transfer?

The only good thing about these tapes is that they have the full English audio for the George Lucas interviews, my German LDs have the same interviews but dubbed.
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Yes those tapes are the source for my audio. Sadly, that's the best copy of the OT that was ever released for us UKers, since our laserdisc market was so miniscule a widescreen laserdisc release was not viable.

I wonder if the dynamic range compression you mention is deliberate, or a side effect of the timestretch?

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I can't see how dynamic compression can be a side effect of time compressing, I think they did it deliberately, if you (can stand to) look at what they did to the 2004 DVDs it's unfortunately not really suprising.


In the middle of colour correcting ESB and thought I'd post an example of the difference between before & after correcting, mostly I did the correction 'by eye' with help from the elusive eyedropper in VirtualDub, I'm use the same settings/filters on all 3 films because they were all mastered at the same place with the same technique.

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I thought I'd chime in and say how really great these captures are! I can't wait for ESB.

Incidentally I've made my own cover for your version of ANH, I can upload it somewhere if you are interested.
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AbsoluteDestiny, you're welcome to upload it somewhere for people to download, however once I've finished the trilogy transfer I'll be doing covers & disc labels using the same source images I used for the main menus (the faces & backgrounds)


Conversion of ESB capture to anamorphic PAL & anamorphic NTSC resolution huffyuv files has begun, now for the 3 day wait till they're done...
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Do you make a huffyuv file for each resolution and then process those or do you do it all in one process chain?

Either way I'm sure a lot of time could be saved by using avisynth, though it sounds like you have your virtualdub filter chain all worked out so whatever works I guess
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Originally posted by: Laserman
I have that set, and the quality is bloody awful - not worth the trouble unfortunately.


Is it the same with the German Silver Screen one too?
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From the source capture files I make an anamorphic NTSC resolution huffyuv avi and an anamorphic PAL resolution huffyuv avi, from there I encode the avis into dual layer and single layer sized mpeg2 files for the DVDs. I convert the capture separately to PAL & NTSC because the last sharpen filter is slightly different, the PAL sharpen setting is 20% higher than the NTSC to compensate for the 20% more pixels compared to NTSC.
If I were to convert the capture files direct to multi-pass mpeg2 it would take 27 days processing to make the PAL & NTSC dual layer & single layer DVDs! hence the need for the huffyuv avis that can be directly encoded to mpeg2.

Believe me the computational process is going as fast as it can.
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Right. Multipass mpeg2 encoding needs the huffy source, that's for sure.
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Citizen, do you find you have to adjust your capture settings separately for each "side" of the laserdiscs?

I can't understand why, if the contrast (white level) is set up to give peak white without clipping on side 1 for example, side 2 is then about 5% too dark, then when you adjust again side 3 has overblown highlights due to clipping, and the level needs to be dropped even lower than side 1 was.

Or do you capture everything with a marginally reduced tonal range then expand during post-processing as necessary?

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The Canopus ADVC-100 isn't like a 'conventional' capture card because all the analogue/digital conversion it does is completely separate from the computer, it's a standalone analogue to/from DV converter and doesn't have any adjustable brightness/contrast/colour/sharpness settings.

I'm using the German LDs for the bulk of my DVDs and the same post-processing brightness/contrast/colour settings works fine for all sides of all the discs, but when I patch the side breaks & intro with the French LD footage I find that yes I have to individually tailor the post-processing settings for each clip as one setting doesn't work for all.
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cant wait Citizen,keep up the GREAT work.
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great work so far citizen. Are you going to do an xvid encode like you did for a new hope?
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Yes once the mpeg2 encoding is complete I'll set the computer onto making the XviD version (need it for my projector, playing the DVD version with a software player just doesn't look as good on the projector), good thing about making the XviD version is I can leave VirtualDub running completely in the background, unlike the mpeg2 encoding of which I can't use the computer for *anything* else due to the resource & drive hogging that goes on (estimate over 850gb of data transfer for the 4 DVD encodes...)
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Okay so is this project (for ANH anyways) done except for the Xvid then??
By the way, I don't know if any of you have ever seen these covers, but I thought they were just slightly better than the ones posted above.

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Originally posted by: Hoichi, the Earless
Okay so is this project (for ANH anyways) done except for the Xvid then??

ANH Xvid was done awhile back, and uploaded to a.b.starwars.
Also I dont think that the cover Citizens is going to make are the pictures of the tapes. Not to be a dick but did you read anything above?
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oh, Yep Citizen is all done with ANH in terms of PAL (SL and DL), NTSC (SL and DL), and Xvid. All of them have been uploaded to a.b.starwars aswell.

Just need to wait for the offical Citizen's covers, for now it is just blank cases and dvds with post'it note