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The Empire Strikes Back bluray regrade (LUTs Released) — Page 2

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Feels right to me. I used Adywan’s old color corrected HDTV master for my ESB project which he timed to the 1997 SE precisely because those colors feel more right to me than anything else. I grew up with pan-n-scan 1997 SE VHS tapes, after all.

I don’t really have any technical suggestions, but those caps look great to my eyes.

My stance on revising fan edits.

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Following a request from Hal 9000, I decided to try and create some scene by scene LUTs to get the TESB bluray to look half descent, using the 1997 SE telecine as the basis, while adding a few touches of my own. I will make these LUTs freely available, as he’s not the first member to make this request.

Here’s the first set of frames.

Bluray:

Bluray regraded:

Comparison:

http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/1E21NNNU

LUT:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qYfl68kDNGmoSIBhMmrM3UCZCr6hI6tT/view?usp=sharing

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DrDre said:

Following a request from Hal 9000, I decided to try and create some scene by scene LUTs to get the TESB bluray to look half descent, using the 1997 SE telecine as the basis, while adding a few touches of my own. I will make these LUTs freely available, as he’s not the first member to make this request.

Here’s the first set of frames.

Bluray:

Bluray regraded:

Comparison:

http://www.framecompare.com/image-compare/screenshotcomparison/1E21NNNU

LUT:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qYfl68kDNGmoSIBhMmrM3UCZCr6hI6tT/view?usp=sharing

Awesome. I’m glad to see someone is finally regrading ESB - I’ve found at least three different grades of the ANH Bluray, but it seems Empire is less popular for thst kind of thing.

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That’s very cool ! I like the regrade. I never noticed how dark were the bluray colors. Except on Dagobah: I prefer the bluray green colors though. It seems we’re losing lots of details with the regrade.

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MalàStrana said:

That’s very cool ! I like the regrade. I never noticed how dark were the bluray colors. Except on Dagobah: I prefer the bluray green colors though. It seems we’re losing lots of details with the regrade.

I’ve started from scratch, so the examples of the previous pages are not representative of how it will look. For the colors the 1997 SE telecine is the basis, but I also will use Puggo Strikes Back as a color reference.

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Here’s an update of the Luke meets Yoda scene.

A LUT will be provided after the weekend.

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It’s interesting to note, that Puggo Strikes Back seems to suggest, that the theatrical color grading had a nice balance of oranges, and blues for this scene, whereas the color grading is heavily scewed towards blues and greens for the bluray.

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Ok I’m sold on the last pics : it looks superb with the orange glow !

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DrDre said:

A LUT will be provided after the weekend.

Is this a single LUT for the whole film, or a LUT for just this scene?

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Stotchy said:

DrDre said:

A LUT will be provided after the weekend.

Is this a single LUT for the whole film, or a LUT for just this scene?

Just for the scene.

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Are your thoughts that shots within scenes are fairly well matched and thus the film would require scene by scene correcting as opposed to shot by shot?

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Stotchy said:

Are your thoughts that shots within scenes are fairly well matched and thus the film would require scene by scene correcting as opposed to shot by shot?

Of course a shot by shot regrade would be better, but as long as the shots within a scene were graded consistently, a scene by scene regrade should provide satisfactory results.

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Once the LUTs are published, I will be happy to put them all together and publish DrDre’s ESB regrade in encoded form. My hope is that removing any form of resistance on Dre’s end can expedite a finished produce for everyone. Just generate the LUTs, hopefully avoiding agonizing over them, and I’ll take care of the tedium of encoding, muxing, and publishing. And I’ll have a wonderful new source for my own ESB project. 😃

My stance on revising fan edits.

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Here’s an update of the last scene:

A LUT will follow ASAP.

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Wow, I think that’s one of the clearest examples of the bluray issues Ive ever seen. Makes if night and day to see the amazing improvement a regrade can make.

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devils advocate: but when sunlight filters through snow, isn’t it gonna be blue?

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dahmage said:

devils advocate: but when sunlight filters through snow, isn’t it gonna be blue?

Sure, just not as blue as for the bluray. 😉