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I like the way you think DZ-330! However personally, my only concern with that order would be you lose the transition from Chewie howling to Kylo standing alone on the Death Star, which I would be really sad to see go. I just think it works quite well and was pretty impactful the first time I saw it in cinemas.


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Chase Adams said:

I like the way you think DZ-330! However personally, my only concern with that order would be you lose the transition from Chewie howling to Kylo standing alone on the Death Star, which I would be really sad to see go. I just think it works quite well and was pretty impactful the first time I saw it in cinemas.

How about this way? I may try mocking something up.

Focus on Leia:

  • Poe, Finn and Chewie Receive the News
  • Kylo Ren’s Redemption
  • Poe Talks to Leia & Lando
  • Palpatine Informs Pryde

Droids:

  • Finn Talks to D-O
  • Reunite & Artoo Restores Threepio’s Memory

Rey:

  • Finn & Poe Talk About Occhi
  • Rey & Luke’s Scene
  • Resistance Track Rey

The Skywalker Saga:
I · II · III · IV · V · VI · VII · VIII · IX
This is the way.

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I personally still like moving Kylo Ren’s redemption to later on, as I feel the transition from Rey getting confidence to going back to what has happened to Ben means a great deal. I never really liked how sudden they redeemed Ben, as I feel that having a longer time to think and reconsider makes the scene play out stronger.

The name’s Lawson. Noah Lawson.

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Master Lawdog said:

Here is a compilation I made for the Rey Nobody version. I’ll also post this to that thread. Let me know if it works.

https://vimeo.com/580074316
PASSWORD: fanedit

Onboard with a restructure similar to this, works well. Have been hoping for Palpatine’s hologram call with Pryde to salvaged with the elimination of Kajimmi destruction I like how it cuts back to the memory restoration scene.

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Cinefy said:

Master Lawdog said:

Here is a compilation I made for the Rey Nobody version. I’ll also post this to that thread. Let me know if it works.

https://vimeo.com/580074316
PASSWORD: fanedit

Onboard with a restructure similar to this, works well. Have been hoping for Palpatine’s hologram call with Pryde to salvaged with the elimination of Kajimmi destruction I like how it cuts back to the memory restoration scene.

Thank you, Cinefy.

The name’s Lawson. Noah Lawson.

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Just made a quick mock-up. Here is my order:

  • Poe, Finn and Chewie Receive the News
  • Kylo Ren’s Redemption
  • Poe Talks to Leia & Lando
  • Finn Talks to D-O
  • Reunite & Artoo Restores Threepio’s Memory (trim out R2 reporting a signal)
  • Finn & Poe Talk About Occhi
  • Palpatine Informs Pryde (with Star Destroyer establishing shot)
  • Rey & Luke’s Scene
  • Resistance Track Rey

Link: https://vimeo.com/583203979
PW: fanedit

JEDIT: I think learning from D-O that Palp’s plan is for Rey being alive, and then the NEXT scene he talks to Pryde about Rey coming to him plays out extremely well. Then we cut to Rey deciding to go followed by the Resistance tracking her ship and following. In my opinion, it flows so much better. Hopefully y’all agree…

The Skywalker Saga:
I · II · III · IV · V · VI · VII · VIII · IX
This is the way.

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I don’t see the point of reordering these scenes, the way they are originally flow well from one to the next - the news of Leia’s death leads into Ben’s redemption (the result of Leia’s sacrifice), Poe and Finn’s scenes flow into each other and lead into Rey on Ach-to, The droid reunion leads into Rey’s signal (which gives the scene a point). Breaking this flow just makes it feel more like a collection of disjointed scenes.

Also @DZ-330 Hal has removed Finn’s line “He wanted her alive” to simplify Palp’s scheme.

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Burbin said:

Also @DZ-330 Hal has removed Finn’s line “He wanted her alive” to simplify Palp’s scheme.

Oh yeah! That’s right. Long day today 😕

I think part of why a restructure may help is that it helps with the flow of time more. Either way works though 🤷‍♂️

The Skywalker Saga:
I · II · III · IV · V · VI · VII · VIII · IX
This is the way.

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Hal 9000 said:

I don’t plan to reorder that sequence, and I feel the original order makes sense and flows well.

It’s not a bad flow, I just think moving Kylo Ren’s redemption to later gives him more time to think and reconsider. Plus, I kinda think Finn and Poe’s scenes should be reversed before they talk about Occhi. But hey, that’s just my opinion.

The name’s Lawson. Noah Lawson.

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Anything to help show a passage of time would be great. Having Rey and Ben on their own for longer helps the story.

The Skywalker Saga:
I · II · III · IV · V · VI · VII · VIII · IX
This is the way.

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The flow of the beginning of the movie never made much sense to me (even while seeing it the first time) so I’m glad we changed that. But the flow of the ending scenes never felt off to me at all. So I agree with Hal that we should keep it the way it is.

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I like the idea of moving the scene of Threepio not remembering Artoo to earlier, having it end on a more ambiguous note, and then moving the actual memory restoration to later.

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Well, are ya, punk?

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I gave “the birth of her son” line another shot.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/12o6iDk10OUCivWg6vf-Z1sDr0TyJd5Q_/view

I found a source that could be helpful if anyone here wants to play around to get it to sound right. There is a text to speech voice cloning machine that has a cloned sample of Mark Hamill as the Joker. Maybe someone here can do a better job than me.

The name’s Lawson. Noah Lawson.

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Just thinking out loud here…can anything be done about the whole “Jedi texts” discrepancy? In TLJ, they establish that they are “The original Jedi texts…the last of the Jedi religion.” Luke even says that the whole tree thingy was built to house them; but then admits later to Yoda that he’s never even read them.

Come TROS, not only has Luke read them, but he’s apparently been using them as his personal journal, cataloguing his adventures? So, like…I dunno, that’s weird, right? Potentially, could the line be changed to:

REY: I know how to get to Exegol.
LEIA: Tell me.
REY: There are ciphers here I can’t read. But he said to get there, you need one of these. A Sith wayfinder. They’re compasses that lead the way to Exegol. To stop what we both know is coming… I need to finish what Luke started. Find Exegol. Find the Emperor.
LEIA: Piss off, Rey.

“Finish what Luke started” now referring to the general destruction of the Emperor/First Order, rather than specifically “The Quest…for the Magic Wayfinder!!”

(Hell, why would the original Jedi texts even discuss Sith Wayfinders anyway? You’re trying to establish a new religion; why would you lead your followers to the people diametrically opposed to your beliefs? But whatever.)


Sorry I haven’t been too involved lately. Life and whatnot. Hopefully I can get back into the game soon! Maybe even work on this idea if people are interested.

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I don’t think it’s an issue. Luke’s journal was among the Jedi texts Rey took, the rest of which were ancient. No contradiction.

And Luke technically never said he didn’t read the books. More likely Luke read them at some point, but perhaps decades ago, and has not remained devotional.

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Neerb said:

I don’t think it’s an issue. Luke’s journal was among the Jedi texts Rey took, the rest of which were ancient. No contradiction.

And Luke technically never said he didn’t read the books. More likely Luke read them at some point, but perhaps decades ago, and has not remained devotional.

I agree, although it’s a fair point. It feels slightly incongruent at first blush, but there were multiple “texts” in “that library.”

My stance on revising fan edits.

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Hal 9000 said:

Neerb said:

I don’t think it’s an issue. Luke’s journal was among the Jedi texts Rey took, the rest of which were ancient. No contradiction.

And Luke technically never said he didn’t read the books. More likely Luke read them at some point, but perhaps decades ago, and has not remained devotional.

I agree, although it’s a fair point. It feels slightly incongruent at first blush, but there were multiple “texts” in “that library.”

The most sacred place in Jedi history…housing the most important and holy of all texts…the last remnants of the once-great Jedi Order…

LUKE: “Goddamn, is this the only bookshelf on the whole stupid island? Where am I going to keep all of my stuff? In any of the dozens of huts around mine?”

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Luke kept his journal in his hut, with his wallet and valuables. Rey just robbed him blind.

A lifetime of scaveging is hard to break.

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Neerb said:

Luke kept his journal in his hut, with his wallet and valuables. Rey just robbed him blind.

A lifetime of scaveging is hard to break.

Ha! I always figured she went back with Leia & got his personal effects after Crait but pre-TROS, but that’s hysterical.

“That’s not how the Force works!”

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Sorry if this is a stupid question, but when exactly does Luke say that he’s never read them? I’ve heard people say that before but I still to this day don’t know how people got that out of the Yoda scene.

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“Read them have you? Page turners they were not.”

heil Palpatine!

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Ah I just never interpreted it that way I suppose. Just because they weren’t page turners doesn’t mean he hasn’t read them. School textbooks aren’t page turners but we still read them if we want to pass our classes lol.