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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released) — Page 225

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Hal 9000 said:
I’m leaving the Imperial March in order to imply as strongly as I can that these are old imperial ships

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For seventeen years the renegade Pfhor scoutship jumped between the closely packed stars of the galactic core. And all over the ship, dancing through the wreckage of the Pfhor computer core, Durandal was laughing…

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Has it been considered to change all of the dialogue about Anakin’s saber to reflect that it’s his? For example, Maz’s line in TFA is fine: “That lightsaber belonged to Luke, and his father before him” but there are lines in TROS that call it Luke’s when it’s, well, not. Luke built his own. For example, when Rey tells Leia “I will earn your brother’s saber” could brother somehow be replaced with father?

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A quick music test for the arrival of the Poe’s Resistance fleet at Exegol

https://vimeo.com/444970863

I always get worried about disrupting continuity. I seem to get blamed for that a lot.
Dave Filoni

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Brewzter said:

Has it been considered to change all of the dialogue about Anakin’s saber to reflect that it’s his? For example, Maz’s line in TFA is fine: “That lightsaber belonged to Luke, and his father before him” but there are lines in TROS that call it Luke’s when it’s, well, not. Luke built his own. For example, when Rey tells Leia “I will earn your brother’s saber” could brother somehow be replaced with father?

Luke owned it for two films while Anakin only had it for one. It was definitely Luke’s just as it was Anakin’s before that.

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Tobar said:

Brewzter said:

Has it been considered to change all of the dialogue about Anakin’s saber to reflect that it’s his? For example, Maz’s line in TFA is fine: “That lightsaber belonged to Luke, and his father before him” but there are lines in TROS that call it Luke’s when it’s, well, not. Luke built his own. For example, when Rey tells Leia “I will earn your brother’s saber” could brother somehow be replaced with father?

Luke owned it for two films while Anakin only had it for one. It was definitely Luke’s just as it was Anakin’s before that.

I think it’s more that even when Luke used it, he treated it as his father’s lightsaber. Just as you’re making the connection that Luke used it for two films, Rey used it for three. If you instead wanna go by years, Anakin had that saber throughout the five years of The Clone Wars, Luke had it about 2-3 years, and Rey had it for a single year. With that, then we have Anakin building it and using it for longer than Luke and Rey combined, and Luke building and using a different saber for 25-30 years.

With all of that, I understand re-emphasising the lightsaber as Anakin’s rather than Luke’s, especially with Kylo’s desire to obtain it as part of his devotion to Darth Vader (as it was Vader’s first lightsaber as well).

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JakeRyan17 said:

Tobar said:

Brewzter said:

Has it been considered to change all of the dialogue about Anakin’s saber to reflect that it’s his? For example, Maz’s line in TFA is fine: “That lightsaber belonged to Luke, and his father before him” but there are lines in TROS that call it Luke’s when it’s, well, not. Luke built his own. For example, when Rey tells Leia “I will earn your brother’s saber” could brother somehow be replaced with father?

Luke owned it for two films while Anakin only had it for one. It was definitely Luke’s just as it was Anakin’s before that.

I think it’s more that even when Luke used it, he treated it as his father’s lightsaber. Just as you’re making the connection that Luke used it for two films, Rey used it for three. If you instead wanna go by years, Anakin had that saber throughout the five years of The Clone Wars, Luke had it about 2-3 years, and Rey had it for a single year. With that, then we have Anakin building it and using it for longer than Luke and Rey combined, and Luke building and using a different saber for 25-30 years.

With all of that, I understand re-emphasising the lightsaber as Anakin’s rather than Luke’s, especially with Kylo’s desire to obtain it as part of his devotion to Darth Vader (as it was Vader’s first lightsaber as well).

There was someone quicker than me with a response🙃

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JakeRyan17 said:

If you instead wanna go by years, Anakin had that saber throughout the five years of The Clone Wars, Luke had it about 2-3 years, and Rey had it for a single year. With that, then we have Anakin building it and using it for longer than Luke and Rey combined, and Luke building and using a different saber for 25-30 years.

The Clone Wars were only 3 years though.

Anyway, I can see the logic behind the edit idea, it just doesn’t seem necessary.

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Tobar said:

JakeRyan17 said:

If you instead wanna go by years, Anakin had that saber throughout the five years of The Clone Wars, Luke had it about 2-3 years, and Rey had it for a single year. With that, then we have Anakin building it and using it for longer than Luke and Rey combined, and Luke building and using a different saber for 25-30 years.

The Clone Wars were only 3 years though.

Anyway, I can see the logic behind the edit idea, it just doesn’t seem necessary.

It was five years. When the movies were first coming out, they said it was two years in old EU materials. But as The Clone Wars series was being developed, that team decided that overall it would take place over the course of five years (mainly allowing for Ahsoka’s development and growth).

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Wookieepedia says it was 3 years long, in both versions of canon:

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Clone_Wars

I don’t know where you’re getting this “5 years” thing from, but it isn’t true.
Anakin and Luke had that saber for the same amount of time, so I think calling it Luke’s saber is completely valid.

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I work at Lucasfilm Animation on The Bad Batch, all of my coworkers worked on The Clone Wars’ original run and I helped with some final delivery and archiving of the final season.

But feel free to believe Wookipedia over the people making those decisions.

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Well, this is… unexpected. I really hope you’re telling the truth.

Even if you are, I think the personal decisions of people working on the Clone Wars show is different than what the canon has been saying for years. Even after the show was aired, all canon sources still said it was 3 years.

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StarkillerAG said:

Well, this is… unexpected. I really hope you’re telling the truth.

Even if you are, I think the personal decisions of people working on the Clone Wars show is different than what the canon has been saying for years. Even after the show was aired, all canon sources still said it was 3 years.

Canon sources said Ahsoka buried green lightsabers and that Rex, Gregor, and Wolffe all had their chips removed together.

Which canon sources trump which when they contradict each other? Ahsoka can’t age from when she’s introduced to where she ends up in three years. The final season alone takes place over the course of six months, Ahsoka’s walkabout taking place first, followed by The Bad Batch arc, followed by the Siege of Mandalore.

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You may have a point there. The canon has always been unstable, even after Disney did a partial reboot.

But this conversation is pointless anyway. In the end, it comes down to whether you think it’s acceptable to call Anakin’s second saber Luke’s as well, and I personally think it is.

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Disney Star Wars canon can be described as Swiss cheese.

“Because you are a PalpaWalker?”

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jarbear said:

Disney Star Wars canon can be described as Swiss cheese.

The old EU/Legends was far worse… I think everyone at Lucasfilm treats the rules of canon similar to before the Disney buyout: if it happened in the films or Lucasfilm TV, that is priority over publishing, etc.

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StarkillerAG said:

Well, this is… unexpected. I really hope you’re telling the truth.

+9000

Peace is a lie
There is only passion…

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It would be a dumb claim and easy to disprove if I was lying. I don’t know how you want me to prove it. I don’t even know how to embed photos on a post here anyway, and I’d have to be careful what photo I posted anyway.

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Does it really make that much of a difference if it was 3 or 5 years, people? The argument here is unnecessary for what the point was. We’re going too off-topic.

Save the Sebastian Shaw Ghost! Save the dream…!

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Icecream2448 said:

Does it really make that much of a difference if it was 3 or 5 years, people? Why is this message board getting bogged down with so many off-topic discussions?

Because people make thematic points and their opinion gets attacked despite validity.

This started by asking about re-focusing the ownership of the lightsaber as Anakin’s/Leia’s Father’s. This would reinforce the fact that Anakin made the saber, as well as Kylo’s obsession with it. Kylo also reclaims the lightsaber after he follow’s Anakin’s path away from the Dark Side.

All of that was contradicted with “Luke had it for two movies so it’s more his!” Then I gave a rebuttal of looking at instead of live action film screen time, in-universe character time. People attacked that too.

But this started as something on-topic.

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The new Imperial march by John Williams was a really nice rescore.

Filmic Crossroads, Daniel L. Isidore

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Cinefy said:

The new Imperial march by John Williams was a really nice rescore.

Actually, it was originally intended for the Mustafar scene. The wayfinder was going to be in the ruins of Darth Vader’s castle, and there was going to be an establishing shot with that dramatic version of Vader’s theme playing over it. When they cut that shot, they moved the music cue to the Final Order reveal, where it works pretty well.

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#WhereAreTheDeletedScenes

Peace is a lie
There is only passion…

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I get that Luke and Rey used it for extended periods of time, I just think it’s strange to call it their’s when Anakin also used it and built it. If all three used it, why wouldn’t the named ownership go to the one who built it and first used it? This makes even more sense given that Luke and Rey both built their own sabers.