Star Wars: The Rise Of Skywalker Redux Ideas thread — Page 48

What do you mean? His loyal followers brush what is left of his teeth twice a day!

But really, I do a lot of these concepts just to see if actually seeing any of these images inspires us.

This idea is certainly impractical and on the extreme side, but I suppose I’m trying to illustrate something I felt Palpatine lacked. Like you said, that sense of decrepitness. I picture creatures like a lich, a mummy, Frankenstein’s monster. I think even overlay a dry, cracked or veiny skin texture could help add to that feeling possibly. They nailed the eyes, but the rest of the face looks rather normal to me.

But I do think it is better to stay focused on the most necessary, straightforward changes in order to achieve the primaries goals of the edit. Now that the home release is now, it might be a good time to shift focus back some of the big narrative changes that have been thrown around, and how to accomplish them.

If we could somehow do a wholesale saber replacement throughout and have her use Leia’s to replace Anakin’s which broke in TLJ, then Luke gives her his green one on Ach-To…that’d be an interesting experiment. But it might not work given how much dialogue is centered around “[Leia’s] brother’s saber.”

ChainsawAsh said:

“[Leia’s] brother’s saber.”

I don’t remember off the top of my head how many times this is brought up in the film, but would it be feasible to adjust the mentions of the saber to occasionally be “your father’s saber” or similar? Even taking just the OT into account, Luke had that blue saber for what, three years ANH-ESB, before using the green one for the entire rest of his life as a Jedi Master pre-exile? And then of course if you consider TCW and ROTS as well, that saber also prominently becomes the one Anakin used throughout the Clone Wars, and with which he killed most of the Jedi Order. It just seems to me like another instance of the ST looking towards what’s iconic about Star Wars as a real world cultural phenomenon (Rey Skywalker!), rather than considering what’s transpired in universe.

Chase Adams said:

RogueLeader said:
This idea is certainly impractical and on the extreme side, but I suppose I’m trying to illustrate something I felt Palpatine lacked. Like you said, that sense of decrepitness. I picture creatures like a lich, a mummy, Frankenstein’s monster. I think even overlay a dry, cracked or veiny skin texture could help add to that feeling possibly. They nailed the eyes, but the rest of the face looks rather normal to me.

You mean like this?
I honestly have so much fucking fun playing around with these Exegol strobe lights… 😄
https://youtu.be/vKnY8ysDVpE

Edit:
Happy April Fools!

Holy crap! Wasn’t expecting that. 😂

Other than the actual VFX challenge of changing the hilt, is there any reason why Anakin’s saber couldn’t be replaced by Luke’s green saber for the entire ST? This TLJ concept art shows it. It would clear up a few things in TLJ: we’d clearly see Luke reject HIS saber, rather than just rejecting the saber his Dad killed all those kids with (which would be understandable even if he wasn’t so disillusioned!); and it’d make his attempt to force project himself to Kylo as Kylo would remember him be more accurate (Kylo would never have seen him with the blue saber before). There’s no explanation for how the blue saber wound up in Maz’s basement anyway so that doesn’t matter. It’d make the two sabers which defeat Palpatine in TROS be the same two we see in the flashback, more cleanly representing Luke and Leia. Ditto at the end - the lightsabers directly correspond to the two ghosts we see, and there’s no room for “I don’t like sand” jokes to undermine the moment.

Plus green is my favourite saber colour.

NeverarGreat said:
You’d have to cut Maz’s line where she says the saber belonged to Luke and his father before him. It would also feel weird to have Kylo say that the lightsaber belongs to him, since it would be Luke’s personal saber and not the one passed down from Anakin (whom Kylo worships).

I wouldn’t have really had an issue with the saber being Luke’s green one from the beginning, but as it stands the blue saber is baked into the ST pretty effectively.

Yeah, Kylo would be an issue. Does he even actually acknowledge it as Anakin’s saber, though? It’s obviously implied that’s why he wants it, but now I think of it, there’s no particular reason why he would have ever seen that saber before. It was lost since before he was even born. I guess he recognised it from holotapes of Anakin, or Luke told him “Obi-Wan gave me this blue lightsaber that looked like a Graflex flashgun… (but he never did explain when exactly my dad told him to give it to me - before or after he got barbecued?)”. Plus, ‘Vader’ only used that saber for a few hours, whereas ‘Anakin’ and Luke used it for years, so it’s barely even a Vader artefact, really. Still though, you’re right that it would seem odd for him to claim ownership of Luke’s green saber.

You could still potentially have Luke’s green saber in TROS - the blue one did explode - though of course there’d be no way to explain how Rey got it, and it would also undermine the moment where Ben finally gets a good guy saber if it wasn’t the same one he had tried to force pull in TFA.

Based on the Art of book, they played around with different colors for the cracks in Kylo’s mask. I personally liked the gold look, since the kintsugi technique actually uses golden lacquer, and it is a nice visual reminder that Kylo is the regal Supreme Leader. Just wanted to see how it might look.

That looks super cool woah

It could also help imply motivation for why he rebuilds it all of the sudden. With the reappearance of the Emperor, Kylo might’ve rebuilt it to remind the First Order who is in charge. It’s like his crown, reminiscent to Supreme Leader Snoke’s golden robes.

It also sort of adds to why Kylo senses that Hux is uncomfortable with it. Kylo is flaunting his royalty, which upsets Hux and ties back into his desire to dethrone him. But of course this is all subtext.

What if the silver on his mask was gold like in the TFA concept art?

What if it shifted colors like a mood ring?

DominicCobb said:

What if the silver on his mask was gold like in the TFA concept art?

Some damn nice bling.

I remember seeing that concept art of the black and gold Kylo helmet even before we saw any official image of Kylo Ren. Thought it was really cool.
I think if you change the silver to gold, you could do it in all three films. Then keep the red cracks red.

RogueLeader said:

Some damn nice bling.

I remember seeing that concept art of the black and gold Kylo helmet even before we saw any official image of Kylo Ren. Thought it was really cool.
I think if you change the silver to gold, you could do it in all three films. Then keep the red cracks red.

Oh I’d hate to lose the silver. I just think the gold visor might be a clearer way to get across the “regal” idea you had for TROS specifically, even if it wouldn’t make that much sense that it was changed.