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ZkinandBonez said:

Does anyone know what big Barsoom characters were turned into the giant stormtroopers? (I couldn’t even find an EU explanation/retcon on Wookieepedia.)

Correction; I did find an EU explanation of the giant stormtroopers, which in turn kind of explains who they replaced.

They were apparently T’Syriél renegades equipped with modified stormtrooper armour by Sk’ar. That makes sense, though the comic never really made this apparent. The T’Syriél, whom I assume are Green Martians re-drawn to have two arms instead of four, appear so briefly at the beginning of the first of the two issues that it’s easy to forget them all-together.

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I finally got around to finishing the clean version of SW #25 using the German and Mexican covers as reference for Leia’s right hand. My original hand looked kinda weird, and it still might look a little off, but at least now I can blame it on the foreign cover artists.

I also did some light editing on SWW #99.

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screams in the void said:

neat …those would make cool posters . would also be neat to see them in anaglyph 3d

That’s an interesting idea. If I had any idea how to do that I’d definitely try it. However, my image-manipulation skills don’t extend any further than photoshop (and I’m hardly an expert at that as well).

Also, before I googled what anaglyph actually was I though you meant something more like these gifs or even an animated version, which would also be pretty cool to do with Marvel SW covers (again if I had any idea how).

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that gif is awesome ! would be cool to see something like that .and as to the animation , I did something similar to that a while back , really simple cheesy animation with a text to speech engine called Cepstral that was free and in beta at the time , as well as sound effects and sound bites from the movie for the first issue of the marvel star wars comic …https://vimeo.com/6330569

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The Massassi story in “The Night Beast” comic strip set the stage for important Sith lore and various gods referenced throughout the comics set the stage for Abeloth.

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^yes , I like the way they retconned some things into the "legends "cannon , such as the Slivilith beast from Issue 55 of the old Marvel Star Wars being an advanced scout for the Vong . I also remember in the early 90’s when The Marvel series was looked at as kind of a joke and not considered a part of the "official " canon. That is until they decided some of those stories had merit and incorporated them after all . This is a major reason why the Canon VS Legends debate does not and has never mattered to me at all . The original Marvel series was my first expanded universe , then it went away for five years , then more books and comics by other publishers came out , but I could still find that old stuff in back issue bins at comic shops and it still existed . Same as today , I can find that old “legends” material in bookstores , and still in print .

https://screamsinthevoid.deviantart.com/

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My latest haul of classic SW.
I finally got my hands on some Star Wars Weekly magazines from the UK. I found a really great shop in London called 30th Century Comics, with one of the largest and most well curated collections I’ve ever seen in a comic shop.

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ZkinandBonez said:

My latest haul of classic SW.
I finally got my hands on some Star Wars Weekly magazines from the UK. I found a really great shop in London called 30th Century Comics, with one of the largest and most well curated collections I’ve ever seen in a comic shop.

Cool haul dude ! I love those UK covers , I saw a whole collection of those issues at the Chicago Comic Con back in 95 and was awestruck by them as I never knew about them until then . Unfortunately , I was flat broke and could not buy them . Would love to have them all just for the extra artwork and back up features ,they would be a great compliment to my full set of the US issues

https://screamsinthevoid.deviantart.com/

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screams in the void said:

ZkinandBonez said:

My latest haul of classic SW.
I finally got my hands on some Star Wars Weekly magazines from the UK. I found a really great shop in London called 30th Century Comics, with one of the largest and most well curated collections I’ve ever seen in a comic shop.

Cool haul dude ! I love those UK covers , I saw a whole collection of those issues at the Chicago Comic Con back in 95 and was awestruck by them as I never knew about them until then . Unfortunately , I was flat broke and could not buy them . Would love to have them all just for the extra artwork and back up features ,they would be a great compliment to my full set of the US issues

The big size of them really does makes those covers feel like mini-posters. It was pretty cool seeing a whole box full of them. I was quite tempted to get several more just for the covers.

My current goal is to more-or-less complete my Goodwin/Infantino SW collection by just getting the story-lines exclusive for the UK. They didn’t have all of them however, so I grabbed those two Leia issues as well just for fun so that I could compare them to the US issue. It’s fun to see Infantino’s UK recap pages, as well as how they turned small plot-points in the US comic into cliffhangers in the UK issues.

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^ I have seen galleries of all of the UK covers , I remember at one point they just started using promotional photos or photos from the film itself for the covers and only did a few painted covers now and then .There was also a small gallery of UK covers in one of the US issues of The Empire Strikes Back adaptation and it was really neat to see Infantino’s interpretation of Empire .

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Archie Goodwin’s layout sketches next to Carmine Infantino’s finished art for the first four pages of SW #31.




I find these fascinating as, to my knowledge, it’s quite rare for a comic writer to sketch out the lay-out of a comic and then hand them over to the actual illustrator.

It’s also interesting to see just how similar the finished art is to the sketches. Apart from a few changes in angle/perspective, the compositions are practically much the same.

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ZkinandBonez said:

Archie Goodwin’s layout sketches next to Carmine Infantino’s finished art for the first four pages of SW #31.

I find these fascinating as, to my knowledge, it’s quite rare for a comic writer to sketch out the lay-out of a comic and then hand them over to the actual illustrator.

It’s also interesting to see just how similar the finished art is to the sketches. Apart from a few changes in angle/perspective, the compositions are practically much the same.

Wow, I’d heard about these but had no idea Archie was so thorough. Great find!

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wow wow wow ! Where did you find these ? I had no idea how detailed and precise Archie Goodwin’s layout sketches were ! He was a pretty good artist judging from this , with a great sense of visual storytelling . Yes , great find , thank you for sharing !

https://screamsinthevoid.deviantart.com/

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screams in the void said:

wow wow wow ! Where did you find these ? I had no idea how detailed and precise Archie Goodwin’s layout sketches were ! He was a pretty good artist judging from this , with a great sense of visual storytelling . Yes , great find , thank you for sharing !

http://marvel1980s.blogspot.com/2015/09/1979-star-wars-31.html?m=1

I actually found these a long time ago, before this thread was created, and had completely forgotten that I had these pictures until recently. I’ve tried to find more info, but haven’t found any other mention than what’s in the link above.

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screams in the void said:

I had no idea how detailed and precise Archie Goodwin’s layout sketches were ! He was a pretty good artist judging from this , with a great sense of visual storytelling .

I’ve been googling Goodwin as an artist, and apparently he did start out as an both an artist and an “art assistant”. However, he had quite a range of jobs within comics over the years so it’s hard to single out what he might actually have drawn or helped to draw.

But I did find these letters where he included cartoonish doodles of himself. But that, and the above thumbnail sketches, was all I could find (for now) as far as Goodwin drawings go.

Goodwin/Batman doodle
Godwin/Superman doodle
Bombay Gimlet doodle

Either way, as much as I love Infantino’s art, it’s cool to know that so many elements of the art from those early SW comics is actually attributed to Goodwin.

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That’s awesome!

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Not quite as unique as Goodwin’s thumbnail sketches, but I always find these uncoloured comics pages pretty fascinating. (From SW #38 “Riders in the Void”).

I don’t know exactly how that effect in the second panel is done, but the same moire-like patern often shows up in John Byrne’s art and I remember hearing some place that they had this special type of paper that you could scratch off the white surface and it would reveal these fancy patterns underneath. It was apparently an easy way to add some textures to comics without having to add something later during the printing process.

Source; http://marvel1980s.blogspot.com/2014/06/1980-star-wars-38.html

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^ another awesome find ! that is one of my favorite issues and the one where I felt they started to get the artwork looking accurate to the movies . I love the panel layout in that first scan . As I know you are an Infantino fan ZkinandBonez you may like this site for finding original art from the series …
https://www.comicartfans.com/searchresult.asp?PM=2&txtSearch=carmine+infantino+star+wars&Order=&PI=18 and from the same site , and more to my tastes , Tom Palmer inks over various pencillers such as Ron Frenz and others …https://www.comicartfans.com/searchresult.asp?PM=1&txtSearch=tom+palmer+star+wars&Order=&PI=18

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screams in the void said:

^ another awesome find ! that is one of my favorite issues and the one where I felt they started to get the artwork looking accurate to the movies . I love the panel layout in that first scan .

It wouldn’t surprise me if it turned out that Michael Golden had a copy of The Star Wars Portfolio on his desk as he drew that issue. The second panel is strikingly similar to Ralph McQuarrie’s painting of a TIE pilot.

It’s too bad Golden didn’t do any more SW. He has a great dynamic style that fits the series really well, and like you said, he made it look a lot more like the movies in terms of detail.

(I also really like his Y-Wing-shaped shuttle design; SW #38 splash page )

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^ I think you are correct about that second panel . There were more than a few nods to McQuarrie as well as Joe Johnston’s sketches in the series . I also suspect they had a copy of The Art Of Star Wars book various artists drew from for inspiration .And yeah , that shuttle is a great design ! I also see an influence of the Falcon’s mandibles there .

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Does anyone know who did the art on p.28 (see picture below) for SW #47 “Droid World”. The first page only lists Infantino as the artist (which is quite clear from the art itself) and Gene Day as the inker. But p.28 (the second-to-last page) is clearly drawn by someone else with a noticeably different art style. I’ve had the Norwegian version of this issue since I was a kid, and it has always really bugged me.

(PS. This is from the Norwegian version. I have the American version as well but I’d already scanned the Norwegian one recently, plus the art is untouched and the colours are pretty much the same in both versions anyway.)

And for reference; this is what Luke normally looks like in this issue.

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ZkinandBonez said:

Does anyone know who did the art on p.28 (see picture below) for SW #47 “Droid World”. The first page only lists Infantino as the artist (which is quite clear from the art itself) and Gene Day as the inker. But p.28 (the second-to-last page) is clearly drawn by someone else with a noticeably different art style. I’ve had the Norwegian version of this issue since I was a kid, and it has always really bugged me.

(PS. This is from the Norwegian version. I have the American version as well but I’d already scanned the Norwegian one recently, plus the art is untouched and the colours are pretty much the same in both versions anyway.)

I don’t have the issue in front of me, but I always assumed that page was Gene Day. I recall a strip he did somewhere amongst the Conan stuff that looked like this. I’m assuming an Infantino page went missing and Gene quickly flew solo for this one. I could be wrong though…