Star Wars: The Rise Of Skywalker Redux Ideas thread — Page 77

ChainsawAsh said:

jonh said:

what do you want to fix in ROTJ?

Well, what I’d like to see is a version of the Hayden ghost in ROTJ that looks more content and proud of Luke and less…creepy. Just more appropriate to the moment than the take George chose.

And I’d be curious to see what it would look like with the aging-up you’ve given him for TROS.

Indeed! I’ve wanted that for some time now. Maybe it’s because I grew up with the LEGO Star Wars games, IDK.

It also gives us an alternative to “just bring back Shaw,” which I find kind of limiting.

idir_hh said:

After watching the film here are my (non-spoiler) thoughts/critiques:

-The overall story is very ambitious and has a lot of heart but the plot is just too convoluted.
-Pacing is really all over the place.
-A lot of unnecessary exposition.
-This film felt like it was meant to be a 3 hour movie, scenes are never allowed to breath, cut short and slapped together to fit in a short run-time, I can’t wait to see the deleted/extended scenes on blue ray because this film needs more fleshing out.

Overall I think somewhere inside TROS there is a solid film, now its our job to try salvage it.

Looks like we got a lot of work to do.

Yeah, and that hobbit, can someone cut him out, he didnt do jack to the movie

jonh said:

part 1 finished

Anyone who knows audio could do a good mix, I did it with shitty sounds from youtube !! hahaha

https://vimeo.com/409718237
password:jedi

This looks freaking awesome jonh!!! Great work, and I agree that a less creepy look on a perhaps slightly aged Hayden would make a nice alternative in Shaw vs. Hayden discussion for ROTJ.

I don’t see the problem with more extras? Klaud is wonderfully goofy and Merry blends right in (although yeah, he totally should’ve been Rose).

idir_hh said:

Just skimmed through the TROS visual dictionary and lo and behold it explicitly says that the Sith loyalists took Palpatines body to Exogol and through “Science and occult” they brought him back to life.
Lucasfilm can’t decide which is it, clone or alive?
What happened to “an interconnected and consistent Canon”.
Such a shame, they’ve just thrown in the towel I guess.

i recognize this post is from like, weeks upon weeks ago but also: the TROS visual dictionary does NOT say that; it mentions that they’ve been fucking around with cutting edged science and the occult, but at NO point does it ‘explicitly says that the Sith loyalists took Palpatines body to Exogol and through “Science and occult” they brought him back to life’

idir_hh said:

Your right it wasn’t explicit, but it sure was the implication. I think the team at lucasfilm were reluctant to commit to any one explanation, they probably decided to stick to the clone route with the novelisation after backlash from the fans who (rightfully) also got he implication that the Palpatine that was in the film was the same one from ROTJ.

They never mention recovering a body at all, and more than one page, IIRC, mentions cloning, so I’m not sure how that’d work. The book is extremely, weirdly careful to avoid spoiling the ‘Palpatine is leading the Sith Eternal’ twist (given that it’s at the beginning of the movie, lol), only ever mentioning that the Sith Eternal are doing wack shit with sorcery and technology and that they’re lead and/or snoke was created by an ‘unseen master’.

See, for me, when I was watching the original movie, Hobbit’s ‘Dark Science, Cloning, Secrets only the Sith knew’ was when it clicked for me that there was cloning involved, but I also had read the Visual Dictionary before I’d ever seen the movie, lol.

Here’s my rough first attempt at integrating Duel of the Fates, as has been talked about.

The fact that he’s stapled to GLaDOS implies he was more or less fatally wounded by Vader’s sacrifice, but I suppose informing the viewer that the machine has only slowed the process rather than completely halting it could be nice. Then again, that implies that Palpatine’s gonna die regardless if the heroes kill him or not. Sure, the threat of his fleet is more important to the Galaxy, but to the viewer, I think stopping Palpatine himself should feel like the most important thing. He is the main villain of the Saga, after all.

idir_hh said:

A compelling analysis of Rey’s character flaw in TROS and how it could have been fixed.
By:
A Closer Look
https://youtu.be/FVkIsr52Lxw

I just watched the whole video…I’m now super pissed Lucasfilm hired a “hack” writer like Chris Terrio for this movie who clearly doesn’t understand how write a character arc. God, why do such amateurs keep getting hired in Hollywood…so frustrating!

Haven’t finished it yet. Any thoughts to how his thoughts could be applied to a fan edit?