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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread — Page 317

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Here’s the first Maul fight but more ‘OT’ styled:

https://streamable.com/ahxdo

I cut pretty much every line Anakin has, I reduced shots that were entirely CG, I omitted some ADR lines, I tried to create a better flow between actors. I think I’m going to create a new thread for my ‘Phantom Menace 70s edition’ or something that would include ideas like my old R2 introduction clip.

Also, I’m thinking about omitting Anakin’s name until Qui-Gon introduces him to Obi-Wan. Thoughts? Delay that ‘dramatic irony’ a little.

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You have an incredible ear for the OT. Excellent!

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snooker said:

Here’s the first Maul fight but more ‘OT’ styled:

Great! Really like it and it works well.

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Wow, that’s a whole new level.
It really really looks like it could be a prequel to the Originals.

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I also like this clip Snooker posted a while back with a new intro for Anakin:

https://streamable.com/2zt46

I really like this idea of Anakin racing twice and loosing the first time.
I was watching it again today and thought about what might happen next…so I threw this together:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq94ExvsHeI&feature=youtu.be

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SomethingStarWarsRelated said:

I also like this clip Snooker posted a while back with a new intro for Anakin:

https://streamable.com/2zt46

I really like this idea of Anakin racing twice and loosing the first time.
I was watching it again today and thought about what might happen next…so I threw this together:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq94ExvsHeI&feature=youtu.be

This is a great mock-up, I’m not a huge fan of the slow-mo, but other than that great work!

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SomethingStarWarsRelated said:

Thanks!
I agree about the slow-mo…I’m thinking (if the idea is even used) that it can be made to look more convincing (probably using After Effects).

I hope you do finish it and I look forward to seeing it 😃

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Hello there, at the moment I am trying to remove Kamino from AOTC, because it just raises questions that do not get answered in the movies (who ordered this massive army?) and in my opinion it is a major plot hole, that NOBODY is curious about the creation of the clones.

In order to achieve this, the toxic dart which let Obi-Wan to Kamino will be an Geonosian design instead (although the aesthetics do not match up). I will redub Dex with an alien language and ad subtitles to explain everything we need to know.

The problem I got is that Obi-Wan never says Geonosis (apart from the holo-message).
Does anybody know where to find a voice line of Obi-Wan saying ‘Geonosis’? Or has an idea on how to work around the problem in a better way than him constantly referring to ‘a planet’ or ‘a system’?

Thank you in advance. Have a nice day!

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Not sure but maybe Obi-Wan says “Geonosis” during TCW Season 2 Geonosis arc? The voice is a bit different from Ewan’s but still a good impression, you may be able to use to that. No guarantee tho.

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The 3-in-1 edit “A Galaxy Betrayed” did a great job at removing Kamino. It inserted the deleted droid analysis scene, redubbing the droid to say that the toxic dart came from Geonosis. You might want to do something similar.

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Well, I am doing something similar by changing Dex voice and dialog, but I would like to redubb Obi-Wan asking Madame Jocasta, saying I’m looking for a planet system called Geonosis (instead of Kamino). The plot should work without Obi-Wan ever referring to Geonosis by name, but in my opinion it would be a bit jarring, if they were always talking about “a planet” or “a system” instead of simply calling it Geonosis.

Thanks to your replies, I’ll keep an open eye on McGregor-interviews and maybe watch the Geonosis arc from TCW again. Splicing together single syllables on the other hand is something way beyond my editing-“skills”, putting together sentences from different scenes is already difficult enough.

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Hey Peter, I think we had a convo about this. Why not establish that the Clone army has been openly under construction for sometime, the dart leads them to Kamino, but what Kamino is isn’t a mystery. So Kenobi goes and acts like he is just coming for a review of the clones, and learns about the Jango, who matches the description of the bounty hunter he’s after.

You can add “I will create a Grand Army of the Republic…” line somewhere in TPM, maybe an edited version of that scene where we don’t have a close-up of Palpatine saying it (because of his appearance difference between Ep 1 and 2).

Maybe the opening crawl from Ep 2 could say that this thing Padmé is voting on is to approve for more clone units to be made, or possibly to give Palpatine emergency powers to counter the Separatist threat. Or maybe the vote is to approve for the clones to actually be deployed across the galaxy to defend the Republic. They’ve been building the army, but they haven’t left Kamino yet.

This way you won’t have to cut so much out of the movie.

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RogueLeader said:

Hey Peter, I think we had a convo about this. Why not establish that the Clone army has been openly under construction for sometime, the dart leads them to Kamino, but what Kamino is isn’t a mystery. So Kenobi goes and acts like he is just coming for a review of the clones, and learns about the Jango, who matches the description of the bounty hunter he’s after.

You can add “I will create a Grand Army of the Republic…” line somewhere in TPM, maybe an edited version of that scene where we don’t have a close-up of Palpatine saying it (because of his appearance difference between Ep 1 and 2).

Maybe the opening crawl from Ep 2 could say that this thing Padmé is voting on is to approve for more clone units to be made, or possibly to give Palpatine emergency powers to counter the Separatist threat. Or maybe the vote is to approve for the clones to actually be deployed across the galaxy to defend the Republic. They’ve been building the army, but they haven’t left Kamino yet.

This way you won’t have to cut so much out of the movie.

Well I would not just cut Kamino, but change and reorder most of the first half of the movie.

Also I won’t cut all the scenes of Kamino, but try to reuse some of them.
The Scene of Obi-Wan telling Mace and Yoda will be reused. In my version a random, cloaked Jedi will tell them about his investigations on the traces leading to spice-miners on the moons of Naboo , that Mace mentioned in the first scene in Palpatines office.

And I will keep the space-battle over Geonosis. Obi-Wan will be ambushed by Jango, when he approaches Geonosis.
Palpatine/Darth Sidious will inform Jango about the investigations and command him to kill the Jedi.

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Because of some unforeseen problems, I had to restart the project file that had my Phantom Menace edit. This gave me the perfect excuse to redo the sound design (and color correction) of the Maul fight I posted earlier, as I wasn’t really happy with it.

Here it is again; without music because I think it’s kinda funny.

https://streamable.com/jdy1d

If it sounds kind of empty, don’t worry. The music fixes that.

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Peter Pan said:
Well I would not just cut Kamino, but change and reorder most of the first half of the movie.

Indeed, the movie has very little decent action on the first part (the city chase is poor).
So the fight on Kamino needs to stay. Perhaps move it to the beginning so that you have:
» Open with Obi-wan at Kamino
» Fight with Jango
» Coruscant with the usual Padme stuff
» Bar sequence, Obi-wan sees Jango again
» Obi-wan goes to Geonosis chasing Jango

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snooker said:

Here it is again; without music because I think it’s kinda funny.

Sory to hear about those problems 😦
I like this version and I enjoy the colors. Reminds me of 4K1977.

You could try to start that sequence with the deleted scene when they start running. But I understand if you don’t do it due to image quality.

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4throck said:

Peter Pan said:
Well I would not just cut Kamino, but change and reorder most of the first half of the movie.

Indeed, the movie has very little decent action on the first part (the city chase is poor).
So the fight on Kamino needs to stay. Perhaps move it to the beginning so that you have:
» Open with Obi-wan at Kamino
» Fight with Jango
» Coruscant with the usual Padme stuff
» Bar sequence, Obi-wan sees Jango again
» Obi-wan goes to Geonosis chasing Jango

Maybe we could change Windus line about this border dispute, from which Obi-Wan just returned, so that he refers to the fight we saw in the beginning.

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I’ve seen people with the idea of Obi-Wan carrying Qui-Gon’s lightsaber throughout Episode II as a sort of way to strengthen its connection to Episode I.

Qui-Gon's saber

What if Qui-Gon’s saber was actually the same saber that Obi-Wan would use for the rest of his life? This would really strengthen the connection between the Prequels and the Original Trilogy. I would also remove nearly every moment that a lightsaber is destroyed in the prequels; this happens way too often and diminishes the cinematic importance of the weapon.

Qui-Gon's saber

https://streamable.com/9bw4v

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I love that idea. It’s something I thought should have been the case all along. I hope you can pull it off

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That would be fantastic. It could be driven home by given Obi-Wan a not-blue lightsaber in the Phantom Menace.

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