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Unusual Sequel Trilogy Radical Redux Ideas Thread — Page 63

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SparkySywer said:

adobewan said:

Any thoughts on an edit of the sequel trilogy that finishes off the story with The Force Awakens/the battle of Stakiller base? I figure Snoke would likely need to be removed and Kylo could be implied to die when Rey slashes him in their fight. I’m still considering how to wrap up the Luke cliffhanger in a satisfying way. Maybe it could a short training montage and then credits after Rey slashes that rock in half.

Kill off Luke? Instead of having him go missing and the First Order rises in his absence, he dies and the First Order rises in his absense.

I don’t know how well it would work but that’s the only solution to the Luke cliffhanger I can think of.

Definitely would help. Thats really the only outstanding cliffhanger that would need fixing. He’s just kind of the driving force of the current movie so that would have to be changed.

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Heres my idea that would change both the originals and the sequels- DON’T KILL OFF DARTH VADER in Return of the Jedi. 😮 He would still throw the emperor down the shaft and turn good, but he doesn’t take his mask off. Then have him appear in the SEQUELS using other james earl jones dialogue and other footage. Then finally in Episode 9 he would kill the Emperor again and Luke (who would also have to survive, unless we can somehow make it Ben there too) takes his mask off. That way the prophecy thing is kept, Anakin has years to be redeemed, and Sebastian Shaw would then be the right age to play Anakin as an old man. I don’t know maybe this is too much, i was thinking about doing this in my 3 in one but i also don’t want to ruin Reys arc and Lukes arc. What would be so nice and beautiful would be Rey, Ben, Leia, Luke and Anakin, the whole skywalker family all against Palpatine and all not as ghosts but alive, but I don’t know if this is possible.

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It’d certainly make the sequels more interesting to watch.

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I think it would be a good idea to take your ideas to the rewrite section, SkyAnakid. It seems like most of your ideas are impossible to pull off with editing alone.

My preferred Skywalker Saga experience:
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oh sorry! i was trying to think about what could be done with editing, but your right about the last one i think since that would change the story. i might try my anakin idea with editing but i don’t know if that will flow right i feel like it won’t feel natural but its just for fun sort of. But sorry if this is the wrong place i won’t talk about this again unless I can make a good enough edit of it,. sorry again!

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Has anyone thought about a possible way to give the “Master Codebreaker” from TLJ a different introduction? If you think about it, his presence is really the only thing that changes because of the trip to Canto Bight. If he were somehow introduced earlier, like maybe if he were one of the people who tried to desert from the Resistance, then he and Finn and Rose could go straight from the Raddus to the Supremacy and save a lot of time.

You’ve got to ask yourself one question: “Am I making Carrie Fisher’s ghost proud?”
Well, are ya, punk?

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Ed Slushie said:

Has anyone thought about a possible way to give the “Master Codebreaker” from TLJ a different introduction? If you think about it, his presence is really the only thing that changes because of the trip to Canto Bight. If he were somehow introduced earlier, like maybe if he were one of the people who tried to desert from the Resistance, then he and Finn and Rose could go straight from the Raddus to the Supremacy and save a lot of time.

Could possibly edit the code breaker conversation with Poe to adjust it. Confirm you need a code breaker, cut out contacting Maz and needing to find one, then cut to the conversation on the ship that can establish him as the code breaker.

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Instead of contacting Maz, the DJ could be someone one of them already knows and they contact him. He agrees to help, arrives offscreen, and everything proceeds as normal.

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Anakin Starkiller said:

Instead of contacting Maz, the DJ could be someone one of them already knows and they contact him. He agrees to help, arrives offscreen, and everything proceeds as normal.

Exactly, he could just be another “Resistance” member. Go from talking about needing a code breaker to being on the ship with him, headed to Snoke’s Star Destroyer.

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So TFA starts off real strong, but when Han and Chewie enter the picture, it starts to lose steam. By the time they reach Starkiller Base it’s like the writers have just given up. What can be done about this? How do we improve the second half of the film (and if possible distance it from ANH)?

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Anakin Starkiller said:

So TFA starts off real strong, but when Han and Chewie enter the picture, it starts to lose steam. By the time they reach Starkiller Base it’s like the writers have just given up. What can be done about this? How do we improve the second half of the film (and if possible distance it from ANH)?

Maybe there would be a way to mix scenes from TLJ, like having Kylo kidnap her and take her to Snoke instead of his ship. You’d have to place her training with Luke prior to Maz’s Castle, but other than that it would be pretty clean. Could maybe make her training with Luke be visions while he’s trying to interrogate her, when he mentions dreaming of the ocean or whatever, making her less of a “Mary Sue”. Then they could approach Snoke and have that big climax.

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I don’t wanna steal scenes from TLJ and break it in the process.

On an unrelated note, you know how the trouble with redesigning Takodana is Rey’s line about green? Well what if left the trees intact and instead changed the water? Picture a lake of orange juice in front of Maz’s Castle.

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Anakin Starkiller said:

I don’t wanna steal scenes from TLJ and break it in the process.

On an unrelated note, you know how the trouble with redesigning Takodana is Rey’s line about green? Well what if left the trees intact and instead changed the water? Picture a lake of orange juice in front of Maz’s Castle.

Haha, why redesign Takodana? I have issues with that scene, but they were never colour based 😂

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Anakin Starkiller said:

So TFA starts off real strong, but when Han and Chewie enter the picture, it starts to lose steam. By the time they reach Starkiller Base it’s like the writers have just given up. What can be done about this? How do we improve the second half of the film (and if possible distance it from ANH)?

It’d be very hard, but if you rework the trilogy to have no Palpatine, you could try and move Starkiller to be the climatic third film’s setting instead of Exogal. This will shorten the runtime drastically, but it’s possible. Maybe have part of Luke’s exile to be trying to figure out a way to remotely destroy Starkiller (“the ability to destroy planets is insignificant compared to the power of the Force”). Maybe combine the lightspeed ramming scene with Luke, demonstrating that not only is it 1 in a million, only a Jedi could do it…which would make a perfect circle with the original Death Star.

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Like I said, I don’t wanna cannibalize the other films in the process.

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Anakin Starkiller said:

Like I said, I don’t wanna cannibalize the other films in the process.

I don’t know if there’s enough footage to not touch the other films… you could try restructuring it like Hal, but I have a few story issues with that (biggest being, why would a Star Destroyer run away from a handful of light fighters and a couple shuttles?).

You could trim it down, but then you’d end up having similar pacing issues as TROS (as TFA is pretty breakneck paced already).

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If we’re talking about getting really radical, I think the best option would be to cut it all into one movie:

  • First half is a shortened version of TFA. The Resistance is never referred to as such until the Republic gets destroyed, which doesn’t happen until the attack on Starkiller Base has already begun. That way it’s seen as more of a failure and the remaining Republic soldiers become a rebellion again. Luke being found is the midpoint.
  • Second half is TLJ but also cut down. Canto Bight is removed (Maybe add some TROS dialogue to imply that DJ is someone Poe used to work with, and that’s how they know him).
  • If possible, add the Rise of Skywalker’s final scene as an epilogue, with the two lightsabers getting buried replaced with the two halves of Anakin’s lightsaber.

You’ve got to ask yourself one question: “Am I making Carrie Fisher’s ghost proud?”
Well, are ya, punk?

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So I like A Gentle Restructure’s moving of the Hosnian destruction to the end as a failure of the Resistance to destroy the superlaser in time. However, I still can’t get past having another Death Star. I want the Senate to be destroyed via dreadnought. How do we make this work? I feel like there could be a way to accomplish this using the opening scene of TLJ, but I fear for how the holes that may create in Poe’s arc for that film. I also don’t wanna entirely lose the attack run on Starkiller Base.

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Anakin Starkiller said:

So I like A Gentle Restructure’s moving of the Hosnian destruction to the end as a failure of the Resistance to destroy the superlaser in time. However, I still can’t get past having another Death Star. I want the Senate to be destroyed via dreadnought. How do we make this work? I feel like there could be a way to accomplish this using the opening scene of TLJ, but I fear for how the holes that may create in Poe’s arc for that film. I also don’t wanna entirely lose the attack run on Starkiller Base.

Poe doesn’t really have an arc, but if you’re gonna have planet destruction you might as well take a Star Destroyer from IX. Maybe take the Kijimi sequence and use it.

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Maybe reimagine Starkiller Base as a Star Forge. That would explain how the First Order got so strong. Hux’s speech would mark when the first dreadnought built by the forge hyperspaces to Hosnian and uses mini Death Star tech to destroy the Senate.

I’d keep the restructured approach. Not once did I think D’Qar was in any danger. It’s just instead of a superweapon being launched against the Republic, it’s a fleet of dreadnoughts.

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Or… Make Exogol and star killer the same planet.

The resistance destroys the weapon but not the planet. At the end of the film we see the destroyers rise from the ground. A cliffhanger.

Peace is a lie
There is only passion…

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JakeRyan17 said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

So I like A Gentle Restructure’s moving of the Hosnian destruction to the end as a failure of the Resistance to destroy the superlaser in time. However, I still can’t get past having another Death Star. I want the Senate to be destroyed via dreadnought. How do we make this work? I feel like there could be a way to accomplish this using the opening scene of TLJ, but I fear for how the holes that may create in Poe’s arc for that film. I also don’t wanna entirely lose the attack run on Starkiller Base.

Poe doesn’t really have an arc, but if you’re gonna have planet destruction you might as well take a Star Destroyer from IX. Maybe take the Kijimi sequence and use it.

I don’t want a planetary destruction, though. Just a concentrated blow on one spot like the one delivered by the dreadnought.

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Anakin Starkiller said:

JakeRyan17 said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

So I like A Gentle Restructure’s moving of the Hosnian destruction to the end as a failure of the Resistance to destroy the superlaser in time. However, I still can’t get past having another Death Star. I want the Senate to be destroyed via dreadnought. How do we make this work? I feel like there could be a way to accomplish this using the opening scene of TLJ, but I fear for how the holes that may create in Poe’s arc for that film. I also don’t wanna entirely lose the attack run on Starkiller Base.

Poe doesn’t really have an arc, but if you’re gonna have planet destruction you might as well take a Star Destroyer from IX. Maybe take the Kijimi sequence and use it.

I don’t want a planetary destruction, though. Just a concentrated blow on one spot like the one delivered by the dreadnought.

Gotcha. That’s harder without having a new VFX shot, as the film barely establishes where we are or what happened as it is. You could possibly repurpose/recolour a shot from Rogue One on Jedha, to show the destruction but not the whole planet.

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Re: Poe’s arc.

If there were a way to insert JJ’s Poe ideas from ROS into TFA, that would give his character some depth.

In fact, a lot of ROS’s ideas have potential, they were just totally useless being introduced in the third act.

For example, the First Order kicking down doors like cops–that should’ve been in TFA, or at least the start of TLJ, to establish exactly what they were doing when they took over.

A radical restructure of TFA where Poe is introduced as the smuggler but already part of the rebels (showing hos desperate Leia is for troops) would make him more interesting.

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thebluefrog said:

Re: Poe’s arc.

If there were a way to insert JJ’s Poe ideas from ROS into TFA, that would give his character some depth.

In fact, a lot of ROS’s ideas have potential, they were just totally useless being introduced in the third act.

For example, the First Order kicking down doors like cops–that should’ve been in TFA, or at least the start of TLJ, to establish exactly what they were doing when they took over.

A radical restructure of TFA where Poe is introduced as the smuggler but already part of the rebels (showing hos desperate Leia is for troops) would make him more interesting.

I don’t know if that’s possible with just editing, as everything about him being a Smugglar was an exposition dump so that he had a past with Zorri. It wasn’t even enough to make us question if we can trust Poe or reveal anything about his character/nature.