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Tickle Me Spock?

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Where were you in '77?

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I totally did not know Adam Nimoy is married to Terry Farrell. That puts Dax swooning over Spock in Trials and Tribbleations in a weird new light. 😉

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Handman said:

Mrebo said:

Spock is becoming the Elmo of Star Trek.

That is a very good analogy.

Thank you, I love your new avatar.

The blue elephant in the room.

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Spock as Elmo is nothing new. Hell, Spock was Elmo before Elmo was Elmo.

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SilverWook said:

I totally did not know Adam Nimoy is married to Terry Farrell. That puts Dax swooning over Spock in Trials and Tribbleations in a weird new light. 😉

I had no clue, that’s actually impressive. By the way, a few days ago I was watching a documentary about the FX legends - Skotak brothers. To my surprise I found out that Dennis Skotak is married to D.C. Fontana

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I could have sworn we discussed this several pages back? Contract haggling is nothing new in Hollywood. Maybe they’ll drop the idea of bringing Kirk’s Dad back, which the studio only cares about since Hemsworth is a big star now. Give the time travel shenanigans a rest for once.
Unless Q drops in and gives Kirk a chance to save his father, oh wait, they’ve done that before. 😉

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SilverWook said:

Unless Q drops in and gives Kirk a chance to save his father, oh wait, they’ve done that before. 😉

When did that happen? I don’t ever remember any story that had both Kirk and Q in it, in either timeline.

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SilverWook said:

I could have sworn we discussed this several pages back? Contract haggling is nothing new in Hollywood. Maybe they’ll drop the idea of bringing Kirk’s Dad back, which the studio only cares about since Hemsworth is a big star now. Give the time travel shenanigans a rest for once.
Unless Q drops in and gives Kirk a chance to save his father, oh wait, they’ve done that before. 😉

At this point it could be more cost effective to pay up for Hemsworth than to scrap the script and come up with something else.

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Before it was just Hemsworth, now they’ve lost Pine as well. And I would not recommend trying to move forward without him.

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Tobar said:

Before it was just Hemsworth, now they’ve lost Pine as well. And I would not recommend trying to move forward without him.

No, that’s not true. When the story first broke it was both of them. And there’s a very slim chance they don’t try to get Pine back.

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Ah, this was brought up on the 11th. Months ago when the rumors first started it was just Hemsworth.

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Warbler said:

SilverWook said:

Unless Q drops in and gives Kirk a chance to save his father, oh wait, they’ve done that before. 😉

When did that happen? I don’t ever remember any story that had both Kirk and Q in it, in either timeline.

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Tobar said:

Looks like the Kelvin Timeline is dead

Well, the 3rd season of Twin Peaks had gone through publicly bumpy negotations that included Lynch throwing in the towel at one point, but it happened in the end:

https://www.syfy.co.uk/news/bad-news-david-lynch-wont-be-directing-the-twin-peaks-revival

They’ll work something out - hopefully with the side effect of scaling the budget down to where it’ll be possible to make it back this time around?

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Ethan Peck is the new Spock for Discovery season 2.

Ugh. Spock shouldn’t be on that show. I saw the trailer, and the way they worded “It all leads to Spock!!!” or something like that was ridiculous. Spock was literally just a guy in the original show. A conflicted, important Starfleet guy, but still just a guy.

It still took them longer than I expected to play the ‘Chosen One’ card this explicitly. Pretty much a decade into the Kelvin reboot movies, though those have already been plotted out in that manner to a large extent (Kirk is destined to be the captain, his friendship with Spock is destined to happen etc - no matter how contrived both end up being).

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Warbler said:

SilverWook said:

Unless Q drops in and gives Kirk a chance to save his father, oh wait, they’ve done that before. 😉

When did that happen? I don’t ever remember any story that had both Kirk and Q in it, in either timeline.

Not Kirk. There’s an “interactive movie” video game called Star Trek: Borg, where a Starfleet cadet is taken back in time 10 years to just before the events of Wolf 359 by Q, and given the opportunity to save his father and the USS Righteous from being vaporized by the Borg.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_Borg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GvEDBHAld8

It basically plays out like a TNG episode. If you like interactive movie games and are a fan of Trek, it’s amazing. I really enjoyed playing it when I was younger.

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chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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chyron got the reference. 😃

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I don’t understand why Vulcans haven’t never been given a makeover. The Klingons have been tinkered with, what, two, three times now to make them more alien in appearance? Yet the Vulcans remain exactly the way they’ve been since 1967 — humans with pointy ears and eyebrows. I can understand not messing with Spock — he’s half-human, he’s iconic, he’s perfect as-is — but full-blooded Vulcans couldn’t do with some upgrading? C’mon.

I think the Romulan redesign for TNG would serve as a good template for a Vulcan redesign. Just add more green to their physiology — their skin, their eyes, even their teeth — to make them really distinct from humanity.

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I want to agree with you, but you said

haven’t never

And I just can’t bring myself to support that.

And no the things I post when drunk don’t count against me.

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Am I the only person who hates the Romulan redesign? Vulcans and Romulans don’t need to look all that different. They have distinctive features. The Klingon change makes sense because they were originally just humans with brown grease paint smeared on their faces, and… beards. Creating distinctive features for the Klingons just makes them as distinctive as everyone else already was. Vulcans are Humans with elf ears, angry eyebrows, and pale skin. Orion are green Humans. Andorians are blue Humans with antennae. Klingons are now Humans with forehead ridges. I don’t see why Vulcans need to change any more than the rest of them do.

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Dek Rollins said:

I don’t see why Vulcans need to change any more than the rest of them do.

Speaking only for myself, I think the design is lame, especially in this day and age.

Of course, I’m not a fan of “human” aliens to begin with. Why make them aliens if they’re nearly identical to humans? May as well make them human offshoots.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

Dek Rollins said:

I don’t see why Vulcans need to change any more than the rest of them do.

I’m not a fan of “human” aliens to begin with. Why make them aliens if they’re nearly identical to humans? May as well make them human offshoots.

Humanoid.*

The reason why the different races are humanoid is because they are all offshoots from the same parent species, but not from humans. Humans are also offshoots.

http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/The_Chase_(episode)
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Ancient_humanoid

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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chyron8472 said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Dek Rollins said:

I don’t see why Vulcans need to change any more than the rest of them do.

I’m not a fan of “human” aliens to begin with. Why make them aliens if they’re nearly identical to humans? May as well make them human offshoots.

Humanoid.*

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HumanAliens

The reason why the different races are humanoid is because they are all offshoots from the same parent species, but not from humans. Humans are also offshoots.

http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/The_Chase_(episode)
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Ancient_humanoid

Yeah, I’m aware of that junk science explanation.

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Well they originated during TOS, and having them be Humanoid was the only way to make them convincing.

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Possessed said:

Well they originated during TOS, and having them be Humanoid was the only way to make them convincing.

My philosophy is if you can’t make truly alien aliens, don’t include aliens in your story. The Trek universe is a largely anthropocentric universe anyway, so it would’ve been a better course of action to have made the Vulcans/Klingons/etc. derivations of humanity and left non-human entities out of the picture entirely.