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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released) — Page 78

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A for me!

“Because you are a PalpaWalker?”

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I love D. It’s a perfect ending. But seriously, A looks great.

Anyone thought of removing the Kylo and Rey kiss? Is it possible? It just doesn’t seem right. More like Disney’s insistence on catering to both sides of the fanbase. Kylo is not a redeemable character. His arc was always going to end in death. And Rey was at his throat for most of the movie. So why kiss now? It just does not work.

I’m also rather confused about Poe and Finn’s rivalry. The seemed to have great chemistry in the the last two movies. A great friendship in the making. And now they are bickering at each other over petty things? I don’t buy it. Someone please convince me otherwise.

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kingofmonsters said:

Anyone thought of removing the Kylo and Rey kiss? Is it possible? It just doesn’t seem right. More like Disney’s insistence on catering to both sides of the fanbase. Kylo is not a redeemable character. His arc was always going to end in death. And Rey was at his throat for most of the movie. So why kiss now? It just does not work.

I’m also rather confused about Poe and Finn’s rivalry. The seemed to have great chemistry in the the last two movies. A great friendship in the making. And now they are bickering at each other over petty things? I don’t buy it. Someone please convince me otherwise.

This edit may be for you as it addresses a lot of your complaints

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/STAR-WARS-The-Rise-of-Skywalker-Anti-Cringe-Cut/id/75046

Just be aware you need to watch TLJ - Anti Cringe Cut prior for this edit to work.

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A is great, but for me B is basically the same just better so A or B will do, what I like about B more is just that you can seem more of Falcon.

Filmic Crossroads, Daniel L. Isidore

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kingofmonsters said:

I love D. It’s a perfect ending. But seriously, A looks great.

Anyone thought of removing the Kylo and Rey kiss? Is it possible? It just doesn’t seem right. More like Disney’s insistence on catering to both sides of the fanbase. Kylo is not a redeemable character. His arc was always going to end in death. And Rey was at his throat for most of the movie. So why kiss now? It just does not work.

I’m also rather confused about Poe and Finn’s rivalry. The seemed to have great chemistry in the the last two movies. A great friendship in the making. And now they are bickering at each other over petty things? I don’t buy it. Someone please convince me otherwise.

I think that the idea that best friends can’t bicker is hilarious. I bicker constantly with some of my closest friends.

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poppasketti said:

More options for the final shot!

Falcon Shot - Option A
Falcon Shot - Option B
Falcon Shot - Option C
Falcon Shot - Option D
pw: fanedit

Option A = original comp with the newer model, now with an adjusted path to smooth it, and sped up the light speed jump.

Option B = snooker’s 2nd pass, now more integrated by adding motion blur, heat distortion, and making the engine glow more blue.

Option C = a recreation of snooker’s original pass, which had the Falcon slowing and making a wider turn to jump. It’s not exactly the same, I made a few small adjustments.

Option D = craziness.

wow !!! you’re the f_cking gandalf!
Personally, I like the B better, I don’t know, the model looks more similar to the hawk, the one in version A, it is very fine.

I think that in all versions, the presence of the farm fails, because it makes the falcon seem small …

what do you think, or eliminate the farm, or insert a more distant one …

poppasketti … GOD

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jordan_winter said:

poppasketti said:

More options for the final shot!

Falcon Shot - Option A
Falcon Shot - Option B
Falcon Shot - Option C
Falcon Shot - Option D
pw: fanedit

Option A = original comp with the newer model, now with an adjusted path to smooth it, and sped up the light speed jump.

Option B = snooker’s 2nd pass, now more integrated by adding motion blur, heat distortion, and making the engine glow more blue.

Option C = a recreation of snooker’s original pass, which had the Falcon slowing and making a wider turn to jump. It’s not exactly the same, I made a few small adjustments.

Option D = craziness.

A, without a doubt.

I cannot wait to see this along with Ben’s ghost and the repurposed chess scene. It’s gonna be beautiful.

I’m sorry, I don’t know what you mean by “repurposed chess scene.” Did I miss something?

You’ve got to ask yourself one question: “Am I making Carrie Fisher’s ghost proud?”
Well, are ya, punk?

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Ed Slushie said:

I’m sorry, I don’t know what you mean by “repurposed chess scene.” Did I miss something?

People were discussing moving the chess scene to the end of the movie. This way it shows that the whole crew went with Rey to tatooine.

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omnimuffin said:

kingofmonsters said:

I love D. It’s a perfect ending. But seriously, A looks great.

Anyone thought of removing the Kylo and Rey kiss? Is it possible? It just doesn’t seem right. More like Disney’s insistence on catering to both sides of the fanbase. Kylo is not a redeemable character. His arc was always going to end in death. And Rey was at his throat for most of the movie. So why kiss now? It just does not work.

I’m also rather confused about Poe and Finn’s rivalry. The seemed to have great chemistry in the the last two movies. A great friendship in the making. And now they are bickering at each other over petty things? I don’t buy it. Someone please convince me otherwise.

I think that the idea that best friends can’t bicker is hilarious. I bicker constantly with some of my closest friends.

I have no issue with bickering friends, but the way the movie showed that was a bit too hostile. Why rag on Poe for being a spice runner when Finn was a clone trooper? It just all seemed out of leftfield. They even had a fallout midway through the movie. It just didn’t feel deserved.

stevepaynter said:

kingofmonsters said:

Anyone thought of removing the Kylo and Rey kiss? Is it possible? It just doesn’t seem right. More like Disney’s insistence on catering to both sides of the fanbase. Kylo is not a redeemable character. His arc was always going to end in death. And Rey was at his throat for most of the movie. So why kiss now? It just does not work.

I’m also rather confused about Poe and Finn’s rivalry. The seemed to have great chemistry in the the last two movies. A great friendship in the making. And now they are bickering at each other over petty things? I don’t buy it. Someone please convince me otherwise.

This edit may be for you as it addresses a lot of your complaints

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/STAR-WARS-The-Rise-of-Skywalker-Anti-Cringe-Cut/id/75046

Just be aware you need to watch TLJ - Anti Cringe Cut prior for this edit to work.

I appreciate the link! I took a look through it, but there is a lot that I disagree with. I respect the editor’s effort and decisions though and I see what they were aiming for. I know a few people that would probably enjoy that edit.

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idir_hh said:

A more emotional take of “Rey Skywalker”.
https://vimeo.com/418150792

I much prefer this delivery. I get why JJ went for a happier/prouder take for his triumphant ending, though. Unfortunately I don’t think cutting from her smiling in the original shot to her mouth open in the BTS shot quite works.

It makes me wonder - why does this crying take even exist? Obviously they probably do a lot of takes to have plenty of material to work with in editing, but it doesn’t fit tonally with the ending we actually got. Why would she just start crying while talking to this old woman? I originally assumed she was supposed to be choked up with joy for her found family, but seeing it again that forced smile and then the tear seem like sadness. Was this scene going to be a more emotional funeral for Ben and Leia or something? I guess we’ll never know.

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kingofmonsters said:

I have no issue with bickering friends, but the way the movie showed that was a bit too hostile. Why rag on Poe for being a spice runner when Finn was a clone trooper? It just all seemed out of leftfield. They even had a fallout midway through the movie. It just didn’t feel deserved.

Didn’t seem hostile at all to me. The reveal that Poe used to smuggle slave-mined drugs is perfectly deserving of the brief shock that Finn and Rey have, but Poe quickly dissolves the tension by pointing out exactly what you yourself just pointed out, and it really isn’t much of a problem after. Friends don’t get along all the time, especially in tense situations or when secrets are involved, and there’s still enough camaraderie and weak jabs between the two to sell their relationship as a real friendship. They do have a confrontation near the Death Star II about Poe’s leadership, but it’s resolved the next time they’re together and is an incredibly basic trope of storytelling.

In contrast, to use another Star Wars as an example, Anakin’s constant heated arguments with Obi-Wan and Padme in the prequels are incredibly uncomfortable to watch and make their “friendships/love” completely unbelievable.

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sade1212 said:
Unfortunately I don’t think cutting from her smiling in the original shot to her mouth open in the BTS shot quite works.

Fixed, same link.

Peace is a lie
There is only passion…

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sade1212 said:

Unfortunately I don’t think cutting from her smiling in the original shot to her mouth open in the BTS shot quite works.

If this is the same take neerb placed into the edit a few pages back (replaced the audio and kept the same video), then I think it works well! You don’t need to change any shots.

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Yeah he used the same take from the behind the scenes doco.

Peace is a lie
There is only passion…

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sade1212 said:

idir_hh said:

A more emotional take of “Rey Skywalker”.
https://vimeo.com/418150792

I much prefer this delivery. I get why JJ went for a happier/prouder take for his triumphant ending, though. Unfortunately I don’t think cutting from her smiling in the original shot to her mouth open in the BTS shot quite works.

It makes me wonder - why does this crying take even exist? Obviously they probably do a lot of takes to have plenty of material to work with in editing, but it doesn’t fit tonally with the ending we actually got. Why would she just start crying while talking to this old woman? I originally assumed she was supposed to be choked up with joy for her found family, but seeing it again that forced smile and then the tear seem like sadness. Was this scene going to be a more emotional funeral for Ben and Leia or something? I guess we’ll never know.

I honestly got the impression that the tear was genuine. Watching the BTS footage, Daisy really put her soul into this movie.

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jordan_winter said:

I honestly got the impression that the tear was genuine. Watching the BTS footage, Daisy really put her soul into this movie.

Definitely this. That emotion works well as Rey’s for our purposes, but irl it was Daisy’s bittersweet goodbye.

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Here’s a hybrid of versions A and B of the Falcon end shot!

Falcon Shot - Option E
pw: fanedit

I’m glad there was support around Option A, and I can make that available along with any other versions people want, but I think I agree with DominicCobb and others’ feedback that the Falcon was a bit small and receded too quickly. So for this version, I made the Falcon bigger, recede slower, and matched as best I could snooker’s motion in the back half of Option B. I also increased the length of the lightspeed streak so its more prominent.

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jordan_winter said:

I honestly got the impression that the tear was genuine. Watching the BTS footage, Daisy really put her soul into this movie.

I meant forced in the sense that it seemed like it was difficult for Rey the character to smile. It’s excellent acting, no doubt, I didn’t mean to suggest it was forced in that sense.

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I really like that alternate ending! The sky doesn’t match, but perhaps that could be touched up. I like how… candid it feels, with a medium shot rather than a closeup, and at a slightly odd angle. Feels like something GL may have done.

And I see nothing at all wrong with Falcon shot option E. 😃

My stance on revising fan edits.

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I’m kinda warming up to the silent ending (hats off to Chase Adams), it really does feel appropriate.

Peace is a lie
There is only passion…