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Jar Jar Bricks said:

idir_hh said:

dgraham414 said:
Opening shot would be tie fighters going towards kylo’s ship just out in space (probably a reverse shot from TFA) with Kylo on the bridge staring into nothingness.

Liked the idea so I made a quick test. It works really well with Poppa’s tie fighter’s flying above the forest, would be nice though to have a shot of Vader’s castle with the 3 fighters flying by to tie it all together.
https://vimeo.com/420388818

The shot of the transports landing I thought looked usable, too. Maybe try putting that in as well?

I thought including the transports would kinda brake the flow of the Tie sequence . I initially wanted to reverse this shot (1:19) https://youtu.be/ngElkyQ6Rhs?t=79 and cut right to the transports landing, obviously Jakku would need to be changed to Mustafar.

Peace is a lie
There is only passion…

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Yeah it makes alot more sense to push Mustafar and palpy’s reveal to later. The pacing is so much better for it.

Peace is a lie
There is only passion…

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Is it possible to add a second shuttle (with Chewie inside) that start behind Finn and moved to the right of the screen? Little smaller than the first one. So we can see on second viewing, that is starting a second shuttle and nobody see it. (like the Scene of James Bond Spectre with Blofeld escape from Explosion with a car)

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buzzclub said:

Is it possible to add a second shuttle (with Chewie inside) that start behind Finn and moved to the right of the screen? Little smaller than the first one. So we can see on second viewing, that is starting a second shuttle and nobody see it.

IIFanEditor’s edit of TROS did that.
Here’s the link to his clip:https://vimeo.com/400221468
PW: fanedit

Peace is a lie
There is only passion…

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I feel like moving mustafar and palpatine to later in there not only works, but you don’t have to do AS much work to the sequence now, either. You can probably pull the stop on the Star Destroyer and the TIES coming down from it to the planet surface. And so far as “buildup” goes, I feel like putting that sequence about 15 minutes into the movie serves that concept better than trying to stretch one minute into two.

Rey’s still referencing the lightspeed skipping that’s been cut, though (I think that sequence might as well stay in, myself)

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Hal 9000 said:

Listen, man, don’t EVER bring that up here again. 😛

Oh no! Sorry, Hal, MR, everyone. He asked me that question in a PM and I directed him to ask the forum since I had no idea. It was me, I did it! Didn’t know there was baggage around that question. I suppose you’ll be wanting my badge and gun now.

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But isn’t the Resistance disseminating intel they got in the first scene before the FO should have had it to begin with?

Restructuring the opening carries some inertia, I think, so I will prefer to err on the conservative side of things, while remaining open.

My stance on revising fan edits.

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^^Oh, Movies Remastered, I was just kidding. I don’t know about that being discussed, I may as well have just said “HEY YOU GO TO HELL” as a nod to your comment about the cold shoulder you’ve gotten on Reddit.

My stance on revising fan edits.

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idir_hh said:

buzzclub said:

Is it possible to add a second shuttle (with Chewie inside) that start behind Finn and moved to the right of the screen? Little smaller than the first one. So we can see on second viewing, that is starting a second shuttle and nobody see it.

IIFanEditor’s edit of TROS did that.
Here’s the link to his clip:https://vimeo.com/400221468
PW: fanedit

Thats not good, Rey can clearly see it. I mean Finn is showing with his hand to the left. And in this Scene must a second one moving on the Right side of him to the Right. So Rey only See the first Shuttle and will stops it. That looks better i think.

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Yeah, I don’t want to add another transport. If we can see it, shouldn’t they? And we’re moving the Chewie reveal to later, so there’s less of a reason to want to show it.

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Hal 9000 said:

But isn’t the Resistance disseminating intel they got in the first scene before the FO should have had it to begin with?

Yeah, unfortunately restructuring fundamentally doesn’t work for that reason.

Perhaps there’s some way to get across the idea in the crawl that that Kylo and such know exactly what they’ll find on Exegol, but it’d be tricky as you wouldn’t want to reveal what it was in the crawl.

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Hal 9000 said:

But isn’t the Resistance disseminating intel they got in the first scene before the FO should have had it to begin with?

I am making some updates to the crawl to reflect that:

Episode IX
THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

Hope! The galaxy has united after
the heroic sacrifice of Luke Skywalker.
Countless systems have taken a stand
against the dreaded FIRST ORDER.

Supreme Leader Kylo Ren, haunted by a
mysterious broadcast, rages in search of a
new enemy on the hidden planet of EXEGOL,
determined to destroy any threat to his rule.

Meanwhile, General Leia Organa has dispatched
her brave agents to intercept this dark message,
certain that it may give them a fighting chance
to end the conflict…

Now… the First Order and Kylo have already heard Palpatine’s message before the Falcon even meets with Boolio (as in the original version of the film) solving the problem you stated. Kylo now knows that Palpatine is on Exogol and gives him motivation for searching for the Wayfinder on Mustafar to find the planet Exogol and Palpatine. The message that the Resistance is hearing is the same as the First Order, that Palps is on Exogol with his fleet and he’s come for revenge. Rey’s journey then mirrors Kylo’s as she hears of Palpatine, and begins searching for the Wayfinder 😃

The Skywalker Saga:
I · II · III · IV · V · VI · VII · VIII · IX
This is the way.

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DZ-330 said:

Respects to: idir_hh, poppasketti, Dominic_Cobb

Restructure 2.0

Putting it all together
https://vimeo.com/420424145
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DZ-330, restructuring like that, breaking up the heroes section by moving the spy message tease and Rey training before Kylo-Ren works so well.

One thing I remember from my first viewing in theaters was that it didn’t feel like time had passed because all of the falcon/Ajan Kloss scenes were bumped together. I remember hating the first 30 minutes of the movie because the pacing felt so clunky. We already had the reveal, but now we have to go through it all again with our heroes.

Your edit now teases a spy message, establishes Rey and reteases her inner darkness, then Kylo-Ren reveals what the spy message told, and also further teases some connection between Palpatine and Rey.

One thing leads to the next; that’s editing! Great job!

Edit: Though Hal and DominicCobb make good points about the spy message. Hmm.

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poppasketti said:

Hal 9000 said:

Listen, man, don’t EVER bring that up here again. 😛

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Thank for having my back! 😃

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Hal 9000 said:

^^Oh, Movies Remastered, I was just kidding. I don’t know about that being discussed, I may as well have just said “HEY YOU GO TO HELL” as a nod to your comment about the cold shoulder you’ve gotten on Reddit.

Hahaha! You had me worried for a minute. 🤣

It’s so difficult to explain how I’ve restructured my edit. Did you see my change list on my The Last Hope thread?

There literally isn’t 2 full minutes of the movie where I haven’t changed something.

Just watching my new rough cut now and moving Kylos flashback scene and the helmet scene as an opener and then Mustafa after board meeting works really well.

That way Rey mentions the wayfinder as an introduction to it rather than kylo just picking up a triangle and going to a place to see Palpatine. Pacing seems to really work better than way too.

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poppasketti said:

Edit: Though Hal and DominicCobb make good points about the spy message. Hmm.

I just posted an updated crawl that fixes this issue. 😉

The Skywalker Saga:
I · II · III · IV · V · VI · VII · VIII · IX
This is the way.

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I think I just kick-started a whole discussion about restructuring from that clip I posted the other day. 😄

The name’s Lawson. Noah Lawson.

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DZ-330 said:

poppasketti said:

Edit: Though Hal and DominicCobb make good points about the spy message. Hmm.

I just posted an updated crawl that fixes this issue. 😉

How do you make your crawls? Any chance you could switch “Tros” to “The Last Hope” for me?

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Movies Remastered said:

How do you make your crawls? Any chance you could switch “Tros” to “The Last Hope” for me?

I don’t, I just type them out and hope one of the better editors likes my writing more and uses it haha 😄

The Skywalker Saga:
I · II · III · IV · V · VI · VII · VIII · IX
This is the way.

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DZ-330 said:

Movies Remastered said:

How do you make your crawls? Any chance you could switch “Tros” to “The Last Hope” for me?

I don’t, I just type them out and hope one of the better editors likes my writing more and uses it haha 😄

Haha haha! I’ve seen so many so there must be a setting to do them. Even iMovie has one but the letter spacing is awesome.

Has anyone thought about removing the dagger?

I’ve figured a way of doing it but it means removing a large amount of the movie, I.e. Lando intro etc.

Rey finding it in Kylos chamber when she picks it up can be the first time she sees it.

It’s just an idea as I hate that macguffin!!

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DZ-330 said:

poppasketti said:

Edit: Though Hal and DominicCobb make good points about the spy message. Hmm.

I just posted an updated crawl that fixes this issue. 😉

A good attempt, but I don’t know if it’s quite there yet. I don’t really like the idea of a mysterious broadcast in general, and I think referring to Palpatine as a new enemy might be a little too big/confusing a concept for a crawl. Perhaps instead of broadcast it’s “intel” or some such. As for what he’s looking for on Exegol, I’m still a little stumped in general, but particularly here. It has to be specific enough that we get it, but vague enough that it doesn’t give it away. I just think introducing an element like a third party in the war might be a bit much. But maybe not, I dunno.

The other thing that would have to get changed in this restructuring that I don’t think people have considered, is that the use of Palpatine’s theme in the TIE fighter attack in the iceberg would need to be replaced.

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Yeah… I’ll probably stick to the original structure. It might be better to move this to the general ideas thread, since this project seems in need of having some channels closed.

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