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Holy hell, I love those Tech-inspired regrades! Would love to see the movie with a LUT like this applied, even though I really don’t have any issue with the original colors.

And from the screenshots I’ve seen of the BR, Solo is in desperate need of exactly this style of regrade, too.

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Looks fantastic! The original grade looks terrible, one of my biggest annoyances with the film.

“Always in motion is the future” 🌌

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i’m inclined to agree with depheros in regard to the original grade. it just looked so modern/digital. the new tech-based grade is incredible.

neverar, do you plan on releasing this separately as a lut?

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ChainsawAsh said:

Holy hell, I love those Tech-inspired regrades! Would love to see the movie with a LUT like this applied, even though I really don’t have any issue with the original colors.

And from the screenshots I’ve seen of the BR, Solo is in desperate need of exactly this style of regrade, too.

Definitely agree on Solo. I can appreciate a shadowy Godfather-esque look, but in the theater it was just unpleasant to watch.

Collipso said:

i’m inclined to agree with depheros in regard to the original grade. it just looked so modern/digital. the new tech-based grade is incredible.

neverar, do you plan on releasing this separately as a lut?

Definitely!

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If you do a LUT, I can apply it to my project and see how it looks. (Not sure if it was just DrDre’s LUT for TLJ that caused artifact issues or FCPX’s application of it.)

My stance on revising fan edits.

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In the past few days I’ve tried out Davinci Resolve for LUTs, and though I’m not comfortable enough with making a full Technicolor print emulation LUT, here is a more modest one that removes some of the more modern gradients from TFA and adds in some print characteristics:

https://mega.nz/#!6Q0EGAqB!u1Gdl4KD4k-qKKOUhcGMRoc5-6XCtXFQmxAyYZuVRZY

https://diff.pics/Pm7_wcYYABAA/5

JEDIT: Modified and improved v5:
https://mega.nz/#!TNsBlLYL!oWeLEJCIlCyVanDqavLVqplsiP2Lk07dMuOMTRqYhlk

https://diff.pics/TzSAOV8WnXmq/1
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The differences between this grade and the original Photoshop version can be more clearly seen with this curves adjustment applied to the latest Resolve version:
https://diff.pics/i54MpC7VYKsz/1
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I rather like the Resolve version, but let me know what you think.

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Looks fantastic! And yeah, I prefer the Resolve version as well.

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i’m a bit confused as to which version is which but even though the newest ones look incredible, i prefer the more radical ones from a few days ago.

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I just did a little test and I am not encountering the bizarre issue I had when trying to apply DrDre’s LUT to TLJ. I’m thinking this LUT of yours will be a nice addition to V3 of my own TFA project. 😄

My stance on revising fan edits.

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Collipso said:

i’m a bit confused as to which version is which but even though the newest ones look incredible, i prefer the more radical ones from a few days ago.

Yes, I think the more aggressive curves adjustment on the first attempt was better in the dark scenes (which comprised most of my comparisons), but I had to dial it down because it was overexposing the exterior shots. As the latest comparison shows however, the two grades are pretty similar colorwise and only need slight brightness adjustments based on the scene to work as well.

Hal 9000 said:

I just did a little test and I am not encountering the bizarre issue I had when trying to apply DrDre’s LUT to TLJ. I’m thinking this LUT of yours will be a nice addition to V3 of my own TFA project. 😄

Excellent! It probably won’t be the last version of course, but I’m fairly happy with it right now.

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These look great Nev! I like all of it, but the snow battle especially looks beautiful. Keep it up!

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NeverarGreat said:

Collipso said:

i’m a bit confused as to which version is which but even though the newest ones look incredible, i prefer the more radical ones from a few days ago.

Yes, I think the more aggressive curves adjustment on the first attempt was better in the dark scenes (which comprised most of my comparisons), but I had to dial it down because it was overexposing the exterior shots. As the latest comparison shows however, the two grades are pretty similar colorwise and only need slight brightness adjustments based on the scene to work as well.

oh i hadn’t seen the jedit. looks better than the first one you had earlier today, imo. you’re always doing a great job, neverar 😃

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One more upload before I go to bed, this time giving the entire movie the curves adjustment from the first test, and adding some film grain for that authentic look:

Part 1
https://diff.pics/WS1D8LcxX_K3/1

Part 2
https://diff.pics/VukQUk0usBH-/1

Surprisingly, most of the exterior shots work well, though they could all use some fine tuning. Similarly, the very dark shots lose some detail. Any curves adjustment beyond the LUT would have to be on a scene-by-scene basis.

Hal, have you considered adding film grain to v3? 😉

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Nice work! Personally I prefer the look without your extra curves adjustments, a little more subtle. I’m working on a new grade for my edit as well, inspired by your efforts here. I’ll try out your LUT too, thanks for sharing!

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Sir Ridley said:

Nice work! Personally I prefer the look without your extra curves adjustments, a little more subtle. I’m working on a new grade for my edit as well, inspired by your efforts here. I’ll try out your LUT too, thanks for sharing!

I agree that the original brightness is quite adequate in most places, and no global LUT is going to fix it. The extra contrast in the last screenshots was just to see how bad the brightest shots fared.

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I’m inclined not to add grain but I could see how it looks overlaid with your LUT.

The comparisons above with the LUT + Curves + Grain have ruined me on the ungrained version - now the skin tones look way too plastic-y without it, at least to me.

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NeverarGreat said:

Sir Ridley said:

Nice work! Personally I prefer the look without your extra curves adjustments, a little more subtle. I’m working on a new grade for my edit as well, inspired by your efforts here. I’ll try out your LUT too, thanks for sharing!

I agree that the original brightness is quite adequate in most places, and no global LUT is going to fix it. The extra contrast in the last screenshots was just to see how bad the brightest shots fared.

I don’t disagree with making the film brighter in dark scenes, but the last screenshots have a saturated green and orange look to it with a bit too much contrast for my taste. Personally I would rather brighten the mid-range or increase the exposure in the dark scenes instead of increasing the overall contrast. But you do what makes sense for your Technicolor look, our goals are a bit different.

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Sounds good to me! I’ll upload some pics of my grade later.

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I look forward to seeing it!

Very small update to the LUT, bringing it to version 6:
https://mega.nz/#!Pc9zFDbB!sEw-dHHktjkgTF6un8N24pQxdDx65wql-JoRQUxTnf4

The only change is to very slightly decrease the luminosity of the blue hues.

Unfortunately I can’t super fine tune this LUT at the moment, since whenever I open the project in Resolve it quickly eats up all my memory and then proceeds to freeze. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted…

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NeverarGreat said:

Collipso said:

i’m a bit confused as to which version is which but even though the newest ones look incredible, i prefer the more radical ones from a few days ago.

Yes, I think the more aggressive curves adjustment on the first attempt was better in the dark scenes (which comprised most of my comparisons), but I had to dial it down because it was overexposing the exterior shots. As the latest comparison shows however, the two grades are pretty similar colorwise and only need slight brightness adjustments based on the scene to work as well.

I’m not a color gradingologist, so forgive me when what I’m about to say inevitably is stupid, but how believable/good looking would it be if you had separate color grading for light and dark shots/scenes?

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SparkySywer said:

NeverarGreat said:

Collipso said:

i’m a bit confused as to which version is which but even though the newest ones look incredible, i prefer the more radical ones from a few days ago.

Yes, I think the more aggressive curves adjustment on the first attempt was better in the dark scenes (which comprised most of my comparisons), but I had to dial it down because it was overexposing the exterior shots. As the latest comparison shows however, the two grades are pretty similar colorwise and only need slight brightness adjustments based on the scene to work as well.

I’m not a color gradingologist, so forgive me when what I’m about to say inevitably is stupid, but how believable/good looking would it be if you had separate color grading for light and dark shots/scenes?

I don’t have a degree in gradology either, but I expect it would be quite a simple matter to use the LUT as a base and have two standard curves adjustments to be applied on a scene by scene basis. That would be quite decent.

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