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I don't think Revenge Of The Sith is as good as everyone says it is. — Page 3

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zzzonkers said:

SparkySywer said:

Not sure which of the prequels is the best/least-bad. RotS is the easiest to swallow, but TPM has the actual story. And as for AotC, well, it’s cringier than TPM and only barely has more of a story than RotS, but it has some cool action scenes and the Obi-Wan part of the movie is kind of cool.

I’d argue that RotS is just as “cringe” as the other two, but hides it well behind slightly more competent direction and more lively acting.

Yeah, I’d agree. I’d say it’s more that all three prequels have the same amount of cheese, but for TPM and AotC, it rears its head as cringe, but for RotS, it’s camp. Or at least, it’s cringe more often in TPM and AotC, but camp more often in RotS. All three have both.

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AOTC actually tries to have a mystery plot, which is a new and interesting direction for a Star Wars movie. Even if it doesn’t ultimately work, it at least tries. In comparison, TPM and ROTS are much more straightforward.

In my opinion RotS felt too fan service focused

Yeah, honestly, Revenge of the Sith doesn’t have much of a leg to stand on outside the forced OT fan service at the end. Had it ended with the characters and the galaxy a little further from the exact same state as they are at the beginning of ANH, like a better Episode 3 might have, it would have had nothing left.

I rewatched Revenge of the Sith the other day for, reasons, but genuinely I think the only way anyone can be so much of a fan of this movie that they call it a masterpiece, like some people do nowadays, is just out of nostalgia, and because of the forced connection to the OT at the end. That’s it.

The movie feels like a bunch of skits barely strung together by any plot, if even. Sometimes shit just happens for no reason. It feels like behind the scenes, they just kinda gave up on trying to write a story and just thought up a few lightsaber fights first and foremost and figured they’d just figure out how to justify them with context as they went, if even, since the lightsaber fights were the only thing people responded well to in the last two movies.

The pacing’s horrible. Every scene goes on forever and ever, every single time I feel like a scene’s over, it keeps going. Like, George, dude, the message was already sent. The point got across. Move on. The editing looks like the kind of shit I would’ve done when I was 14. The movie feels like George Lucas just stopped giving a shit after the last two didn’t do well, finished this movie as a formality because, well, you already signed the actors for one last movie.

Because of this, there’s absolutely no tension. George Lucas couldn’t bring himself to give a shit about this movie, and so I can’t either. Stuff just kinda happens, and then stops happening, scenes just kinda move on. Everyone’s super monotone the whole time, and so it’s a hard sell that this is a galaxy defining catastrophe.

This is why parodies of the prequels, or even stuff like the Lego Holiday Special are a hundred times better than the prequels themselves, even just following the story, not even as parodies. The people parodying the prequels give a shit, so the characters give a shit, so I give a shit.

This movie never really does anything praiseworthy, the best it ever really gets is not incompetent. Like, prequel fans gush over the political message, but that’s like, the bare minimum for a movie about how the Republic fell and the Empire was born. It’s not even a very interesting political message. Democracies can turn into dictatorships through their own mechanisms? Wow, I learned that when I was in sixth grade history class when I was eleven. Not exactly the political thriller of the century.

Sorry for the wall of text, but I wanted to share the thoughts I was having the other day with the world. This probably isn’t well organized at all though, so who knows how well it’ll convey them.

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Revenge of the Sith is great. I love the film. It’s my second favourite of the Prequels and fourth overall in my rankings as of right now. I don’t get why some people call Anakin’s fall to the Dark Side rushed as we see it being built to in the previous two films. In The Phantom Menace we see Anakin’s fear and in Attack of the Clones we see his anger and in Revenge of the Sith we see his hate. As our wise green friend says: “Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.”

“Heroes come in all sizes, and you don’t have to be a giant hero. You can be a very small hero. It’s just as important to understand that accepting self-responsibility for the things you do, having good manners, caring about other people - these are heroic acts. Everybody has the choice of being a hero or not being a hero every day of their lives.” - George Lucas

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Stardust1138 said:

Revenge of the Sith is great. I love the film. It’s my second favourite of the Prequels and fourth overall in my rankings as of right now. I don’t get why some people call Anakin’s fall to the Dark Side rushed as we see it being built to in the previous two films. In The Phantom Menace we see Anakin’s fear and in Attack of the Clones we see his anger and in Revenge of the Sith we see his hate. As our wise green friend says: “Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.”

Agreed 100%. I think that all three prequels are really strong additions to the saga. I go back and forth between ROTS and TPM as my personal favorite. ROTS has the tragic angle and some of the best action in the PT but struggles at times to wrap everything up and set up the needed status quo for ANH. TPM is better plotted and has some really interesting world building. It also has the best lightsaber duel in the entire saga. The climax is admittedly overstuffed though and the first 20 minutes or so feel really rushed. I like AOTC but it looses some points because of the Sifo Dyas mystery angle, which was never really wrapped up until TCW, and some of the more over-the-top romantic dialogue.

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Makes me laugh when I see YouTubers and the new influx of vocal fans saying we’d have been better off served with a George Lucas approved sequels. He’s an absolute legend but the prequels are the evidence we need where he wanted to give us something different each time. New Planets, new spaceships and yes, new villains.

The biggest issue with the Prequels was having a new main villain each film. Had they stuck with Maul it could have been amazing, however Dooku was okay if a little LOTR esque. But General Grievious wiedling toy lightsabers whilst Ewan McGregor balances against a green screen to wield against nothing before hopping on a computer generated lizard where the only real element is his head.

I want to enjoy it I really do and there are good moments but time hasn’t been kind. Plus with Vader murdering a load of Jedi kids…being a parent myself it kinda makes his redemption touch to acknowledge now. So don’t bother with the prequels if I can help it.

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PressFireToPlay said:

I want to enjoy it I really do and there are good moments but time hasn’t been kind. Plus with Vader murdering a load of Jedi kids…being a parent myself it kinda makes his redemption touch to acknowledge now. So don’t bother with the prequels if I can help it.

He’s a party to mass murder on a planetary scale in the OT, you can’t really get any lower then that.

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daveinthecave said:

Stardust1138 said:

Revenge of the Sith is great. I love the film. It’s my second favourite of the Prequels and fourth overall in my rankings as of right now. I don’t get why some people call Anakin’s fall to the Dark Side rushed as we see it being built to in the previous two films. In The Phantom Menace we see Anakin’s fear and in Attack of the Clones we see his anger and in Revenge of the Sith we see his hate. As our wise green friend says: “Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.”

Agreed 100%. I think that all three prequels are really strong additions to the saga. I go back and forth between ROTS and TPM as my personal favorite. ROTS has the tragic angle and some of the best action in the PT but struggles at times to wrap everything up and set up the needed status quo for ANH. TPM is better plotted and has some really interesting world building. It also has the best lightsaber duel in the entire saga. The climax is admittedly overstuffed though and the first 20 minutes or so feel really rushed. I like AOTC but it looses some points because of the Sifo Dyas mystery angle, which was never really wrapped up until TCW, and some of the more over-the-top romantic dialogue.

Sorry I never saw you replied!

I can so understand what you mean! I honestly love TPM. It’s my favourite Star Wars film. I’ve posted on the rankings thread in great detail why it’s my favourite. AOTC is probably the weakest of George’s six films but it’s also really grown on me in a very big way the last year. I think seeing world building like Coruscant become more commercial, Anakin and Padme have to travel as refugees, Padme contrasting Palpatine by letting go her position of power, and other layered aspects really make for an interesting viewing when you consider the gradual change of tone in each entry. I’m firmly in the minority but I love Anakin and Padme’s romance. They’re both repressed and don’t know what love feels like. It’s not meant to be smooth and will be awkward. However their love overtakes all in the end. I really like when Padme tells Anakin: “Anakin, don’t try to grow up too fast.” It’s so simple yet it feels right. Even Anakin telling Padme: “The thought of not being with you - I can’t breathe.” is great foreshadowing. I do wish there were more clarity to the mystery of Sifo-Dyas. That’s probably the biggest thing I wish had been addressed further in the films. It’s one reason I loved the idea of Snoke as Plagueis. He would’ve influenced Sifo-Dyas to order the Clone Army and he and Palpatine would’ve built the Empire in partnership. Master and Apprentice. There’s always a bigger fish. Anyways, Revenge of the Sith is a great film. I only have minor nitpicks.

My rankings right now are: I, IV, V, III, VI, II, VIII, VII, and IX.

“Heroes come in all sizes, and you don’t have to be a giant hero. You can be a very small hero. It’s just as important to understand that accepting self-responsibility for the things you do, having good manners, caring about other people - these are heroic acts. Everybody has the choice of being a hero or not being a hero every day of their lives.” - George Lucas

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Stardust1138 said:

Sorry I never saw you replied!

I can so understand what you mean! I honestly love TPM. It’s my favourite Star Wars film. I’ve posted on the rankings thread in great detail why it’s my favourite. AOTC is probably the weakest of George’s six films but it’s also really grown on me in a very big way the last year. I think seeing world building like Coruscant become more commercial, Anakin and Padme have to travel as refugees, Padme contrasting Palpatine by letting go her position of power, and other layered aspects really make for an interesting viewing when you consider the gradual change of tone in each entry. I’m firmly in the minority but I love Anakin and Padme’s romance. They’re both repressed and don’t know what love feels like. It’s not meant to be smooth and will be awkward. However their love overtakes all in the end. I really like when Padme tells Anakin: “Anakin, don’t try to grow up too fast.” It’s so simple yet it feels right. Even Anakin telling Padme: “The thought of not being with you - I can’t breathe.” is great foreshadowing. I do wish there were more clarity to the mystery of Sifo-Dyas. That’s probably the biggest thing I wish had been addressed further in the films. It’s one reason I loved the idea of Snoke as Plagueis. He would’ve influenced Sifo-Dyas to order the Clone Army and he and Palpatine would’ve built the Empire in partnership. Master and Apprentice. There’s always a bigger fish. Anyways, Revenge of the Sith is a great film. I only have minor nitpicks.

My rankings right now are: I, IV, V, III, VI, II, VIII, VII, and IX.

I actually like the romance as well. It’s mainly the fireplace scene that doesn’t work for me. Most of the dialogue matches the awkward/repressed angle that you talked about but in that scene it sounds more Shakespearean and it doesn’t really fit.

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daveinthecave said:

Stardust1138 said:

Sorry I never saw you replied!

I can so understand what you mean! I honestly love TPM. It’s my favourite Star Wars film. I’ve posted on the rankings thread in great detail why it’s my favourite. AOTC is probably the weakest of George’s six films but it’s also really grown on me in a very big way the last year. I think seeing world building like Coruscant become more commercial, Anakin and Padme have to travel as refugees, Padme contrasting Palpatine by letting go her position of power, and other layered aspects really make for an interesting viewing when you consider the gradual change of tone in each entry. I’m firmly in the minority but I love Anakin and Padme’s romance. They’re both repressed and don’t know what love feels like. It’s not meant to be smooth and will be awkward. However their love overtakes all in the end. I really like when Padme tells Anakin: “Anakin, don’t try to grow up too fast.” It’s so simple yet it feels right. Even Anakin telling Padme: “The thought of not being with you - I can’t breathe.” is great foreshadowing. I do wish there were more clarity to the mystery of Sifo-Dyas. That’s probably the biggest thing I wish had been addressed further in the films. It’s one reason I loved the idea of Snoke as Plagueis. He would’ve influenced Sifo-Dyas to order the Clone Army and he and Palpatine would’ve built the Empire in partnership. Master and Apprentice. There’s always a bigger fish. Anyways, Revenge of the Sith is a great film. I only have minor nitpicks.

My rankings right now are: I, IV, V, III, VI, II, VIII, VII, and IX.

I actually like the romance as well. It’s mainly the fireplace scene that doesn’t work for me. Most of the dialogue matches the awkward/repressed angle that you talked about but in that scene it sounds more Shakespearean and it doesn’t really fit.

I can certainly understand what you mean. It’s certainly not my favourite scene but I think catching on to the breathing foreshadowing made the scene a lot better for me. It’s such a simple catch and you miss moment.

I was also mistaken. My thoughts (in part) on The Phantom Menace is here.

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Phantom-Menace-anyone-want-to-chat-about-TPM/id/72493/page/2#1366806

Out of curiosity, how do you rank the Skywalker saga films?

“Heroes come in all sizes, and you don’t have to be a giant hero. You can be a very small hero. It’s just as important to understand that accepting self-responsibility for the things you do, having good manners, caring about other people - these are heroic acts. Everybody has the choice of being a hero or not being a hero every day of their lives.” - George Lucas

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Stardust1138 said:

I can certainly understand what you mean. It’s certainly not my favourite scene but I think catching on to the breathing foreshadowing made the scene a lot better for me. It’s such a simple catch and you miss moment.

I’ll have to watch for that on my next viewing of the saga.

Stardust1138 said:

I was also mistaken. My thoughts (in part) on The Phantom Menace is here.

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Phantom-Menace-anyone-want-to-chat-about-TPM/id/72493/page/2#1366806

Out of curiosity, how do you rank the Skywalker saga films?

That thread had a lot of really interesting takes on TPM. I enjoyed reading through it.

As for my ranking I still have a preference for the OT despite the fact that the PT has grown on me a lot these past few years but its not set in stone and will likely change over time.

V > IV > VI > III > I > II >> VII > VIII > IX

TPM and ROTS are really close for me, as I said, and so are ROTJ and ANH.

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daveinthecave said:

Stardust1138 said:

I can certainly understand what you mean. It’s certainly not my favourite scene but I think catching on to the breathing foreshadowing made the scene a lot better for me. It’s such a simple catch and you miss moment.

I’ll have to watch for that on my next viewing of the saga.

Stardust1138 said:

I was also mistaken. My thoughts (in part) on The Phantom Menace is here.

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Phantom-Menace-anyone-want-to-chat-about-TPM/id/72493/page/2#1366806

Out of curiosity, how do you rank the Skywalker saga films?

That thread had a lot of really interesting takes on TPM. I enjoyed reading through it.

As for my ranking I still have a preference for the OT despite the fact that the PT has grown on me a lot these past few years but its not set in stone and will likely change over time.

V > IV > VI > III > I > II >> VII > VIII > IX

TPM and ROTS are really close for me, as I said, and so are ROTJ and ANH.

This is a good video that really puts the dialogue in prospective.

https://youtu.be/S5E-eSdRjXs

I agree. It’s a really fun thread. It’s good to see a positive discussion for it.

That’s certainly fair and I look forward to seeing how your rankings change and evolve.

That’s understandable. I could honestly rank any of George’s six films first. When it comes to the Sequels I have a harder time with where to place The Force Awakens and The Rise of Skywalker. I’ve only watched The Rise of Skywalker once all the way through but I remember it has my favourite scene in the trilogy (Luke and Leia training together as without context it’s so beautiful to see) but it also dismisses Anakin’s arc and legacy. It’s really tricky as both (and The Last Jedi for that matter) have problems. I think separating them from George’s six films makes it easier to enjoy them on some level but for some reason I still feel burned out by Disney Star Wars. It’s a tricky tightrope between being able to enjoy this era for what it is and yet being so lost for words and longing for George.

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I think ROTS is thousand light years from the OT movies and even inferior to any of the sequels, I would only put it over AOTC and HS, because it’s screenplay is really weak. Dialogues are lacking depth and are always trying to be important but they are empty. The film tries to hide its lack of quality putting epic and dramatic moments every 5 minutes. I always liked the last 30 minutes that are connecting really good with the OT and feel like true Star Wars, but even the big duel is more a CGI spectacle than a real big quality cinema scene. The first dialogues during the space battle are too childish and the movie has some absurd or ridiculous moments like Palpatine’s face and expressions during his duel with Mace or Dooku’s death scene. And all the Utapau battles look dated and too much CGI charged, including that Grievous-Obi Wan battle that has really bad CGI and I personally don’t find any interest in that droid-organic character that is always coughing and it’s supposed to be a great villain. Order 66, Yoda farewell from the Wookies, Yoda and Obi Wan incursion into the Jedi Temple are some other moments I like besides the last half-hour of the film.

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I used to say ROTS was my favorite prequel, but honestly with the more recent surge of adoration for it has turned me against it. TPM is now my pick for best prequel, because it’s the one that feels the most like a movie. Clones and Sith both suffer GREATLY from video game graphics. (Obviously there’s other flaws, but I don’t need to list them here)

I hate how people say because the new ones are so horrible, it makes the prequels good now. No… bad movies are still bad movies. If you genuinely like them(more power to you) then fine, I don’t agree but fine(who I am to tell you what to like), but the logic of bad sequels=good prequels just don’t make sense to me.

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Anecdotally I know someone who just recently saw TCW and watching it made her like the PT less so than before. She’s not a hardcore fan, I introduced her to SW with the original 3 years ago and she slowly started liking the franchise more and more, but she’s definitely not a hardcore fan. She said the show feels like it takes place in a different universe from the movies, that Anakin is an entirely different character and that even if more likeable in the show, he seems even less torn or prone to falling to the dark side than his movie self. She said that Siege of Mandalore Anakin just doesn’t flow well into ROTS Anakin, and I find it hard to disagree with her.

That’s literally me!

I hate how people say because the new ones are so horrible, it makes the prequels good now. No… bad movies are still bad movies. If you genuinely like them(more power to you) then fine, I don’t agree but fine(who I am to tell you what to like), but the logic of bad sequels=good prequels just don’t make sense to me.

I don’t think that the Prequels are bad movies, I genuinely like them. But I totally agree with you on this. Actually - and I say it as a Prequel fan myself - I hate when people say that the Prequels are good exclusively because the Sequels are bad. It shows that you don’t really appreciate the movies, it just means that you are “forgiving” them because you think there are other movies that suck harder than them. Saying that the Prequels are good because the Sequels are bad is like saying: “Oh yeah, they suck, but they suck less than the Sequels.”

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Spartacus01 said:

I don’t think that the Prequels are bad movies, I genuinely like them. But I totally agree with you on this. Actually - and I say it as a Prequel fan myself - I hate when people say that the Prequels are good exclusively because the Sequels are bad. It shows that you don’t really appreciate the movies, it just means that you are “forgiving” them because you think there are other movies that suck harder than them. Saying that the Prequels are good because the Sequels are bad is like saying: “Oh yeah, they suck, but they suck less than the Sequels.”

I agree. Also this might be a controversial opinion, but I think the people who are saying the prequels are good now because the sequels are so bad never really disliked the prequels in the first place. They probably just hated it because everyone else was so they jumped on the bandwagon. And now they’re doing the same thing with the sequels just because now they’re the cool thing to hate on in the Star Wars fandom, and when we get the next big Star Wars trilogy they’ll do the exact same thing, jump on with the people who hate the new movies and then start talking about how the sequels are actually good and it’s this new one that’s actually awful. Note I’m not saying everyone who hated the prequel trilogy and now hate the sequel trilogy are like this, sometimes a movie can come out that you dislike so much that other movies you used to hate don’t seem so bad anymore, but I think a lot of people are just jumping on the hate bandwagon.

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I like the opera scene. and how slick and evil Palpatine is. Still not sold on choose the dark side to save Padme. The movie needed something else for Anakin’s turn.

Worst aspect other than the out of place slapstick comedy, or cartoon cgi graphics are the lightsaber duels, or lack of them.

Wish they had done the battle of the heroes more like Empire’s fight except with the Jedi in their prime. And i wanted Mace to duel Anakin.

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I have a lot of nostalgia for this film and still find it really entertaining for how spectacular it is, but it’s not held up. I used to be one of those “ROTS is ESB tier” people, but I’ve come to accept more of the flaws of the film.

The biggest problem is Anakin’s rushed turn. It’s a good starting point, but Anakin just blindly believes Palpatine’s word about cheating death and betrays everybody he loves. Not to mention, he’s still not enough like OT Darth Vader for most of it.

The movie is better in separated portions. The last half, from Anakin being Knighted Vader (such a chilling scene, even if not earned) to the ending is actually quite stellar. It’s easy for me to got lost in the apocalyptic imagery and operatic music. I like the first half too, especially the opening. But the problem is, they shouldn’t be the same movie.

The first half should be the beginning of the second movie, the second half should be the last half of the third movie. There should be a whole movie in-between exploring Anakin’s turn, having him gradually be seduced by the dark side via the usage of Sith holocrons or something. Have him lose himself more and more in the war. Then have him turn.

But this is what happens when you spend a movie with Anakin as a child and then another with him on a romantic vacation I guess.

I do think this movie is genuinely better then the other two though in some ways. The characterization and pacing is far better. It feels a lot more alive. Obi-Wan is a great character. Then you have Ian McDiarmid too, who’s amazing.

So overall this movie is flawed but enjoyable for me. Not OT level, but fun.

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G&G-Fan said:

The first half should be the beginning of the second movie, the second half should be the last half of the third movie, and there should be a whole movie in-between exploring Anakin’s turn, having him gradually be seduced by the dark side via the usage of Sith holocrons or something. Have him lose himself more and more in the war. Then have him turn.

Yes. Plus you need two full movies to develop a really close bond with Obi Wan, otherwise what’s the point of wading through all that lava in Episode 3. I really wanted ROTS to break my heart. But instead it just sort of made me mildly sad for a few seconds.

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Channel72 said:

G&G-Fan said:

The first half should be the beginning of the second movie, the second half should be the last half of the third movie, and there should be a whole movie in-between exploring Anakin’s turn, having him gradually be seduced by the dark side via the usage of Sith holocrons or something. Have him lose himself more and more in the war. Then have him turn.

Yes. Plus you need two full movies to develop a really close bond with Obi Wan, otherwise what’s the point of wading through all that lava in Episode 3. I really wanted ROTS to break my heart. But instead it just sort of made me mildly sad for a few seconds.

Right, exactly. The prequels tried to do a bunch of things at once, and somehow, the Obi-Ani friendship got pushed to the backburner at some point, which is a huge missed opportunity. A lot of this problem would be fixed if Obi-Wan and Anakin had time together in TPM, or if AotC didn’t split them apart for most of its runtime.

And I agree, G&G-Fan, it would have been cool to see Vader truly become a Sith in a more complete way. Maybe the Outer Rim Sieges lead him to Korriban, and he sees all the evidence of the Sith’s power for himself. It really ought to be a full seduction, not just Palpatine tricking him.

I do enjoy RotS a lot. But it definitely suffers from the problem that every third Star Wars movie suffers from: stuffing too much into one movie. Something that was clearly avoidable, in this case.

But we can’t turn back. Fear is their greatest defense. I doubt if the actual security there is any greater than it was on Aquilae or Sullust. And what there is is most likely directed towards a large-scale assault.

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General Grievous.
Hey Jar Jar Binks was an awful character, can you guys come up with something even worse?

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regularjoe said:

General Grievous.
Hey Jar Jar Binks was an awful character, can you guys come up with something even worse?

Nah General Grievous is kinda one of the better parts of the movie IMO. He’s a cowardly mustache twirling baddie and I love em. He funni

I’m like one of the few people who prefers that portrayal. Just making him “cold badass cyborg Jedi slayer with tragic backstory” is too much like Darth Vader. Let Vader be Vader and the other villains stick out.

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General Grievous being an incompetent “nepotism officer” (promoted due to Dooku’s role in his creation) would also be good. It’d help to ground Vader’s implied dislike of “nepotism officers” in the OT (Ozzel, for instance).

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I like the design of Grevious, and I’m okay with him being pretty incompetent. I see him as kind of like Yoda, you see what the character looks like and expect one thing, but the way they truly are is the complete opposite. Yoda is a weird little frog, but a wise Jedi master. Grevious and Boba Fett are awesome looking, but are actually pathetic.

Move along, move along.

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Like Maul, Grievous only works for me as a piece of concept art.

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