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Morphzero said:

Sishyo512 said:

Hot damn, a 10 minute video of 1080p 59fps video is 50 gigabytes…

Morphzero said:

Sishyo512 said:

Mavimao said:

Sishyo512 said:

Okay guys, this is actually really frustrating. An export of 26 minutes racks up to 650 GBs I have no clue why it does this, but I would really appreciate some help. If someone would be kind enough to PM me a link of how I can export this without bricking my PC, I will be able to show the world this monstrosity in full HD.

peace

This sounds like you’re exporting your edit at unnecessarily high settings.

yea I lowered it quite a bit, but its still coming in at around the same number

What bitrate and codec are you using to render at?

Its a slightly modified version of DV NTSC booted up to 59 fps. The depth is at 24 bit.

I’d recommend a lossless codec, such as Lagarith or Huffyuv over NTSC DV…

For some reason, even with the bit depth at 8, a 10 minute segment of the project turns into 49 gigabytes. Are there any other recommendations you may have, or should i just start experimenting with stuff?

I’ve gone batshit several times over for the sake of historical preservation…

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Perhaps lower it to 6 and see what happens. Or turn it off and back on again.

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Sishyo512 said:

Morphzero said:

Sishyo512 said:

Hot damn, a 10 minute video of 1080p 59fps video is 50 gigabytes…

Morphzero said:

Sishyo512 said:

Mavimao said:

Sishyo512 said:

Okay guys, this is actually really frustrating. An export of 26 minutes racks up to 650 GBs I have no clue why it does this, but I would really appreciate some help. If someone would be kind enough to PM me a link of how I can export this without bricking my PC, I will be able to show the world this monstrosity in full HD.

peace

This sounds like you’re exporting your edit at unnecessarily high settings.

yea I lowered it quite a bit, but its still coming in at around the same number

What bitrate and codec are you using to render at?

Its a slightly modified version of DV NTSC booted up to 59 fps. The depth is at 24 bit.

I’d recommend a lossless codec, such as Lagarith or Huffyuv over NTSC DV…

For some reason, even with the bit depth at 8, a 10 minute segment of the project turns into 49 gigabytes. Are there any other recommendations you may have, or should i just start experimenting with stuff?

The size of your project is normal.
The codec you choose for your master, which is the one you work with in Adobe Premiere should not be the same with the one you share with people.
For example:
1- You work with Apple Pro 422 codec (or an other nondestructive codec) for your master and all the editing work in progress. 40 to 90GB is normal with a 422 master (never erase this result master, save it on a hard drive).
2- You have make a distribution copie for people, which should be in MP4 or MKV H264 15000 kbps (You should get between 3 or 8GB as result size).

The result of this second one is the copy you have to share with people.

John Williams & Star Wars fan !

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I also recommend prores as a mastering codec. While technically not lossless, the results are fantastic and efficient (10 minutes of 59.94 SD should be about 10gb at prores HQ).

The mp4 settings listed above by botox1 would also look great for distribution.

I wouldn’t change the bitdepth out of the default. I think the confusion here comes from Adobe. They list total bit depth instead of bit depth per channel (channels being Red, Green, Blue, and Alpha). So with RGB footage at 8bits per channel, you have a total of 24bits. Most software, however, would simply call this 8-bit or 8bpc.

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poppasketti said:

I also recommend prores as a mastering codec. While technically not lossless, the results are fantastic and efficient (10 minutes of 59.94 SD should be about 10gb at prores HQ).

The mp4 settings listed above by botox1 would also look great for distribution.

I wouldn’t change the bitdepth out of the default. I think the confusion here comes from Adobe. They list total bit depth instead of bit depth per channel (channels being Red, Green, Blue, and Alpha). So with RGB footage at 8bits per channel, you have a total of 24bits. Most software, however, would simply call this 8-bit or 8bpc.

It wouldn’t be a good idea to go with Prores, because making a distribution copy would result in another lossy conversion on top of that.

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Morphzero said:

It wouldn’t be a good idea to go with Prores, because making a distribution copy would result in another lossy conversion on top of that.

Fair enough. Thought it might be a good balance between the 50gb per 10 minutes he was getting. From my format calculator, uncompressed 8-bit at SD 59.94 should be about 24gb per 10 mins. That would be a good lossless option.

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poppasketti said:

Morphzero said:

It wouldn’t be a good idea to go with Prores, because making a distribution copy would result in another lossy conversion on top of that.

Fair enough. Thought it might be a good balance between the 50gb per 10 minutes he was getting. From my format calculator, uncompressed 8-bit at SD 59.94 should be about 24gb per 10 mins. That would be a good lossless option.

Agree with this,
With this source (TV) Apple Prores 422 is enough…

you can also run with Apple Prores 444 (it will increase the size)
if you want you can have a larger project with a TGA or TIF project as mastering.
But, I don’t think it is a good idea because TGA or TIF is for cinema vfx and mastering process
do you really need this?.

The distribution copy should be MP4 or MKV with a large bit rate, as every shared movies.
Or in BLURAY format.

Nobody will download 90 or 200 GB movie file.

John Williams & Star Wars fan !

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botox1 said:

Sishyo512 said:

Morphzero said:

Sishyo512 said:

Hot damn, a 10 minute video of 1080p 59fps video is 50 gigabytes…

Morphzero said:

Sishyo512 said:

Mavimao said:

Sishyo512 said:

Okay guys, this is actually really frustrating. An export of 26 minutes racks up to 650 GBs I have no clue why it does this, but I would really appreciate some help. If someone would be kind enough to PM me a link of how I can export this without bricking my PC, I will be able to show the world this monstrosity in full HD.

peace

This sounds like you’re exporting your edit at unnecessarily high settings.

yea I lowered it quite a bit, but its still coming in at around the same number

What bitrate and codec are you using to render at?

Its a slightly modified version of DV NTSC booted up to 59 fps. The depth is at 24 bit.

I’d recommend a lossless codec, such as Lagarith or Huffyuv over NTSC DV…

For some reason, even with the bit depth at 8, a 10 minute segment of the project turns into 49 gigabytes. Are there any other recommendations you may have, or should i just start experimenting with stuff?

The size of your project is normal.
The codec you choose for your master, which is the one you work with in Adobe Premiere should not be the same with the one you share with people.
For example:
1- You work with Apple Pro 422 codec (or an other nondestructive codec) for your master and all the editing work in progress. 40 to 90GB is normal with a 422 master (never erase this result master, save it on a hard drive).
2- You have make a distribution copie for people, which should be in MP4 or MKV H264 15000 kbps (You should get between 3 or 8GB as result size).

The result of this second one is the copy you have to share with people.

poppasketti said:

I also recommend prores as a mastering codec. While technically not lossless, the results are fantastic and efficient (10 minutes of 59.94 SD should be about 10gb at prores HQ).

The mp4 settings listed above by botox1 would also look great for distribution.

I wouldn’t change the bitdepth out of the default. I think the confusion here comes from Adobe. They list total bit depth instead of bit depth per channel (channels being Red, Green, Blue, and Alpha). So with RGB footage at 8bits per channel, you have a total of 24bits. Most software, however, would simply call this 8-bit or 8bpc.

Alright, I’m gonna try doing the 422 master, but how should I convert that into an mp4 or mkv file?

I’ve gone batshit several times over for the sake of historical preservation…

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For that, you can use Adobe Media Encoder. Drag in the master file, set the format to H.264, and you can start with the preset “match source - high bitrate”. Then go into the video tab, and you can raise the bitrate even more to something like botox1 was suggesting, 15 mbps.

I assume the audio is stereo? If so, you should be able to leave the setting as is, which should be AAC 320 kbps.

If all you need is H.264 video with stereo audio, the resulting mp4 should be fine. If you want to add separate chapter markers and subtitles you can mux those in with something like mkvtoolnix, which would result in an mkv.

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You could also use Handbrake, since it has better compression options for x264. It will take a long time to compress, but the quality would look better if 2-pass is enabled.

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I FUCKING DID IT GUYS. Well, at least the first 20 minutes cause my PC is taking a while. Ill post the rest when its done rendering. I would like to thank all of you who have helped me export this monstrosity to share with this forum and I hope you enjoy:

|Edited to comply with ToS:)|

edited so the link works is removed

I’ve gone batshit several times over for the sake of historical preservation…

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Sishyo512 said:

I FUCKING DID IT GUYS. Well, at least the first 20 minutes cause my PC is taking a while. Ill post the rest when its done rendering. I would like to thank all of you who have helped me export this monstrosity to share with this forum and I hope you enjoy: https://mega.nz/#!zLxyAazR

Can’t open the link

You have to had the key pass code
with the link!
thank you

John Williams & Star Wars fan !

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botox1 said:

Sishyo512 said:

I FUCKING DID IT GUYS. Well, at least the first 20 minutes cause my PC is taking a while. Ill post the rest when its done rendering. I would like to thank all of you who have helped me export this monstrosity to share with this forum and I hope you enjoy: https://mega.nz/#!zLxyAazR

Can’t open the link

You have to had the key pass code
with the link!
thank you

Fixed it

I’ve gone batshit several times over for the sake of historical preservation…

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Part 2 with key embedded:

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ill post these all at the top once it’s all done

I’ve gone batshit several times over for the sake of historical preservation…

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Sishyo512 said:

I FUCKING DID IT GUYS. Well, at least the first 20 minutes cause my PC is taking a while. Ill post the rest when its done rendering. I would like to thank all of you who have helped me export this monstrosity to share with this forum and I hope you enjoy: Edited to comply with ToS:)

edited so the link works

A question:
Do want to share the full STAR WARS HOLIDAY SPECIAL next time, or several pieces?

Should be great to great the entire show,
thank you for your work the image is incredible!!!

John Williams & Star Wars fan !

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botox1 said:

Sishyo512 said:

I FUCKING DID IT GUYS. Well, at least the first 20 minutes cause my PC is taking a while. Ill post the rest when its done rendering. I would like to thank all of you who have helped me export this monstrosity to share with this forum and I hope you enjoy: https://mega.nz/#!zLxyAazR!dIVRYtfaAttRvtOsiXtHQ6_0xDWlPoPI_u4TcVbzPpw

edited so the link works

A question:
Do want to share the full STAR WARS HOLIDAY SPECIAL next time, or several pieces?

Should be great to great the entire show,
thank you for your work the image is incredible!!!

I wanted to do the full version, but my encoder has been bricking up my PC for a while, and I just needed to get small chunks out before I put together one piece.

I’ve gone batshit several times over for the sake of historical preservation…

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LordZerome1080 said:

Or a brave fan could put it back together themselves.

I guess, you just have to put 8 clips in order and click export

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I goofed up during exporting and part 3 is in 2 sections, but here it is

SWHS Part 3 A: |Edited to comply with ToS:)|
SWHS Part 3 B: |Edited to comply with ToS:)|

Part 4 is also broke in half, but I was able to put it back together

SWHS Part 4: |Edited to comply with ToS:)|

Part 5 coming out tomorrow and full version is coming out on Sunday

Please leave any suggestions for the Version 1.1 release of this for the December holidays! I would also be happy to let anyone try to make their own corrections as well and send it to me so I can put it into the main project.

enjoy!

I’ve gone batshit several times over for the sake of historical preservation…

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Sishyo512 said:

I goofed up during exporting and part 3 is in 2 sections, but here it is

SWHS Part 3 A: Edited to comply with ToS:)
SWHS Part 3 B: Edited to comply with ToS:)

Part 4 is also broke in half, but I was able to put it back together

SWHS Part 4: Edited to comply with ToS:)

Part 5, 6, and 7 are coming out tomorrow and part 8 plus the full version is coming out on Sunday

Please leave any suggestions for the Version 1.1 release of this for the December holidays! I would also be happy to let anyone try to make their own corrections as well and send it to me so I can put it into the main project.

enjoy!

It should be great to have one export with the complete movie.
There is some sound artefacts when we edit it (in the cut).

Oh, something else, can you use the deleted scene from the bluray to insert int the movie (for example the scene with Vador and the officer in the Death star corridor).

John Williams & Star Wars fan !

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Sishyo512 said:

I goofed up during exporting and part 3 is in 2 sections, but here it is

SWHS Part 3 A: Edited to comply with ToS:)
SWHS Part 3 B: Edited to comply with ToS:)

Part 4 is also broke in half, but I was able to put it back together

SWHS Part 4: Edited to comply with ToS:)

Part 5, 6, and 7 are coming out tomorrow and part 8 plus the full version is coming out on Sunday

Please leave any suggestions for the Version 1.1 release of this for the December holidays! I would also be happy to let anyone try to make their own corrections as well and send it to me so I can put it into the main project.

enjoy!

There is to much different parts to download,
and it comes with sound artefacts when we edit it (in the cut transition).

In an other point of vue, we are loosing video quality in editing the movie again in H264.
It is to bad 😦

It should be great to have one export with your complete movie (MKV codec gives the best result),
You should use “Wondershare ultimate converter” software for this (With an H264 MKV with a personalized output using “20 000” or “15 000” KBp).

If you are missing space on your computer, you can use an external hard drive for your Adobe Premiere Master output,
or using an other codec like “Apple Intermediate codec” which is not the best but will give you a lighter master. And it should be good enough for the H264 conversion.

Oh something else:
Can you use the deleted scenes and the Animated segment from the bluray to insert in the movie (for example the scene with Vador and the officer in the Death star corridor, Tatooine streets, etc…).

Thank you again

John Williams & Star Wars fan !

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botox1 said:

Sishyo512 said:

I goofed up during exporting and part 3 is in 2 sections, but here it is

SWHS Part 3 A: https://mega.nz/#!SDY1gQDL!A7ZN-fWi7gUg39jYKkdZqNuG0Szd3NCb2Hm_ZpAAeGw
SWHS Part 3 B: https://mega.nz/#!eTpxVCgI!JRruymUaHx6yBiKy5Bz1NTcp9Yz2TFDLG_K6h85n6jA

Part 4 is also broke in half, but I was able to put it back together

SWHS Part 4: https://mega.nz/#!qDwG3KzK!sQ8HV_LfhSZ9-DsijOrs_mOnlwDx4LO1Of9kGIrIxQU

Part 5, 6, and 7 are coming out tomorrow and part 8 plus the full version is coming out on Sunday

Please leave any suggestions for the Version 1.1 release of this for the December holidays! I would also be happy to let anyone try to make their own corrections as well and send it to me so I can put it into the main project.

enjoy!

There is to much different parts to download,
and it comes with sound artefacts when we edit it (in the cut transition).

In an other point of vue, we are loosing video quality in editing the movie again in H264.
It is to bad 😦

It should be great to have one export with your complete movie (MKV codec gives the best result),
You should use “Wondershare ultimate converter” software for this (With an H264 MKV with a personalized output using “20 000” or “15 000” KBp).

If you are missing space on your computer, you can use an external hard drive for your Adobe Premiere Master output,
or using an other codec like “Apple Intermediate codec” which is not the best but will give you a lighter master. And it should be good enough for the H264 conversion.

Oh something else:
Can you use the deleted scenes and the Animated segment from the bluray to insert in the movie (for example the scene with Vador and the officer in the Death star corridor, Tatooine streets, etc…).

Thank you again

There is no “MKV codec”