Dom's (Possibly) Useful TROS Edit (WIP) — Page 13

Hal 9000 said:

I can’t help but read it as Rey accidentally killing her parents, similar to what happens with Chewie. She’s frightened, calls out, “Come back! No!”

I guess Unklar Plutt would have just reacted with, “Holy hell! I’m not keeping you where I live. Good luck bringing me shit in exchange for food.”
Unrelated to these events or Rey’s parents per se (since they have no prior connection), Palpatine senses Rey as a powerful person and wants to either put a proactive end to her or bring her to him. Either way, Ochi is sent to find her but ends up dying from a snake because he’s a dumbass. He doesn’t end up killing anyone or anything, just stopping to take a piss and getting killed.

This keeps getting more complicated. Ochi’s ship shouldn’t still exist or look like it does, if Rey destroyed it as her parents tried to leave. If the ship is replaced in TFA’s flashback (and its appearances in TROS), she shouldn’t recognize Ochi’s ship or get a feeling about it.

It was definitely complicated.

But all these issues are addressed in TROS: Resurgence Workprint:

1. Ren tells her “you wanted your parents dead.” So she killed them on purpose or in anger. It wasn’t just an accident.
2. The ship is a standard model ship like an X-wing. I recolored the parents ship green in Rey’s visions. If someone else vfx’s a new ship, even better. Alternatively the flashback clip from TFA could be used since that ship looks different, but adult Rey is in that shot.
3. The parents ship has nothing to do with Ochi’s ship so Rey does not recognize the ship on Pasaana.

The idea here is forgetting the old story and just watching the new one for the first time.

Would be interesting if the ship from the flashback was replaced with a scrapped together clone wars era ship, perhaps a troop* carrier ship/ low altitude assault transport or something from the final battle of Jakku.

Across the galaxy, the spark of hope lives on. To quell the growing unrest, the tyrannical First Order deploys its forces to any system threatening rebellion.

In a race against time, the wounded General Leia Organa dispatches her brave agents ever farther across the stars to fan the flames of RESISTANCE.

With his forces spread thin, Supreme Leader Kylo Ren has traveled to Mustafar in search of a legendary Imperial fleet which could assure his victory once and for all…

Personally, I don’t think the line “you wanted your parents dead” works. It implies plotting, not an instinctual reaction. Why plead with them to come back? Having Rey deliberately kill them really casts a weird light on her character overall.

In anger she basically wished them dead, and so they were.

krausfadr said:

But all these issues are addressed in TROS: Resurgence Workprint:

Don’t you have your own thread?

I don’t think it works, good of an idea as it would have been in production. But I think it has to be accidental, as it was with Chewie, or its too much of a deviation for the remaining footage to feel congruent.

Just my take on it.

Chase, yeah but its not very popular so I have to talk to people here. Anyway the discussion is specifically about the possibilities for a Rey killed her parents edit which Hal is looking into. I take it you don’t like this idea?

Hal, ok I’ll think about that.

EDIT: Also, I did try in the edit process to make Ren say point blank, “you killed your parents.” But I could not find suitable dialogue. So the closest I could come up with what I had was “you wanted your parents dead.” 😕

krausfadr said:

Chase, yeah but its not very popular so I have to talk to people here. Anyway the discussion is specifically about the possibilities for a Rey killed her parents edit which Hal is looking into.

While I do agree with you that it is worth discussing, I don’t see any indication that Hal is “looking into it” at this point in time. But seeing that this is Dom’s thread, it really depends on whether or not he sees any merit in the idea…

DominicCobb said:

I think the idea has merit, but I’m skeptical. I agree with Hal I think it’d need to be accidental.

Fair enough! 😉 Thanks for your input.
The one thing I like about the idea is that it works very well as a shocking reveal for Kylo Ren to give in the docking bay, I think krausfadr did a good job with altering Kylo Ren’s lines in the clip for that scene.
However, I agree with basically every other concern mentioned by others about implementing this idea into the film… 😕

For example, snooker pretty much somes up my thoughts here:

snooker said:

Rey killing her parents feels unearned and retcon-y to me? I can see the argument for it though…

Nice new crawl. Here’s my current draft for mine taking some of it into account:

Episode IX
THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

Across the galaxy, the spark of hope lives on. To quell an uprising, the tyrannical First Order has silenced communication between neighboring systems.

As Rey, sole heir to the Jedi, continues her training under the ailing General Leia Organa, their fledging Resistance gathers intel to forge a path to freedom.

Meanwhile, Supreme Leader Kylo Ren has traveled to Mustafar in search of a legendary Imperial fleet that would allow him to destroy any threat to his power…

Good revision. I feel the need to try to modify the clause about the rising tide of dissidence, maybe an analogy that doesn’t seem at odds with that of a spark. Not sure about ‘fabled’ either. I guess it’s time to bust out a thesaurus and get into the weeds.

Episode IX
THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

Across the galaxy, the spark of hope lives on. To suffocate a growing unrest, the tyrannical First Order has silenced communication between neighboring systems.

As Rey, sole heir to the Jedi, continues her training under the ailing General Leia Organa, their fledging Resistance gathers intel to forge a path to freedom.

Meanwhile, Supreme Leader Kylo Ren has traveled to Mustafar in search of a rumored Imperial fleet that would allow him to destroy any threat to his power…

Hal 9000 said:

Meanwhile, Supreme Leader Kylo Ren has traveled to Mustafar

Surely you should incorporate this line somewhere:
I loved the way Hal reacted to it back in the day: 😆

Meanwhile Supreme Leader Kylo Ren has traveled to Mustufar to film a music video during his solo tour, on a break from the band Ren and the Knights of Ren.

Grevious lied when he said it was a volcanic planet I guess. They could have even added palm trees so I guess we’re lucky.

DominicCobb said:

I don’t see what was wrong with the way I worded that particular sentence haha.

Nothing. I think it works not to use an analogy, but DOTF’s “suffocate” could juxtapose nicely with the “spark.”