Star Wars: The Clone Wars To Return With New Episodes — Page 4

Broom Kid said:

Rumor is we’re getting a sequel to Rebels after this, and possibly an animated show based on Doctor Aphra.

I haven’t watched Resistance, but from what I’ve gathered it hasn’t continued any of Filoni’s main story threads, so a Rebels sequel is good news. I’ve been re-watching it recently and now that SW seems to move into TV series territory, and since Disney+ seems like it will be making bolder stuff than what Disney XD allowed, it seems like the right time to (hopefully) complete Ahsoka and Ezra’s stories.

Not too sure about Aphra though, seems like a weird choice. Admittedly I never really liked the character (what I have read was just fine IMO), but I still don’t really see that character getting her own series. It seems like an odd thing to do for someone who’s story so far has been told exclusively through comics. Could these rumors relate to something similar to the Forces of Destiny shorts maybe? That makes more sense to me.

RogueLeader said:

Honestly I think it would make more sense to introduce her as a new side/main character in the Rebels sequel. If it is a direct sequel to Rebels, following Sabine and Ahsoka’s quest to find Ezra, maybe she could come along on the journey.

Personally I would love a more general post-ROTJ series that brings in vibes of the popular post-Endor EU stories. It could be a perfect way to show the further adventures of Luke, Han and Leia, and their story could converge with that of Ezra, Sabine, Ahsoka and Thrawn.

Right, and I can see it working, I just personally think Filoni’s series are better when he’s just left to work with his own characters. So far the only “higher priority” characters have been movie related, which makes sense, and even then Rebels had very few new movie references other than Saw (which was technically a CW character first anyway). I do like your post-Endor suggestion though, and I’d love to see him do something similar to CW with Luke, Leia, etc. He’s already shown that he can do Leia, Lando, etc. really well, so seeing the OT gang alongside Rebels favourites like Ezra and Ahsoka would be a great foundation for a new Filoni cartoon. I just personally feel that adding a bunch of Marvel comics characters would just muddy it all up, better for him to prioritize his own continuity and the relevant live action stuff that most of the viewers have probably seen anyway.

So it just occurred to me that CW season 7 could technically qualify as both Legends and Canon at the same time. Granted the canonicity of CW pre-Disney was kind of weird and inconsistent, but it is the only non-live-action material to be canonized after Disney bought SW, and season 7 is based on unfinished episodes from the pre-Disney days, so shouldn’t the new season technically be part of both continuities? Not that this really matters overall, but I find these kinds of things fascinating.

DominicCobb said:

ZkinandBonez said:

So it just occurred to me that CW season 7 could technically qualify as both Legends and Canon at the same time. Granted the canonicity of CW pre-Disney was kind of weird and inconsistent, but it is the only non-live-action material to be canonized after Disney bought SW, and season 7 is based on unfinished episodes from the pre-Disney days, so shouldn’t the new season technically be part of both continuities? Not that this really matters overall, but I find these kinds of things fascinating.

I would think with that profile picture you might have known about Marvel #108 “Forever Crimson” https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Wars_108:_Forever_Crimson

Yeah, as a matter of fact I just got my copy of it recently (there was a mix up with my pull-list and I didn’t get it until now). Though I’m not quite sure what you’re getting at.

Tobar said:

ZkinandBonez said:

So it just occurred to me that CW season 7 could technically qualify as both Legends and Canon at the same time. Granted the canonicity of CW pre-Disney was kind of weird and inconsistent, but it is the only non-live-action material to be canonized after Disney bought SW, and season 7 is based on unfinished episodes from the pre-Disney days, so shouldn’t the new season technically be part of both continuities? Not that this really matters overall, but I find these kinds of things fascinating.

The series was created by George Lucas himself. It’s always been considered G-Level canon, even after he left following the third season.

I know, and as I said it played really loose with its connection to EU material so it doesn’t really matter, but if we were to nitpick, then CW season 7 is technically part of both continuities. CW is such an oddity canon-wise. It is, as you say G-canon, so it trumped all other content, yet it was also made to fit within the time-jump in Tartakovsky’s CW cartoon, hence why season 1 starts with Anakin being a Jedi and why it never intended to show the attack on Coruscant. However, despite being the last part of Legends, it was canonized as the first non-movie content in the new EU and has been treated as the starting point for new animated series. The reason I find this funny is that it’s a canon series that was made to fit within a non-canon series, yet they continued several unresolved arcs in a canon sequel series, which means that the Legends version (regardless of whether season 7 counts) will most likely always be unfinished.

In the end I just like these shows for what they are regardless of what continuity they “officially” belong to, but since canonicity is a thing I find these oddities fascinating.

DominicCobb said:

ZkinandBonez said:

DominicCobb said:

ZkinandBonez said:

So it just occurred to me that CW season 7 could technically qualify as both Legends and Canon at the same time. Granted the canonicity of CW pre-Disney was kind of weird and inconsistent, but it is the only non-live-action material to be canonized after Disney bought SW, and season 7 is based on unfinished episodes from the pre-Disney days, so shouldn’t the new season technically be part of both continuities? Not that this really matters overall, but I find these kinds of things fascinating.

I would think with that profile picture you might have known about Marvel #108 “Forever Crimson” https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Wars_108:_Forever_Crimson

Yeah, as a matter of fact I just got my copy of it recently (there was a mix up with my pull-list and I didn’t get it until now). Though I’m not quite sure what you’re getting at.

Maybe I misread your comment. I thought you were wondering if Disney has produced any new Legends content, but I guess you’re talking about producing new Legends content that is also canon.

Ah, I see. No, I’m well aware that other than Crimson Forever, which was more a gimmick than anything else, that Disney SW aren’t making any new Legends content. I was just saying that CW season 7, being based on previously unfinished episodes, are unintentionally Legends stories as well.

Anakin Starkiller said:

I know, and as I said it played really loose with its connection to EU material so it doesn’t really matter, but if we were to nitpick, then CW season 7 is technically part of both continuities. CW is such an oddity canon-wise. It is, as you say G-canon, so it trumped all other content, yet it was also made to fit within the time-jump in Tartakovsky’s CW cartoon, hence why season 1 starts with Anakin being a Jedi and why it never intended to show the attack on Coruscant. However, despite being the last part of Legends, it was canonized as the first non-movie content in the new EU and has been treated as the starting point for new animated series. The reason I find this funny is that it’s a canon series that was made to fit within a non-canon series, yet they continued several unresolved arcs in a canon sequel series, which means that the Legends version (regardless of whether season 7 counts) will most likely always be unfinished.

The weirdest part is that without Tartokovsky’s CW, Grievous and Ventress just sorta show up outta nowhere.

Exactly. And so far they haven’t bothered to give them a canon introduction either, they just kind of accept that those stories have already been told despite not being part the official canon.

Tobar said:

TCW fits well with the microseries for the most part but it does contradict it in a few places. George was not afraid to completely negate anything in the EU he didn’t care for. Which is why incidents like Karen Traviss’ loud and sudden departure from the franchise happened. And why suddenly there was the weird continuity issue they had to try and smooth over when he decided to rename the Sith planet Korriban to Moraband.

What I’ve personally always been fascinated by is George’s love of the comics. He pulled Ayla Secura right out of the comics and adapted her to live action in AOTC. Her Master from the comics Quinlan Vos also almost made a live action appearance in ROTS but ended up instead as a vocal reference. Asajj Ventress, was another comics character he used quite heavily in the animated series.

He also heavily borrowed from Ki-Adi Mundi’s backstory from the comics for Anakin in ROTS. Married and being the “only” knight to be given a seat on the council without being granted the rank of Master.

And then there’s Darth Talon. Another comic character that George became enamored with. He first tried to use her in the long cancelled Darth Maul game and then later was planning on using her as the antagonist in his version of VII.

And his love of the comics continues. He’s been spotted heading into comic shops every now and then to buy the latest issues and even bought all of the original art for a Marvel Han Solo comic.

Yeah, Lucas’ relationship with the EU is quite interesting. Although a lot of SW fans would prefer for canon to be this rigid and consistent thing, it seems like Lucas always treated it similarly to how Star Trek have always done it where the novels, comics, etc. are just stories to enjoy and use as a “head-canon” or “what-ifs” until a new series or movie contradicts it. And as far as Legends are concerned, that was technically the case with G-canon, though you wouldn’t know if from scrolling through wookieepedia.

As a side note: do you know if there actually was any original art from the Han Solo series for Lucas to buy? Having read it I got the impression it was done digitally, so I’ve always wondered if it actually happened or not. Every article I’ve read always seemed to skip that part and only says he wanted to buy it.

Star Wars: The Clone Wars | Official Trailer | Disney+
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLW2jkd6E7g

ZkinandBonez said:

Star Wars: The Clone Wars | Official Trailer | Disney+
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLW2jkd6E7g

BTW, I just noticed a possible Kanan cameo in the trailer; https://youtu.be/ZLW2jkd6E7g?t=24
The Jedi with the padawan beside her does looks like Depa Billaba which would make the boy Caleb. He probably won’t say or do anything, but it’s a nice little post-Rebels inclusion (though it does the whole double-canonicty thing even more confusing).

There’s a scene literally from Revenge of the Sith in there! Mace saying “I sense a plot to destroy the Jedi” in the war room happens like ten minutes before he goes off to arrest Palpatine. Also Padme is visibly pregnant and Anakin doesn’t find out until after Dooku is dead.

I was under the impression the last we would see of most of the characters is just prior to the Battle of Coruscant, so this is cool.

DominicCobb said:

Interesting. I do remember hearing some speculation (or maybe it was based on something Filoni or someone else said) that we would see the Jedi purge to some extent. Considering that scene comes right before Order 66, I imagine this will probably end up being true. But to what extent? If I had to guess I’d say we’ll see Captain Rex’s perspective? Don’t really want to show everyone getting murdered on a kids show (plus we’ve seen it in the film anyway), and Rex will show a different side of the event that will lead into Rebels. Well, I guess we’ll have to see Ahsoka’s perspective as well.

I will say, if they’re going right up and into ROTS, that’ll make the fact that they just sort of dropped into the Clone Wars halfway between AOTC and ROTS even weirder.

They kinda had to - Anakin was still an apprentice in AOTC, so it doesn’t make much sense for him to suddenly get a padawan (they wanted to start with Ahsoka to give new audiences a character to latch to).

Also Ep 2 wouldn’t bring us much. ROTS has interesting concepts to explore from the other perspective.