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My list below, and I’ve included some (of what I think) are excellent fanfilms that I have italicised, mostly animated in the Unreal Engine. They can all be found on YouTube.

There would be a few more novels to add to my headcanon, but haven’t got around to the new Thrawn books or The High Republic yet to properly evaluate them.

Star Wars: Visions - The Duel (my own headcanon for it to explain discrepancies)
Knights of the Old Republic
The Old Republic: Rescue Mission by Torrm Production
Knights of the Old Republic II
Nihilus: Fall of Katarr by Jake Wallis VFX
Star Wars: The Old Republic - Return
Star Wars: The Old Republic - Hope
Star Wars: The Old Republic - Deceived
Star Wars: The Old Republic - Sacrifice
Star Wars: The Old Republic - Betrayed
Crossfire - Star Wars The Old Republic Short Film, by Loacher Films
Darth Bane: Path of Destruction
Darth Bane: Rule of Two
Darth Bane: Dynasty of Evil
Star Wars: Visions - The Elder
Darth Plagueis (except where it contradicts The Clone Wars)
Star Wars: Darth Maul
Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace
Marvel Star Wars: Obi-Wan and Anakin
Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones (my own version, including deleted scenes)
Star Wars: The Clone Wars (film, tv, Dark Disciple, Son of Dathomir)
Uprising - Star Wars Short Film by Fredly
Against All Odds: A Star Wars Animated Short Film by Frostbite Cinematics
The Elite - Star Wars Short Film by Loacher Films
Shadow of the Republic - Star Wars Short Film by Cinematic Captures
Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith (including the novelisation and my own version and certain deleted scenes)
Order 66 - Star Wars Short Film by Cinematic Captures
Betrayal - Star Wars: Order 66 Short Film by Loacher Films
Marvel Star Wars: Darth Vader Volume 2
The Bad Batch
Brothers - Star Wars Battlefront II animation by Loacher Films
Star Wars: Visions - The Village Bride
Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order
Solo: A Star Wars Story
Star Wars: Rebels
Starkiller: A Star Wars Teaser by Shain
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Star Wars (with my own updates)
Star Wars Volume 1
Star Wars: Darth Vader Volume 1
My Enemy - A Star Wars Story by Loacher Films
The Empire Strikes Back (with my own updates)
Star Wars Volume 2
Star Wars: Darth Vader Volume 3
Star Wars: War of the Bounty Hunters
Fallen Angel - A Star Wars Short by AlexS189
Return of the Jedi (with my own updates)
Star Wars Squadrons
Star Wars Battlefront II
Star Wars: Shattered Empire
The Mandalorian
The Guardian - A Star Wars Short Film by KRYPTIK
The Return - A Star Wars Fan Film by Jeremy Brauns Music
Star Wars - Tragedy of the Chosen One by Ian-Luke Production
Star Wars Battlefront II: Resurgence
Kylo Ren vs Darth Vader: Force of Darkness - A Star Wars Fan-Film) by SeizeTheFrame
Star Wars Legacy - Fan Short by Tim Gray
Star Wars: Resistance
Star Wars: The Force Awakens (with updates from Hal and bbghost)
Star Wars: The Last Jedi (with my own updates, largely from Poppasketti)
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (with my own updates, largely from Hal)
Star Wars: Visions - The Ninth Jedi

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I don’t really have a strict personal canon. For me, it’s more like “tiers” of canon, like what we used to have with the old EU. So here are my “tiers”:

A-tier: Unaltered Original Trilogy
B-tier: Prequel Trilogy, Special Editions, Movie Novelizations/Radio Dramas
C-tier: Good Expanded Universe stories
D-tier: Bad Expanded Universe stories
E-tier: Fan films/fiction

Disney canon (including TCW) is a separate entity, in my mind. Though I could also put Rogue One and Mando Season 1 into C-tier.

But we can’t turn back. Fear is their greatest defense. I doubt if the actual security there is any greater than it was on Aquilae or Sullust. And what there is is most likely directed towards a large-scale assault.

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No personal canon. I exist in the badlands where all Star Wars media may or may not have happened. A New Hope and The Freemaker Adventures are on the same level of canonicity.

Reading R + L ≠ J theories

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The only acceptable canon is Auralnauts’ Star Wars saga.

YOU PROMISED ME FLESH!

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To me it’s in tiers as well.

  1. Episodes I - VI, 2003 CW Microseries
  2. TCW, Rebels, Solo, Rogue One
  3. Other EU stuff I enjoy - books, comics, etc. - both from the Disney era and the Lucas era

The ST is in a weird spot for me, canonically. More often than not I find myself trying to fall in love with the movies but it’s just so hard to see them as a good continuation of the story. The good thing is that its biggest strengths lie in the trilogy as a meta narrative, each movie trying to communicate with the previous six in different ways. TFA and TROS I really dislike but TLJ I find a fitting coda to the saga. How “canon” those events are, though, is a different beast and I tend not to give it too much thought.

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Being serious this time, I also have tiers.

  1. Hal9000’s prequel edits, Adywan’s OT edits (with 4K83 filling in for ROTJ), and Hal9000’s sequel edits
  2. Clone Wars 3D cartoon, the Maul-centric episodes of Rebels, The Mandalorian and its spin-offs, and Solo.
  3. The various Legends and Canon stuff I enjoy - even if it slightly contradicts itself. I’ll take the novel Death Star over Rouge One any day of the week. I’ll also acknowledge the Thrawn Trilogy over Rebels Thrawn.

I like to pick and choose.

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Yeah, I also tend to have a tier-like system for organizing various parts of the franchise.

1st tier: The original trilogy (either theatrical or Revisited)
2nd tier: The prequel trilogy (Hal9000 edits)
3rd tier: Rogue One, Solo, Mandalorian, certain episodes of Clone Wars, and future live action shows
4th tier: Any other stuff that I happen to like

Like with many others, the sequels are in a bit of a weird spot for me. I genuinely like TLJ, and I can enjoy TFA and TROS as big dumb fanservice flicks, but I just can’t accept them as being the “true” conclusion to the story. I can tolerate them much more when separated from the rest of the franchise. Also, I genuinely can’t stand Rebels, and if the live action shows end up being impossible to separate from that storyline it would be a real shame.

My preferred Skywalker Saga experience:
I II III IV V VI VII VIII IX

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In the previous page, I only described my personal Canon very vaguely, therefore I want to create a more detailed post. So… my personal Star Wars Canon Is the following:

  • Dawn of the Jedi: Into the Void
  • Dawn of the Jedi (comics)
  • Tales of the Jedi (comics)
  • Knights of the Old Republic (comics)
  • Knights of the Old Republic I
  • The Old Republic: Revan
  • Knights of the Old Republic II
  • The Old Republic: Deceived
  • The Old Republic: Fatal Alliance
  • Star Wars: The Old Republic (original game)
  • The Old Republic (comics)
  • The Old Republic: Annihilation
  • The Old Republic: Rise of the Hutt Cartel
  • The Old Republic: Shadow of Revan
  • The Old Republic: Knights of the Fallen Empire
  • The Old Republic: Knights of the Eternal Throne
  • Knight Errant (comics and novel)
  • The Darth Bane Trilogy
  • Darth Plagueis (novel)
  • Jedi: The Dark Side
  • Jedi Apprentice (series)
  • Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan: The Aurorient Express
  • Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan: Last Stand on Ord Mantell
  • Maul: Lockdown
  • Jedi Council: Acts of War
  • Star Wars: Darth Maul (comics)
  • Republic comics (from Issue 1 to 6)
  • Darth Maul: Saboteur
  • Cloak of Deception
  • Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter
  • Episode I: The Phantom Menace
  • Bounty Hunter
  • Jango Fett: Open Seasons
  • Republic comics (from issue 7 to 49)
  • Rogue Planet
  • Jedi Quest (series)
  • Outbound Flight
  • The Approaching Storm
  • Episode II: Attack of the Clones
  • Republic Commando (video game)
  • Republic Commando (novel series)
  • The Clone Wars (2002 video game)
  • Republic comics (from issue 50 to 83)
  • The Cestus Deception
  • Star Wars: Jedi (comic series)
  • Shatterpoint
  • The MedStar Duology
  • Secrets of the Jedi
  • Star Wars: General Grievous (comics)
  • Star Wars: Obsession (comics)
  • Jedi Trial
  • Yoda: Dark Rendezvous
  • Star Wars: Brothers in Arms
  • Labyrinth of Evil
  • Episode III: Revenge of the Sith
  • Kenobi (novel)
  • Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader
  • Star Wars: Purge (comic series)
  • Star Wars: Dark Times (series)
  • Darth Vader and the Ghost Prison
  • The Coruscant Knights Trilogy
  • The Last of the Jedi (series)
  • The Last Jedi (novel)
  • Star Wars: Old Wounds (comic)
  • Darth Vader and the Cry of Shadows
  • The Han Solo Trilogy
  • Death Star (novel)
  • The Force Unleashed (novelization)
  • Star Wars: Extinction (comic series)
  • Star Wars: Empire (comic series)
  • Episode IV: A New Hope
  • Star Wars: Dark Forces
  • Star Wars: Rebellion (comic series)
  • Scoundrells
  • Star Wars: Rebel Forces (series)
  • Allegiance
  • Choices of One
  • Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back
  • Shadows of the Empire
  • Mara Jade: By The Emperor’s Hand
  • Episode VI: Return of the Jedi
  • The Truce at Bakura
  • Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor
  • Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II
  • The X-Wing series
  • The Courtship of Princess Leia
  • Tatooine Ghost
  • The Thrawn Trilogy
  • The Jedi Academy Trilogy
  • Jedi Academy: Leviathan
  • Jedi Outcast
  • Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy
  • The Hand of Thrawn Duology
  • Star Wars: Union
  • Junior Jedi Knights (series)
  • Young Jedi Knights (series)
  • The New Jedi Order (series)

My personal Canon ends with the New Jedi Order series. In my opinion, it’s the perfect ending to both the Expanded Universe and the story of the Skywalker family, and it’s the good ending that our heroes deserve. Apart from that, I don’t accept The Clone Wars as part of my personal Canon, because I prefer the Dark Horse comics and the Clone Wars Multimedia Project. Also, I don’t accept the Dark Empire Trilogy, because I don’t like the idea of Palpatine coming back from the dead, since it contradicts the Chosen One Prophecy established in the Prequels and accomplished by Anakin in Return of the Jedi.

«This is where the fun begins!»
(Anakin Skywalker)

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For me, the true canon is I-VI and the 2008 The Clone Wars Series. Everything else I basically consider fan fiction that ranges from great/authentic to not very good. I do love most of the content we’ve gotten in the Disney era with the exception of The Rise of Skywalker.

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These canon/legends works are canon to my fanfic verse.

Solo
Rogue One
Star Wars (Theatrical)
The Red One (From A Certain Point of View chapter)
The Luckless Rodian (From A Certain Point of View chapter)
The Empire Strikes Back (Theatrical)
Return of the Jedi (Theatrical)
Heir to the Empire
Dark Force Rising
The Last Command

The sequel trilogy is an alternate universe.

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Original unaltered trilogy
Thrawn trilogy of books
Holiday special

I really don’t get too caught up on what’s canon, and what’s not. And even if I don’t consider something in my personal canon does not mean I refuse to watch it. There are things about the other movies I really like (specifically TFA, which I would include if it didn’t contradict Heir to the Empire). This is just the stuff I consider to be the main story(and the best content) in my head. I’m yet to delve into more of the EU, but from what I’ve read, I anticipate liking it.

Ooh, maybe the Muppet show episode too

You’ll laugh! You’ll cry! You’ll kiss three bucks goodbye!

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The entire “Legends” timeline.

Movies, comics, novels, TV and all.

I’m not really that much of a movie purist. I really should’ve thought my name out a bit more.

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I’m new to the forum, so I’m not sure where my take falls, but outside a few wins I’m really not a fan of what Disney has done with Star Wars. I was always a big lover of the EU; so my personal canon is really just ‘Legends’ and as much of TCW as can be fit without contradiction the original Clone Wars media project I grew up with.

That said, there are sparks of what I believe could have been great in the Disney canon, I just feel it gets lost. I genuinely found Ben Solo a better character than Jacen Solo, but I also feel he was wasted, and his story cut short too abruptly. I enjoy the Mandalorian, but I also feel that as it goes on, Grogu is becoming too much of a plot device and too central to who the Mando is, and in a larger sense the character really should have been Boba Fett.

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Servii said:

I don’t really have a strict personal canon. For me, it’s more like “tiers” of canon, like what we used to have with the old EU. So here are my “tiers”:

A-tier: Unaltered Original Trilogy
B-tier: Prequel Trilogy, Special Editions, Movie Novelizations/Radio Dramas
C-tier: Good Expanded Universe stories
D-tier: Bad Expanded Universe stories
E-tier: Fan films/fiction

Disney canon is a separate entity, in my mind.

Much the same, though I’d place the novelizations in C-tier or their own tier.

“The Anarchists are right in everything; in the negation of the existing order and in the assertion that, without Authority there could not be worse violence than that of Authority under existing conditions. They are mistaken only in thinking that anarchy can be instituted by a violent revolution… There can be only one permanent revolution — a moral one: the regeneration of the inner man. How is this revolution to take place? Nobody knows how it will take place in humanity, but every man feels it clearly in himself. And yet in our world everybody thinks of changing humanity, and nobody thinks of changing himself.”

― Leo Tolstoy

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In hindsight, I’d probably go ahead and put Rogue One in C-tier, as well.

But we can’t turn back. Fear is their greatest defense. I doubt if the actual security there is any greater than it was on Aquilae or Sullust. And what there is is most likely directed towards a large-scale assault.

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I’m new to the forum, so I’m not sure where my take falls, but outside a few wins I’m really not a fan of what Disney has done with Star Wars. I was always a big lover of the EU; so my personal canon is really just ‘Legends’ and as much of TCW as can be fit without contradiction the original Clone Wars media project I grew up with.

I totally agree with that. I don’t like at all what Disney has done so far too, except for Rogue One (though I still don’t consider it strictly Canon). I also agree about TCW. I much prefer the Clone Wars Multimedia Project over TCW too.

«This is where the fun begins!»
(Anakin Skywalker)

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Episode 1
Episode 2
Clone Wars 2D cartoon
Episode 3
Star Wars: Republic Commando video game
Dark Forces 1 video game
The Force Unleashed 1 video game
Episode 4
Episode 5
Episode 6

Alixen said:

I’m new to the forum, so I’m not sure where my take falls, but outside a few wins I’m really not a fan of what Disney has done with Star Wars. I was always a big lover of the EU; so my personal canon is really just ‘Legends’ and as much of TCW as can be fit without contradiction the original Clone Wars media project I grew up with.

Pretty much the same here.

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The radio dramas are a good start. Episode III kind of fits in. I and II can work as spin-offs. And the sequel trilogy doesn’t count. Legends or Bust!

Ol’ George has the GOUT, I see.

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Moved from headcanon thread to here

This surely breaks up quite a bit of continuity.

“Get over violence, madness and death? What else is there?”

Also known as Mr. Liquid Jungle.

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Moved from headcanon thread to here

This surely breaks up quite a bit of continuity.

I don’t think it makes much sense. I mean, if you don’t want to accept the Prequel Trilogy as it is, then you could accept the Attack of the Clones novelization as Episode I, then Labyrinth of Evil as Episode II and the Revenge of the Sith novelization as Episode III, plus the Clone Wars Multimedia Project. But accepting the Clone Wars Multimedia Project and at the same time TCW and The Bad Batch makes no sense, there are too many contradictions between these things.

«This is where the fun begins!»
(Anakin Skywalker)

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I sort of see the saga as having different “timelines.”

So for example, there’s the OT timeline which is just the OT, another is the OT and the Ewok movies. One has the PT, and the altered variants of the OT. One variant of that includes The Clone Wars (2008). Another variant is only altered OT + Solo.

Now for my “personal canon” I see it this way:
The Clone Wars (2008), Solo, custom altered OT, Ewoks.

I’ve also got one I like to use for EU stories I enjoy and it is as follows:
Custom altered OT, The Han Solo adventures by Brian Daley, Splinter of the Mind’s Eye, Shadows of the Empire, Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor, The Jedi Academy Trilogy (?).

I don’t really like the idea of canon, I tend to just focus on what I do enjoy and pair it up with whatever fits thematically if that makes sense.

Move along, move along.

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Tales of the Jedi comics
Knights of the Old Republic 1 and 2
Dark Forces and Jedi Knight series
Unaltered Original Trilogy
Shadows of the Empire
All Timothy Zahn books
The Mandalorian seasons 1 and 2
specific video games, comics, RPG supplements, books, etc. on a case by case basis

separate prequel thing if the prequels happened:
Darth Plagueis novel
Select elements of The Phantom Menace
Shatterpoint
Republic Commando game
Genndy Tartakovsky Clone Wars
Select elements of Revenge of the Sith
Kenobi novel
specific video games, comics, RPG supplements, books, etc. on a case by case basis

if you forced me to make a Disney canon of real movies that actually exist:
The Phantom Menace
Revenge of the Sith
Solo
Andor
Rogue One
Original Trilogy
The Mandalorian seasons 1 and 2