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I was more specifically thinking about the Cantina, there’s a few guys at the bar and a special edition alien (one of the ones that replaces wolfman).

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snooker said:

I was more specifically thinking about the Cantina, there’s a few guys at the bar and a special edition alien (one of the ones that replaces wolfman).

Yeah, it’s closest to a water pipe. But vaping fits now too!

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One frog makes you larger, and one frog makes you small, and the ones that Mon Mothma gives you don’t do anything at all. . . .

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I was reading the word “punishment,” and I read it aloud how the gungan king in TPM says “pewnished.”

I bow my head in shame.

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I feel kind of dumb, but it wasn’t until after I’d seen Solo (twice!) that I realized that those two lights weren’t L3’s eyes:

L3

I think the reason for this is because in the brief glimpses we caught of her in the trailers, I latched onto the idea that those were her eyes and I could not unsee them. That or I had Wall-E’s robots on my mind

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I don’t know about this , seems to me like this " easter egg " is kind of retroactive and made up on the fly …https://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2018/09/author-jason-fry-shines-light-on-a-long-hidden-star-wars-easter-egg.html I thought the guy was shouting " The Empire’s Down "! and I have always thought of Tatooine’s twin suns as G1 and G2 since they were named that in the 1978 Star Wars Storyboook I had as a kid and still have a beat up copy of .

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Wait, was Rey Unkar Plutt’s slave?

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I don’t see any onscreen evidence to suggest that. She’s just one of many scraping out a meager living as a scavenger, and Plutt is the guy everybody sells their stuff to. (He may be the only person to do such business with.) The implication is there that she hasn’t taken any opportunity to get off-world before because of her forlorn hope her parents were coming back. It’s definitely not an Anakin/Watto situation.

If she was a slave, Plutt would have ordered her to hand over BB-8, not tempt her with bigger food rations.

Why she was left as a child with such a unsavory character we may never find out.

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Yeah, but she was sold to someone, making her their property, right?

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Where is it said she was sold? We only hear Plutt’s voice in the Force vision flashback in TFA, so I don’t know who else could be her owner.

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Didnt Kylo Ren say she was sold for drink money or something like that in the parental revelation in TLJ?

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‘They were filthy junk traders; Sold you off for drinking money. They’re dead in a pauper’s grave in the Jakku desert’

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This is probably a Tomato/Tomahto situation, but you could think of her as more of an indentured servant rather than a slave.

It seems like most “slaves” in the galaxy have implants that slave-owners can detonate if they try to escape. Anakin and Shmi mention having them in TPM, and it could be another justification for why Finn and Rose couldn’t really do anything to help the slave children escape on Canto Bight for the very brief time they were around them.

Obviously Rey doesn’t have one of these implants because Unkar Plutt never retaliates. Now, I think most of the people who live at Nima Outpost are practically slaves of Unkar Plutt, since he is there only means of food on Jakku, but he doesn’t own them. So they’re more like slaves to the system rather than being property of Unkar Plutt himself. They don’t have to collect scrap for food if they don’t want to, but they’ll probably starve if they don’t.

So I’m guessing Unkar just bought Rey so she was stuck at Nima Outpost, and then had her become dependent on his junk for food system.

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RogueLeader said:

This is probably a Tomato/Tomahto situation, but you could think of her as more of an indentured servant rather than a slave.

It seems like most “slaves” in the galaxy have implants that slave-owners can detonate if they try to escape. Anakin and Shmi mention having them in TPM, and it could be another justification for why Finn and Rose couldn’t really do anything to help the slave children escape on Canto Bight for the very brief time they were around them.

Obviously Rey doesn’t have one of these implants because Unkar Plutt never retaliates. Now, I think most of the people who live at Nima Outpost are practically slaves of Unkar Plutt, since he is there only means of food on Jakku, but he doesn’t own them. So they’re more like slaves to the system rather than being property of Unkar Plutt himself. They don’t have to collect scrap for food if they don’t want to, but they’ll probably starve if they don’t.

So I’m guessing Unkar just bought Rey so she was stuck at Nima Outpost, and then had her become dependent on his junk for food system.

So did he or did he not buy her?

This line of inquiry raises so many questions I hadn’t considered before. Did Rian mean to imply that Rey was an actual slave, and if so did he mean to suggest that she had a bomb in her head? Maybe JJ avoided the actual slavery angle precisely to avoid this question, since it’s one of the most bizarre and uncomfortable facts in the prequels.

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Especially since the good guys never did a damn thing about the slave situation on Tatooine in the prequels. 😉

Not sure we should take anything said by Kylo as the gospel truth though.

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RogueLeader said:

It seems like most “slaves” in the galaxy have implants that slave-owners can detonate if they try to escape. Anakin and Shmi mention having them in TPM

We really see slavery only once in the saga, which is in TPM, and there, slaves have bombs in them. Concluding that most slaves all over the galaxy also have bombs in them seems like a bit of a stretch. Especially since TFA takes place 60 years after TPM.

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@Nev

I think it is implied that he did buy her. I definitely don’t think she had a slave implant since Unkar never used it on her. She’s not Unkar’s property, though, more like an employee.
So she isn’t a slave, technically, but she lives in slave-like conditions. That’s what I think at least.

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Haha, exactly. Some people seem to forget that!

Even if freeing her was against the Jedi’s rules, why didn’t Padmé go back and free her? She’s a queen! She has the means. Plus, Shmi was the one who gave Anakin consent to be in the podrace, so she really should be thanking her too. Just buy her and set her up in a nice apartment in Theed. Thanks a lot Padmé!

I would be surprised if they revealed anymore about her parents in IX. I honestly think that story is done. Although I still think that line about them being buried somewhere in the Jakku desert seemingly contradicts Rey seeing a ship fly away from Jakku in her vision. It would be nice for that discrepancy to be clarified.

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That’s very true! Just because one instance shows that doesn’t mean it’s the same across the galaxy.

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Frank your Majesty said:

RogueLeader said:

It seems like most “slaves” in the galaxy have implants that slave-owners can detonate if they try to escape. Anakin and Shmi mention having them in TPM

We really see slavery only once in the saga, which is in TPM, and there, slaves have bombs in them. Concluding that most slaves all over the galaxy also have bombs in them seems like a bit of a stretch. Especially since TFA takes place 60 years after TPM.

It’s given a passing mention in AOTC as Anakin goes to see Watto, who has long since sold her to Cliegg Lars, who freed her.
Whether anyone besides Oola, (and her royal replacement) in Jabba’s palace is a slave is up for debate.

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With “really see”, I mean “explained in detail”. Yes, we see people who can reasonably be assumed to be slaves in the other films, but the only time someone has more than just one or two lines of dialogue about slavery is in TPM.

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NeverarGreat said:

Prisoners with jobs

EXACTLY.
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It’s given a passing mention in AOTC as Anakin goes to see Watto, who has long since sold her to Cliegg Lars, who freed her.
Whether anyone besides Oola, (and her royal replacement) in Jabba’s palace is a slave is up for debate.

Oola, and slave Leia to a degree, are good examples too. I think they’re definitely slaves, (hence Slave Leia) but it definitely doesn’t seem like they have slave implants. Which backs up Frank’s point.

EDIT: Though if a junk dealer like Watto could afford implants for his slaves, you’d think Jabba could too. Unless he just didn’t like them for whatever reason.

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Was it ever established how big a boom a slave implant would be? Enough to kill people nearby or cripple a spaceship?

Jabba wouldn’t want his Rancor to get a tummy ache. 😉

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