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Most likely, but who knows? Might just as well be an assumption that got spread along with the rumor it was based on.
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Meanwhile, in Discovery news:
EXCLUSIVE: The Closer creator James Duff has joined CBS All Access’ Star Trek: Discovery as executive producer. It is part of an overall development deal he has signed with series producer CBS TV Studios.
Additionally, writer Jenny Lumet (Rachel Getting Married), who joined the series as a consulting producer at the start of Season 2, has been promoted to co-executive producer. Co-executive producer Olatunde Osunsanmi has been upped to executive producer and will serve as the series’ producer/director based on set in Toronto.
Yes, let’s bring more people in who are in no way veterans of the franchise or know what makes Trek feel like Trek.
That’s ridiculous. Only people who are Trek veterans are allowed to work on Trek? Come on.
Well having SOME people who understand Star Trek on board would be nice
You don’t have to be a veteran to “get” Star Trek.
Also, I don’t think the show’s main issue is “not getting Star Trek.”
What would you say the main issue is?
Subpar writing in general.
And basically no likeable characters, at least for me. Tilly is OK, in some episodes.Saru is OK, in some episodes. And that’s it.
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These veterans were newcomers at some point too. Nicholas Meyer knew jack shit about it when he started with Star Trek II, but he quickly realized what made the show special. And if you just keep with the same veterans, things just get stale, and you get Voyager. There’s a reason Trek died off.
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Well if you look at the previous series, all of the time the writing staff consisted of people who had previous Star Trek credits and absolute newcomers. The Discovery team had who? Fuller was kicked off early on, Meyer was just an consultant and was kicked out pretty soon too, Joe Menosky, one of my favourite Trek writers had 1 writing credit on Discovery before he joined the Orville writing team.
Meyer is not a really good example, he never knew or understood Star Trek, but he always understood drama, and he understood people. And all of the 3 movies he (co-)wrote were great interpersonal dramas. Discovery feels like it was written by computers who tried to emulate human behaviour (and not very successfully), and not by actual humans.
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The Star Trek franchise had a bedrock production team that worked on every series from TNG through to Enterprise. It was a family.
When it came time to do Discovery they approached CBS to let them know they were ready and willing to continue. CBS response was “your services are not required.”
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Meyer is not a really good example, he never knew or understood Star Trek, but he always understood drama, and he understood people. And all of the 3 movies he (co-)wrote were great interpersonal dramas.
So you made the point then. It doesn’t matter if you know the material, if you know what you’re doing.
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Meyer is not a really good example, he never knew or understood Star Trek, but he always understood drama, and he understood people. And all of the 3 movies he (co-)wrote were great interpersonal dramas.
So you made the point then. It doesn’t matter if you know the material, if you know what you’re doing.
Which apparently the Discovery team does not.
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I’ve never seen a minute of the show, so I’m not weighing in on the show specifically either way.
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I’m not interested in Enterprise for the same reasons I’m not interested in Voyager (3rd rate TNG clone that wastes its potential)
I’ve heard people say they don’t like Voyager because it so easily set up an environment for the Maquis and Starfleet crews to be at odds with each other, but does nothing with it.
I suppose that might be true, but if I recall correctly from the episode Learning Curve, the reason why the Maquis don’t mutiny is because they’d answer to Chakotay, who would promptly punch them in the face.
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Given how far from home they were, mutiny against the whole Starfleet crew would be a really dumb option. Really, Starfleet and the Maquis should’ve mutinied against Janeway for getting them stranded there all because of her totally inaccurate interpretation of the Prime Directive.
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The Star Trek franchise had a bedrock production team that worked on every series from TNG through to Enterprise. It was a family.
When it came time to do Discovery they approached CBS to let them know they were ready and willing to continue. CBS response was “your services are not required.”
Where were you in '77?
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I’m well into the second season of TOS. It’s been years since I watched them. They are still mostly pretty good, it’s getting a bit tiring wondering “which alien is Kirk going to explain what love is and then make out with in this one?” Though.
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It was the ‘60’s, man. And that’s kind of TOS’ thing. Just like TNG’s was Data trying to be more human and the holodeck almost gets people killed on a regular basis. 😉
Where were you in '77?
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When does Enterprise get good? The theme song, writing, acting (etc) of the few episodes I watched bored me.
Random thought I had: with transporter and replicator technology, would be possible to pull off some great heists, like stealing the Mona Lisa replacing it with replica.
The blue elephant in the room.
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I hear it gets better by the third season. I never bothered watching them all.
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When does Enterprise get good? The theme song, writing, acting (etc) of the few episodes I watched bored me.
Random thought I had: with transporter and replicator technology, would be possible to pull off some great heists, like stealing the Mona Lisa replacing it with replica.
never, at least up to the point I quit watching it.
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When does Enterprise get [subjective opinion]? The [everything important] of the [unspecified particular] episodes I watched bored me.
I don’t see how you could get a proper recommendation out of this. There is no equivalent Riker-beard event that happens in Enterprise. If you think Commander Shran is boring, I’m not sure what to tell you.
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One of Enterprise’s saving graces was we got to see a lot of Andorians. (And Jeffrey Combs was awesome as Shran.) I think they are my second favorite Trek aliens now. Previous series (except for TAS) all but ignored them. Didn’t Rick Berman have issues with alien antennae or something?
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I really liked Scott Bakula’s Archer. He does a really good job of being authoritative yet friendly with his crew, and a good mix of being level-headed and emotionally driven. Also, I love how Trip and Malcolm relate to each other (“keep your shirt on, Lieutenant.”)
Mayweather and Hoshi are also both great, but I really liked T’Pol better before Trellium mucked with her emotions. I used to think that the uncertainty and breathiness in her late-season-3-through-season-4 dialogue was Jolene Blalock trying to convey that constant emotional battle T’Pol now deals with, but then I discovered Blalock’s Ishta in Stargate SG-1 sounds exactly the same, so I don’t know what to make of it.
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I thought Enterprise was great from day 1. Yes, it had weaker episodes during the first 2 seasons, the third season is really good in my opinion, and the 4th season is just fan service, which some people apparently like. The character dynamic was the best since TOS. The acting was fine except for Jolene - most of the time she looks and sounds like she is desperately trying not to start laughing. I thought the show was a huge improvement after Voyager, a show filled with boring characters and technobabble.
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Man the thing I love about Enterprise is that everything Kirk supposedly did first was actually done first by this Archer guy. That’s the best and most original writing to come out of Star Trek in years.
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SONIC RACES THROUGH THE GREEN FIELDS.
THE SUN RACES THROUGH A BLUE SKY FILLED WITH WHITE CLOUDS.
THE WAYS OF HIS HEART ARE MUCH LIKE THE SUN. SONIC RUNS AND RESTS; THE SUN RISES AND SETS.
DON’T GIVE UP ON THE SUN. DON’T MAKE THE SUN LAUGH AT YOU.
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Man the thing I love about Enterprise is that everything Kirk supposedly did first was actually done first by this Archer guy. That’s the best and most original writing to come out of Star Trek in years.
Dammit. If I had known that from the start, I would’ve watched this years ago and made it my #1 priority to rewatch it every year.
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Man the thing I love about Enterprise is that everything Kirk supposedly did first was actually done first by this Archer guy. That’s the best and most original writing to come out of Star Trek in years.
What did Kirk supposedly do first that no one else in the whole of Starfleet couldn’t have similarly done previously? By the time Kirk became a captain, Starfleet had been around for over a hundred years.
Enterprise doesn’t retcon Kirk doing anything first. And just because Kirk is routinely going where no man has gone before doesn’t mean no man has ever been anywhere Kirk ever goes.
Man the thing I love about Enterprise is that everything Kirk supposedly did first was actually done first by this Archer guy. That’s the best and most original writing to come out of Star Trek in years.
Dammit. If I had known that from the start, I would’ve watched this years ago and made it my #1 priority to rewatch it every year.
Except that his saying that would fall flat on its face had he actually watched the show.
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Man the thing I love about Enterprise is that everything Kirk supposedly did first was actually done first by this Archer guy. That’s the best and most original writing to come out of Star Trek in years.
What did Kirk supposedly do first that no one else in the whole of Starfleet couldn’t have similarly done previously? By the time Kirk became a captain, Starfleet had been around for hundreds of years.
Enterprise doesn’t retcon Kirk doing anything first. And just because Kirk is routinely going where no man has gone before doesn’t mean no man has ever been anywhere Kirk ever goes.
Kirk apologist!
The blue elephant in the room.