Random Thoughts — Page 743

Possessed said:

Jesus fucking christ you guys are some whiny shits. 3 pages of fighting just because somebody fucking asked what a word they didn’t understand meant? And they weren’t even advocating it’s use either, they were simply asking what it meant since it had already been said. Holy shit. I should have just let you people think I died in the woods and never came back. Fuck this place.

Frink =/= “you people”

“People” implies that someone other than Frink was being a whiny asshat.

Possessed said:

yes Dom you may join me in the woods.

*Ash

TV’s Frink said:

Jeebus said:

TV’s Frink said:

Jeebus said:

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chyron8472 said:

Handman said:

So traps are guys who dress like girls, but it’s crazy to think that makes them a transvestite? I never heard the “trap” term until four or five years ago.

Do you even know the difference?

Traps are guys who dress convincingly like attractive girls.

Wrong. “Traps” are not guys who dress convincingly like attractive girls. “Transvestites” are (typically) guys who dress like girls. “Traps” are derogatory terms for a subset of transvestites who apparently dress like attractive girls just to humiliate people like you who are uncomfortable around gay people.

You’re confusing the definitions.

How so?

Defamatory: “deceptive,” “fooling,” “pretending,” “posing,” “trap,” or “masquerading”
Gender identity is an integral part of a person’s identity. Do not characterize transgender people as “deceptive,” as “fooling” or “trapping” others, or as “pretending” to be, “posing” or “masquerading” as a man or a woman. Such descriptions are inaccurate, defamatory and insulting. (See “passing” and “stealth” as problematic terms above.)

JEDIT: That refers to transgenders rather than transvestites but I thought the concept (re: trap) was the same.

Yeah, that was my issue. Replace “transvestites” with “transgenders,” and that would pretty much fix it. But the bigger issue here is that I don’t think that’s the way Handman or Chyron are using the term.

But how can you use the term “trap” without it being derogatory?

Because he isn’t using it as an insult.

TV’s Frink said:

moviefreakedmind said:

TV’s Frink said:

Jeebus said:

TV’s Frink said:

Jeebus said:

TV’s Frink said:

chyron8472 said:

Handman said:

So traps are guys who dress like girls, but it’s crazy to think that makes them a transvestite? I never heard the “trap” term until four or five years ago.

Do you even know the difference?

Traps are guys who dress convincingly like attractive girls.

Wrong. “Traps” are not guys who dress convincingly like attractive girls. “Transvestites” are (typically) guys who dress like girls. “Traps” are derogatory terms for a subset of transvestites who apparently dress like attractive girls just to humiliate people like you who are uncomfortable around gay people.

You’re confusing the definitions.

How so?

Defamatory: “deceptive,” “fooling,” “pretending,” “posing,” “trap,” or “masquerading”
Gender identity is an integral part of a person’s identity. Do not characterize transgender people as “deceptive,” as “fooling” or “trapping” others, or as “pretending” to be, “posing” or “masquerading” as a man or a woman. Such descriptions are inaccurate, defamatory and insulting. (See “passing” and “stealth” as problematic terms above.)

JEDIT: That refers to transgenders rather than transvestites but I thought the concept (re: trap) was the same.

Yeah, that was my issue. Replace “transvestites” with “transgenders,” and that would pretty much fix it. But the bigger issue here is that I don’t think that’s the way Handman or Chyron are using the term.

But how can you use the term “trap” without it being derogatory?

Because he isn’t using it as an insult.

Removing the rest of my post removed context. And his follow up posts indicate he’s using it as an insult, even if he somehow doesn’t understand that’s what he’s doing.

I didn’t see his follow up posts when I responded to that. Calling someone a trap is probably pretty insulting. Saying the word trap for whatever reason isn’t necessarily insulting. It’s all about context.