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fmalover said:

AOTC’s only saving grace for me is the lightsaber duel between Yoda and Dooku (yes I enjoy that scene, sue me).

Lots of people bash that scene, but when I saw it in the theater, the entire audience lost it when Yoda opened his robe and Force-pulled the lightsaber into his hand.

It seems hardcore Star Wars fans are likely as detached from what audiences like about the prequels (and probably sequels) as what they don’t.

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Jay said:

fmalover said:

AOTC’s only saving grace for me is the lightsaber duel between Yoda and Dooku (yes I enjoy that scene, sue me).

Lots of people bash that scene, but when I saw it in the theater, the entire audience lost it when Yoda opened his robe and Force-pulled the lightsaber into his hand.

It seems hardcore Star Wars fans are likely as detached from what audiences like about the prequels (and probably sequels) as what they don’t.

Same here. (I remember a similar theater reaction)

and I think you were right about lots of people still liking that. But on the flip side I think lots of people view those movies as not that serious and so it is easier for them to enjoy those somewhat silly fun action scenes.

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I always wanted to see Yoda in a saber duel, but look like Sonic The Hedgehog while doing it?

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I said it before, say it again - Yoda with a lightsabre is like Gandhi with a machine gun

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pittrek said:

I said it before, say it again - Yoda with a lightsabre is like Gandhi with a machine gun

Which would be pretty cool, logic be damned.

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pittrek said:

I said it before, say it again - Yoda with a lightsabre is like Gandhi with a machine gun

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pittrek said:

I said it before, say it again - Yoda with a lightsabre is like Gandhi with a machine gun

JEDIT: Darn you, Mocata!

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ROTS is my pick of the PT…no contest. It had some drama, real feels at times and except for the Frankenstein homage and “Nooooo” I was genuinely moved by the ending. It felt like something that would create Vader.

I did not like the lava level with jumping jedi. That was so video game like that i was completely pulled out of the film.

The duel between Palpatine and Yoda was epic imo and worth half of the ticket cost. The former was acted so openly evil that I was cheering for him (just a little bit 😉 )

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pittrek said:

I said it before, say it again - Yoda with a lightsabre is like Gandhi with a machine gun

There’s nothing in the OT to indicate Yoda was a pacifist. We may not have seen him fight, but in ESB he trained Luke in the art of defense, and in RotJ he specifically told Luke that he must confront Vader in order to become a Jedi (with Obi-Wan basically telling him not long after that he had to kill him).

I don’t have a problem with Lucas modeling prequel Yoda after the martial arts master who plays old and feeble until he’s required to kick ass. The other strong audience reaction I saw was to Yoda Force-pulling his cane and resuming his hobbled stance just before people arrived on the scene.

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pittrek said:

I said it before, say it again - Yoda with a lightsabre is like Gandhi with a machine gun

An apter analogy is Superman using a plane to fly.

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Jay said:

pittrek said:

I said it before, say it again - Yoda with a lightsabre is like Gandhi with a machine gun

There’s nothing in the OT to indicate Yoda was a pacifist. We may not have seen him fight, but in ESB he trained Luke in the art of defense, and in RotJ he specifically told Luke that he must confront Vader in order to become a Jedi (with Obi-Wan basically telling him not long after that he had to kill him).

I don’t have a problem with Lucas modeling prequel Yoda after the martial arts master who plays old and feeble until he’s required to kick ass. The other strong audience reaction I saw was to Yoda Force-pulling his cane and resuming his hobbled stance just before people arrived on the scene.

Interesting. I never thought of it in terms of concealing that he could still kick butt. No secret to fellow Jedi, but to everyone else?

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pittrek said:

I said it before, say it again - Yoda with a lightsabre is like Gandhi with a machine gun

An apter analogy is Superman using a plane to fly.

I gotta agree here . in my opinion , both Yoda and the Emperor should be above the use of them , my go to fan edits cut these scenes out .

Attack of The Ridiculousness just dubs in Daffy Duck sounds as Yoda whirls about.

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SilverWook said:

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pittrek said:

I said it before, say it again - Yoda with a lightsabre is like Gandhi with a machine gun

An apter analogy is Superman using a plane to fly.

I gotta agree here . in my opinion , both Yoda and the Emperor should be above the use of them , my go to fan edits cut these scenes out .

Attack of The Ridiculousness just dubs in Daffy Duck sounds as Yoda whirls about.

sweet !!!

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ROTS is definitely my least favorite. It’s got the laziest, most haphazard writing of the lot. I get the distinct impression that it’s just going through a checklist of things that still needed to happen in that trilogy without any effort to arrange it into an elegant arc. The Grievous character is one of the most irksome examples of this. It seems painfully obvious to me that his only reason to exist is because they killed Dooku off too early and needed a secondary antagonist for the bulk of the movie. He’s only there to give Obi-Wan something to do while Anakin’s going bad. The infuriating thing is that Dooku had the potential to be an interesting character but they never made any attempt to pay his story off.

I’ve also never been able to shake the sense that from around the Jedi Purge onward, the script sort of treats its characters like a kid playing with action figures. Yoda fighting the Emperor has always struck me as particularly stupid as others have said, but Yoda and Obi-Wan cutting down swaths of clones at the temple has always rubbed me the wrong way too. Oh, and bringing up the thing about Qui-Gon’s ghost out of nowhere in dialogue instead of, y’know, having Qui-Gon’s ghost appear. God that movie is dumb.

I’ve actually grown sort of fond of AOTC recently. It’s not a good movie, to be sure, but it is so goddamn weird, and I just can’t help but have some appreciation for that strangeness. TPM’s got its moments for nostalgia’s sake but it’s largely a snoozefest, and I’m bothered by how slapdash and half-assed ROTS is, but I think AOTC is off-beat enough to be interesting.

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IIRC, Qui-Gon was only going to be heard talking to Yoda, not seen. It’s still unclear to me why Liam never came back to do a voiceover. I doubt that he wasn’t interested, as he did do Qui-Gon for Clone Wars. If he was off working on a film somewhere, they couldn’t arrange a recording session and a satellite hookup? He could have knocked those lines in the ROTS script out in a hour or less.

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How you feel about RotS probably depends a lot on how much you care about story versus execution. RotS because I’m just glad to see the story unfold, even if it’s not perfect. Some people find it’s poor execution more offensive because it’s a more important episode, but I just like because it’s important.

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The score is so good it makes me feel the emotional weight its supposed to have without the actors having to sell it. (Which isn’t the actors fault. They are all great actors. Even Hayden. But you can only emote so much in that environment.)

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“I’m so sorry” by itself without any context is such a heartwrenching song.

It’s by far my favorite track from the prequels.

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Some spots in rots score actually gives me goosebumps and makes me emotional.

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One of my favorite tracks is Anakin’s dark deeds.

“Get over violence, madness and death? What else is there?”

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So, there are people here who say TPM is the best PT film?
…but its plot is completely pointless, as the only relevant bits are summed up by character dialogue in AOTC. The very fact that you can watch Star Wars in machete order (4-5-2-3-6) and cut out TPM altogether without missing anything says something.

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From what I’ve gathered; people’s enjoyment/tolerance of the PT tends to hinge on either filmmaking execution or lore-importance.

Some people prefer TPM simply because it’s (arguably) the most well made of the three.

Though I personally think ROTS is the better story, I find TPM much more interesting overall. I’ve also noticed that many film-buffs, as well as film students (like myself), tend to be very fascinated by TPM.

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