NeverarGreat said:
Since it was Snoke who turned Kylo evil (presumably through voices in his head) and since Sheev says that he’s been every voice in Kylo’s head, I assumed that they were trying to have Sheev be responsible for turning Kylo. Whether or not Sheev is directly controlling Snoke or in spiritual possession of an otherwise lifeless meat puppet, the point is that Sheev is Snoke in every way that matters.
Very true. If Palpatine was directly linked to Snoke, whether he be his master or he literally controlled Snoke, I still think you could conclude that Palpatine was responsible for having Snoke turn Ben. I guess the most direct way to do that is by having Palpatine literally control Snoke, or create him for that very purpose.
DominicCobb said:
I think Palpatine clones would be fun, although it might raise questions in regards to Palpatine’s appearance. I think RL probably presents the absolute simplest solution to get rid the Snoke puppet idea - just cut out “you have ever heard.”
This was something I was thinking about too. Visually, it looks like it is Palpatine’s undead body. Although, Ian doesn’t really put the make up on until he drains Rey and Ben’s life force…
this is one of those things that I think people would assume, based off looking at him, that he’s just inhabiting his undead corpse.
Maybe if you created that shot of the Palpatine clones, you could insert that “More than a clone, less than a man” line over it. If the clones were in different states of decay, maybe it could help imply the clones decay rapidly.
I guess I prefer the cloning option because I don’t like the idea that they somehow recovered his body from the Death Star! On the other hand, if they had to recover his charred corpse from the wreckage of the Death Star in order to bring him back to life, then seeing his body explode at the end of the film might feel more like a definitive death for Palpatine.
Still think I prefer the cloning idea though.
EDIT: The cloning pods could contain random body parts, to imply they basically Frankenstein’d what was left of his dead body.
DOUBLE EDIT: Actually, the “more of a clone, less than a man” line would fit really well with that idea. He’s more than a clone, because there’s still parts of him that are his original body, but he’s less than a man because so much of him are cloned parts held together by technology.