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What is your personal canon? — Page 9

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I don’t really have a strict personal canon. For me, it’s more like “tiers” of canon, like what we used to have with the old EU. So here are my “tiers”:

A-tier: Unaltered Original Trilogy
B-tier: Prequel Trilogy, Special Editions, Movie Novelizations/Radio Dramas
C-tier: Good Expanded Universe stories
D-tier: Bad Expanded Universe stories
E-tier: Fan films/fiction

Disney canon (including TCW) is a separate entity, in my mind. Though I could also put Rogue One and Mando Season 1 into C-tier.

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No personal canon. I exist in the badlands where all Star Wars media may or may not have happened. A New Hope and The Freemaker Adventures are on the same level of canonicity.

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The only acceptable canon is Auralnauts’ Star Wars saga.

YOU PROMISED ME FLESH!

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To me it’s in tiers as well.

  1. Episodes I - VI, 2003 CW Microseries
  2. TCW, Rebels, Solo, Rogue One
  3. Other EU stuff I enjoy - books, comics, etc. - both from the Disney era and the Lucas era

The ST is in a weird spot for me, canonically. More often than not I find myself trying to fall in love with the movies but it’s just so hard to see them as a good continuation of the story. The good thing is that its biggest strengths lie in the trilogy as a meta narrative, each movie trying to communicate with the previous six in different ways. TFA and TROS I really dislike but TLJ I find a fitting coda to the saga. How “canon” those events are, though, is a different beast and I tend not to give it too much thought.

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Being serious this time, I also have tiers.

  1. Hal9000’s prequel edits, Adywan’s OT edits (with 4K83 filling in for ROTJ), and Hal9000’s sequel edits
  2. Clone Wars 3D cartoon, the Maul-centric episodes of Rebels, The Mandalorian and its spin-offs, and Solo.
  3. The various Legends and Canon stuff I enjoy - even if it slightly contradicts itself. I’ll take the novel Death Star over Rouge One any day of the week. I’ll also acknowledge the Thrawn Trilogy over Rebels Thrawn.

I like to pick and choose.

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Yeah, I also tend to have a tier-like system for organizing various parts of the franchise.

1st tier: The original trilogy (either theatrical or Revisited)
2nd tier: The prequel trilogy (Hal9000 edits)
3rd tier: Rogue One, Solo, Mandalorian, certain episodes of Clone Wars, and future live action shows
4th tier: Any other stuff that I happen to like

Like with many others, the sequels are in a bit of a weird spot for me. I genuinely like TLJ, and I can enjoy TFA and TROS as big dumb fanservice flicks, but I just can’t accept them as being the “true” conclusion to the story. I can tolerate them much more when separated from the rest of the franchise. Also, I genuinely can’t stand Rebels, and if the live action shows end up being impossible to separate from that storyline it would be a real shame.

My preferred Skywalker Saga experience:
I II III IV V VI VII VIII IX

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I realized that the description of my personal Canon I gave in my last post was a bit vague. So I decided to put together a detailed list of all the stories that are part of my Canon. Here it is:

  • Star Wars: Dawn of the Jedi: Into the Void
  • Star Wars: Dawn of the Jedi (comics)
  • Star Wars: Tales of the Jedi (comics)
  • Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (comics)
  • Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic I
  • Star Wars: The Old Republic: Revan
  • Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II
  • Star Wars: The Old Republic: Deceived
  • Star Wars: The Old Republic (comics)
  • Star Wars: The Old Republic (original game)
  • Star Wars: Knight Errant (comic series)
  • Star Wars: Knight Errant (novel)
  • Star Wars: The Darth Bane Trilogy
  • Star Wars: Darth Plagueis (novel)
  • Star Wars: Jedi: The Dark Side
  • Star Wars: Jedi Apprentice (series)
  • Star Wars: The Aurorient Express
  • Star Wars: Last Stand on Ord Mantell
  • Star Wars: Maul: Lockdown
  • Star Wars: Jedi Council: Acts of War
  • Star Wars: Republic comics (Issues 1–6)
  • Star Wars: Darth Maul: Saboteur
  • Star Wars: Cloak of Deception
  • Star Wars: Darth Maul (comics)
  • Star Wars: Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter
  • Star Wars: Episode I: The Phantom Menace
  • Star Wars: Bounty Hunter (video game)
  • Star Wars: Jango Fett: Open Seasons
  • Star Wars: Republic comics (Issues 7–48)
  • Star Wars: Rogue Planet (novel)
  • Star Wars: Jedi Quest (series)
  • Star Wars: Outbound Flight
  • Star Wars: The Approaching Storm
  • Star Wars: Episode II: Attack of the Clones
  • Star Wars: Republic Commando (video game)
  • Star Wars: Republic Commando (novel series)
  • Star Wars: The Clone Wars (2002 video game)
  • Star Wars: Republic comics (Issues 49–83)
  • Star Wars: The Cestus Deception
  • Star Wars: Jedi (comic series)
  • Star Wars: Shatterpoint
  • Star Wars: The MedStar Duology
  • Star Wars: Secrets of the Jedi
  • Star Wars: General Grievous (comics)
  • Star Wars: Obsession (comics)
  • Star Wars: Jedi Trial
  • Star Wars: Yoda: Dark Rendezvous
  • Star Wars: Brothers in Arms
  • Star Wars: Labyrinth of Evil
  • Star Wars: Episode III: Revenge of the Sith
  • Star Wars: Kenobi (novel)
  • Star Wars: Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader
  • Star Wars: Purge (comic series)
  • Star Wars: Dark Times (series)
  • Star Wars: Darth Vader and the Lost Command
  • Star Wars: Darth Vader and the Ghost Prison
  • Star Wars: Darth Vader and the Ninth Assassin
  • Star Wars: The Coruscant Knights Trilogy
  • Star Wars: The Last of the Jedi (series)
  • Star Wars: The Last Jedi (novel)
  • Star Wars: Darth Vader and the Cry of Shadows
  • Star Wars: The Han Solo Trilogy
  • Star Wars: Death Star (novel)
  • Star Wars: The Force Unleashed (novelization)
  • Star Wars: Extinction (comic series)
  • Star Wars: Empire (comic series)
  • Star Wars: Episode IV: A New Hope
  • Star Wars: Soldier for the Empire (novella)
  • Star Wars: Rebellion (comic series)
  • Star Wars: Scoundrells
  • Star Wars: Allegiance (novel)
  • Star Wars: Choices of One (novel)
  • Star Wars: Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back
  • Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire
  • Star Wars: Mara Jade: By The Emperor’s Hand
  • Star Wars: Episode VI: Return of the Jedi
  • Star Wars: Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor
  • Star Wars: Rebel Agent (novella)
  • Star Wars: Jedi Knight (novella)
  • Star Wars: Tatooine Ghost
  • Star Wars: The Thrawn Trilogy
  • Star Wars I, Jedi (replacing the Jedi Academy Trilogy)
  • Star Wars: The Hand of Thrawn Duology
  • Star Wars: Union (comics)
  • Star Wars: The New Jedi Order (series)

«This is where the fun begins!»
(Anakin Skywalker)

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For me, the true canon is I-VI and the 2008 The Clone Wars Series. Everything else I basically consider fan fiction that ranges from great/authentic to not very good. I do love most of the content we’ve gotten in the Disney era with the exception of The Rise of Skywalker.

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These canon/legends works are canon to my fanfic verse.

Solo
Rogue One
Star Wars (Theatrical)
The Red One (From A Certain Point of View chapter)
The Luckless Rodian (From A Certain Point of View chapter)
The Empire Strikes Back (Theatrical)
Return of the Jedi (Theatrical)
Heir to the Empire
Dark Force Rising
The Last Command

The sequel trilogy is an alternate universe.

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Original unaltered trilogy
Thrawn trilogy of books
Holiday special

I really don’t get too caught up on what’s canon, and what’s not. And even if I don’t consider something in my personal canon does not mean I refuse to watch it. There are things about the other movies I really like (specifically TFA, which I would include if it didn’t contradict Heir to the Empire). This is just the stuff I consider to be the main story(and the best content) in my head. I’m yet to delve into more of the EU, but from what I’ve read, I anticipate liking it.

Ooh, maybe the Muppet show episode too

You’ll laugh! You’ll cry! You’ll kiss three bucks goodbye!

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The entire “Legends” timeline.

Movies, comics, novels, TV and all.

I’m not really that much of a movie purist. I really should’ve thought my name out a bit more.

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I’m new to the forum, so I’m not sure where my take falls, but outside a few wins I’m really not a fan of what Disney has done with Star Wars. I was always a big lover of the EU; so my personal canon is really just ‘Legends’ and as much of TCW as can be fit without contradiction the original Clone Wars media project I grew up with.

That said, there are sparks of what I believe could have been great in the Disney canon, I just feel it gets lost. I genuinely found Ben Solo a better character than Jacen Solo, but I also feel he was wasted, and his story cut short too abruptly. I enjoy the Mandalorian, but I also feel that as it goes on, Grogu is becoming too much of a plot device and too central to who the Mando is, and in a larger sense the character really should have been Boba Fett.

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Servii said:

I don’t really have a strict personal canon. For me, it’s more like “tiers” of canon, like what we used to have with the old EU. So here are my “tiers”:

A-tier: Unaltered Original Trilogy
B-tier: Prequel Trilogy, Special Editions, Movie Novelizations/Radio Dramas
C-tier: Good Expanded Universe stories
D-tier: Bad Expanded Universe stories
E-tier: Fan films/fiction

Disney canon is a separate entity, in my mind.

Much the same, though I’d place the novelizations in C-tier or their own tier.

I refuse to dehumanize anyone. Your ethical/moral/political/religious views may be utterly repugnant to me, but I strive to hold Luke 23:34 close to my heart.

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In hindsight, I’d probably go ahead and put Rogue One in C-tier, as well.

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I’m new to the forum, so I’m not sure where my take falls, but outside a few wins I’m really not a fan of what Disney has done with Star Wars. I was always a big lover of the EU; so my personal canon is really just ‘Legends’ and as much of TCW as can be fit without contradiction the original Clone Wars media project I grew up with.

I totally agree with that. I don’t like at all what Disney has done so far too, except for Rogue One (though I still don’t consider it strictly Canon). I also agree about TCW. I much prefer the Clone Wars Multimedia Project over TCW too.

«This is where the fun begins!»
(Anakin Skywalker)

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Episode 1
Episode 2
Clone Wars 2D cartoon
Episode 3
Star Wars: Republic Commando video game
Dark Forces 1 video game
The Force Unleashed 1 video game
Episode 4
Episode 5
Episode 6

Alixen said:

I’m new to the forum, so I’m not sure where my take falls, but outside a few wins I’m really not a fan of what Disney has done with Star Wars. I was always a big lover of the EU; so my personal canon is really just ‘Legends’ and as much of TCW as can be fit without contradiction the original Clone Wars media project I grew up with.

Pretty much the same here.

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The radio dramas are a good start. Episode III kind of fits in. I and II can work as spin-offs. And the sequel trilogy doesn’t count. Legends or Bust!

Ol’ George has the GOUT, I see.

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Moved from headcanon thread to here

This surely breaks up quite a bit of continuity.

“Get over violence, madness and death? What else is there?”

Also known as Mr. Liquid Jungle.

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paja said:

Moved from headcanon thread to here

This surely breaks up quite a bit of continuity.

I don’t think it makes much sense. I mean, if you don’t want to accept the Prequel Trilogy as it is, then you could accept the Attack of the Clones novelization as Episode I, then Labyrinth of Evil as Episode II and the Revenge of the Sith novelization as Episode III, plus the Clone Wars Multimedia Project. But accepting the Clone Wars Multimedia Project and at the same time TCW and The Bad Batch makes no sense, there are too many contradictions between these things.

«This is where the fun begins!»
(Anakin Skywalker)

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I sort of see the saga as having different “timelines.”

So for example, there’s the OT timeline which is just the OT, another is the OT and the Ewok movies. One has the PT, and the altered variants of the OT. One variant of that includes The Clone Wars (2008). Another variant is only altered OT + Solo.

Now for my “personal canon” I see it this way:
The Clone Wars (2008), Solo, custom altered OT, Ewoks.

I’ve also got one I like to use for EU stories I enjoy and it is as follows:
Custom altered OT, The Han Solo adventures by Brian Daley, Splinter of the Mind’s Eye, Shadows of the Empire, Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor, The Jedi Academy Trilogy (?).

I don’t really like the idea of canon, I tend to just focus on what I do enjoy and pair it up with whatever fits thematically if that makes sense.

Move along, move along.

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Tales of the Jedi comics
Knights of the Old Republic 1 and 2
Dark Forces and Jedi Knight series
Unaltered Original Trilogy
Shadows of the Empire
All Timothy Zahn books
The Mandalorian seasons 1 and 2
specific video games, comics, RPG supplements, books, etc. on a case by case basis

separate prequel thing if the prequels happened:
Darth Plagueis novel
Select elements of The Phantom Menace
Shatterpoint
Republic Commando game
Genndy Tartakovsky Clone Wars
Select elements of Revenge of the Sith
Kenobi novel
specific video games, comics, RPG supplements, books, etc. on a case by case basis

if you forced me to make a Disney canon of real movies that actually exist:
The Phantom Menace
Revenge of the Sith
Solo
Andor
Rogue One
Original Trilogy
The Mandalorian seasons 1 and 2

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I still don’t have a personal canon. But if I did, it would include everything released 1976-1998, starting with the publication of the SW novelization, ending with the Hand of Thrawn duology. No prequels, no Yuuzhan Vong, no Darth Caedus or Krayt, and no Disney. Only Star Wars at its most organic and varied (though no less commercialized or messy).

I refuse to dehumanize anyone. Your ethical/moral/political/religious views may be utterly repugnant to me, but I strive to hold Luke 23:34 close to my heart.