What is your personal canon? — Page 9

No personal canon. I exist in the badlands where all Star Wars media may or may not have happened. A New Hope and The Freemaker Adventures are on the same level of canonicity.

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Yeah, I also tend to have a tier-like system for organizing various parts of the franchise.

1st tier: The original trilogy (either theatrical or Revisited)
2nd tier: The prequel trilogy (Hal9000 edits)
3rd tier: Rogue One, Solo, Mandalorian, certain episodes of Clone Wars, and future live action shows
4th tier: Any other stuff that I happen to like

Like with many others, the sequels are in a bit of a weird spot for me. I genuinely like TLJ, and I can enjoy TFA and TROS as big dumb fanservice flicks, but I just can’t accept them as being the “true” conclusion to the story. I can tolerate them much more when separated from the rest of the franchise. Also, I genuinely can’t stand Rebels, and if the live action shows end up being impossible to separate from that storyline it would be a real shame.

I realized that I described my personal Canon very vaguely on the previous page, so I decided to create a more detailed post listing every single Media that belongs to my Canon:

• Dawn of the Jedi (comics)
• Tales of the Jedi (comics)
• Knights of the Old Republic (comics)
• Knights of the Old Republic I
• The Old Republic: Revan
• Knights of the Old Republic II
• The Old Republic: Deceived
• The Old Republic (comics)
• The Old Republic (original game)
• The Darth Bane Trilogy
• Darth Plagueis (novel)
• Jedi: The Dark Side
• Jedi Apprentice (series)
• The Aurorient Express
• Last Stand on Ord Mantell
• Maul: Lockdown
• Jedi Council: Acts of War
• Republic comics (from Issue 1 to 6)
• Darth Maul: Saboteur
• Cloak of Deception
• Star Wars: Darth Maul (comics)
• Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter
• Episode I: The Phantom Menace
• Bounty Hunter (video game)
• Jango Fett: Open Seasons
• Republic comics (from issue 7 to 49)
• Rogue Planet (novel)
• Jedi Quest (series)
• Outbound Flight
• The Approaching Storm
• Episode II: Attack of the Clones
• Republic Commando (video game)
• Republic Commando (novel series)
• The Clone Wars (2002 video game)
• Republic comics (from issue 50 to 83)
• The Cestus Deception
• Star Wars: Jedi (comic series)
• Star Wars: Shatterpoint
• The MedStar Duology
• Secrets of the Jedi
• General Grievous (comics)
• Obsession (comics)
• Star Wars: Jedi Trial
• Yoda: Dark Rendezvous
• Star Wars: Brothers in Arms
• Labyrinth of Evil
• Episode III: Revenge of the Sith
• Star Wars: Kenobi (novel)
• Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader
• Star Wars: Purge (comic series)
• Star Wars: Dark Times (series)
• Darth Vader and the Ghost Prison
• The Coruscant Knights Trilogy
• The Last of the Jedi (series)
• The Last Jedi (novel)
• Darth Vader and the Cry of Shadows
• The Han Solo Trilogy
• Death Star (novel)
• The Force Unleashed (novelization)
• Star Wars: Extinction (comic series)
• Star Wars: Empire (comic series)
• Episode IV: A New Hope
• Soldier for the Empire (novella)
• Star Wars: Rebellion (comic series)
• Star Wars: Scoundrells
• Rebel Forces (series)
• Allegiance (novel)
• Choices of One (novel)
• Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back
• Shadows of the Empire
• Mara Jade: By The Emperor’s Hand
• Episode VI: Return of the Jedi
• Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor
• Rebel Agent (novella)
• Jedi Knight (novella)
• The Courtship of Princess Leia
• Tatooine Ghost
• The Thrawn Trilogy
• Dark Empire (the first comic)
• The Jedi Academy Trilogy
• The Hand of Thrawn Duology
• Star Wars: Union (comics)
• Junior Jedi Knights (series)
• Young Jedi Knights (series)
• The New Jedi Order (series)

I don’t entirely dislike the 2008 Clone Wars series, but I prefer the Dark Horse comics and the Clone Wars Multimedia Project, because they feel more realistic and more in line with the Prequel films. Also, my personal Canon tries to be as consistent as possible with the lore introduced by the Prequel Trilogy. In order for my timeline to be as consistent as possible with the lore introduced in the Prequels, it is necessary for the Chosen One prophecy to be true, and this means that Palpatine is not going to resurrect after he is killed by the Chosen One (Anakin), and no Sith is going to exist after Return of the Jedi. In order for Palpatine not to resurrect after Return of the Jedi, my timeline needs to explain Palpatine’s appearance in Dark Empire as the product of a rogue clone of Palpatine who is convinced to be the true Palpatine and inherited his memory, but is not really the same Palpatine who died on the Second Death Star. In order for this explanation to work, Dark Empire II an Empire’s End need to be excluded from the timeline (which is not really a problem, since the first Dark Empire comic is self-contained and doesn’t really need to have a sequel to work), as they make it pretty clear that Palpatine has really resurrected, and that the Palpatine we see in the comics is the same Palpatine who died in Return of the Jedi. Furthermore, my timeline also needs to exclude every Expanded Universe work that takes place after the New Jedi Order series, as the subsequent series (Legacy of the Force and Fate of the Jedi) feature numerous Sith Lords existing after the Chosen One’s death, like Darth Caedus, the Lost Tribe of the Sith and Darth Krayt (to be honest, I exclude the post-NJO books also because I genuinely don’t like them). Finally, I exclude the SWTOR expansions from my personal Canon, because I think that they undermined the story that was presented in the original game, especially when they started to resurrect Vitiate countless times.

Original unaltered trilogy
Thrawn trilogy of books
Holiday special

I really don’t get too caught up on what’s canon, and what’s not. And even if I don’t consider something in my personal canon does not mean I refuse to watch it. There are things about the other movies I really like (specifically TFA, which I would include if it didn’t contradict Heir to the Empire). This is just the stuff I consider to be the main story(and the best content) in my head. I’m yet to delve into more of the EU, but from what I’ve read, I anticipate liking it.

Ooh, maybe the Muppet show episode too

The entire “Legends” timeline.

Movies, comics, novels, TV and all.

EDIT: Wrong thread

Servii said:

I don’t really have a strict personal canon. For me, it’s more like “tiers” of canon, like what we used to have with the old EU. So here are my “tiers”:

A-tier: Unaltered Original Trilogy
B-tier: Prequel Trilogy, Special Editions, Movie Novelizations/Radio Dramas
C-tier: Good Expanded Universe stories
D-tier: Bad Expanded Universe stories
E-tier: Fan films/fiction

Disney canon is a separate entity, in my mind.

Much the same, though I’d place the novelizations in C-tier or their own tier.

I’m new to the forum, so I’m not sure where my take falls, but outside a few wins I’m really not a fan of what Disney has done with Star Wars. I was always a big lover of the EU; so my personal canon is really just ‘Legends’ and as much of TCW as can be fit without contradiction the original Clone Wars media project I grew up with.

I totally agree with that. I don’t like at all what Disney has done so far too, except for Rogue One (though I still don’t consider it strictly Canon). I also agree about TCW. I much prefer the Clone Wars Multimedia Project over TCW too.

The radio dramas are a good start. Episode III kind of fits in. I and II can work as spin-offs. And the sequel trilogy doesn’t count. Legends or Bust!

Moved from headcanon thread to here

This surely breaks up quite a bit of continuity.

paja said:

Moved from headcanon thread to here

This surely breaks up quite a bit of continuity.

I don’t think it makes much sense. I mean, if you don’t want to accept the Prequel Trilogy as it is, then you could accept the Attack of the Clones novelization as Episode I, then Labyrinth of Evil as Episode II and the Revenge of the Sith novelization as Episode III, plus the Clone Wars Multimedia Project. But accepting the Clone Wars Multimedia Project and at the same time TCW and The Bad Batch makes no sense, there are too many contradictions between these things.

EDIT: Never mind.

I sort of see the saga as having different “timelines.”

So for example, there’s the OT timeline which is just the OT, another is the OT and the Ewok movies. One has the PT, and the altered variants of the OT. One variant of that includes The Clone Wars (2008). Another variant is only altered OT + Solo.

Now for my “personal canon” I see it this way:
The Clone Wars (2008), Solo, custom altered OT, Ewoks.

I’ve also got one I like to use for EU stories I enjoy and it is as follows:
Custom altered OT, The Han Solo adventures by Brian Daley, Splinter of the Mind’s Eye, Shadows of the Empire, Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor, The Jedi Academy Trilogy (?).

I don’t really like the idea of canon, I tend to just focus on what I do enjoy and pair it up with whatever fits thematically if that makes sense.

I still don’t have a personal canon. But if I did, it would include everything released 1976-1998, starting with the publication of the SW novelization, ending with the Hand of Thrawn duology. No prequels, no Yuuzhan Vong, no Darth Caedus or Krayt, and no Disney. Only Star Wars at its most organic and varied (though no less commercialized or messy).