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MalàStrana said:

SilverWook said:

It’s a great time to be a Kim or Trump lookalike though. 😉

The guy is good at what he does. After years of US warmongers, I salute one US president who’s really doing what he promised. In France we have Macron, an anti-social capitalist, twin brother of Trudeau. You get to have Trump in the US and you dare complaining about him 😄

The only thing funnier than this post is the post that you’ve chosen to quote.

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MalàStrana said:

SilverWook said:

It’s a great time to be a Kim or Trump lookalike though. 😉

The guy is good at what he does. After years of US warmongers, I salute one US president who’s really doing what he promised. In France we have Macron, an anti-social capitalist, twin brother of Trudeau. You get to have Trump in the US and you dare complaining about him 😄

is this actually what you think?

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Mala’s post made me wonder what the French are saying.

Nothing surprising, but a line in the newspaper LeMonde amused me, attributing the meeting in part to:

La rhétorique belliqueuse de Donald Trump…

Which sounds like it could mean (but sadly doesn’t) “the belly language of Donald Trump,” which is what I think may bring about peace.

The blue elephant in the room.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

Careful, Mala. Your trolling is slipping back into overt mode.

Trolling or willfully ignorant? The world will never know.

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Mrebo said:

Mala’s post made me wonder what the French are saying.

Nothing surprising, but a line in the newspaper LeMonde amused me, attributing the meeting in part to:

La rhétorique belliqueuse de Donald Trump…

Which sounds like it could mean (but sadly doesn’t) “the belly language of Donald Trump,” which is what I think may bring about peace.

“The bellicose rhetoric of Donald Trump…”

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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Take it to the Good News thread.

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Can’t find the Video Game thread so I’ll put it here, but here’s some more video game PC revisionist history bullshit. The articles I found, including this one, were all written by historically illiterate fools so you’ll have to read through the idiocy. I guess that’s not surprising, though, since 99% of the motherfuckers on this shithole planet are historically illiterate fools.

https://innotechtoday.com/battlefield-5/

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They should’ve condemned him during the election. The fascist policies of the Trump administration were clear campaign promises.

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Oh yeah that’s right. Right-wing authoritarian judges are really important.

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[TV Frink’s turn to post.]

The blue elephant in the room.

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moviefreakedmind said:

Can’t find the Video Game thread

In the Media subcategory

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Video-Game-Thread/id/1456

moviefreakedmind said:

here’s some more video game PC revisionist history bullshit.

Battlefield is supposed to be historically accurate?

Yes, women were in the military but they were not in roles designated for combat. But again, it’s a video game, and it doesn’t have to reflect historical accuracy.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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chyron8472 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Can’t find the Video Game thread

In the Media subcategory

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Video-Game-Thread/id/1456

moviefreakedmind said:

here’s some more video game PC revisionist history bullshit.

Battlefield is supposed to be historically accurate?

I don’t know about Battlefield, but older WW2 games, the kind I played as a youth in order to distract myself from how much everything sucked, paid great attention to historical accuracy. Everything looked and felt like WWII, including, by the way, women and black soldiers fighting in settings where they actually fought. In an old Medal of Honor there were black soldiers in the Battle of the Bulge levels because the military was desegregated for that battle. And women were Russian snipers and were in the French resistance. I don’t get the need to lie about history and I hate fake history. I’m a big history buff.

Yes, women were in the military but they were not in roles designated for combat. But again, it’s a video game, and it doesn’t have to reflect historical accuracy.

It should. I find revisionist history to be quite sickening. Call of Duty WWII took it way too far and decided to portray Nazi Germany as a place tolerant of racial diversity. That’s sickening and dangerous to me. It’s a great example of how stupid other people are. The people that would be offended by there not being black soldiers in the German army are stupid, and the people that think women with robot metal arms fought in WWII are also stupid. I just feel like a total alien on this planet.

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moviefreakedmind said:

chyron8472 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Can’t find the Video Game thread

In the Media subcategory

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Video-Game-Thread/id/1456

moviefreakedmind said:

here’s some more video game PC revisionist history bullshit.

Battlefield is supposed to be historically accurate?

I don’t know about Battlefield, but older WW2 games, the kind I played as a youth in order to distract myself from how much everything sucked, paid great attention to historical accuracy. Everything looked and felt like WWII, including, by the way, women and black soldiers fighting in settings where they actually fought. In an old Medal of Honor there were black soldiers in the Battle of the Bulge levels because the military was desegregated for that battle. And women were Russian snipers and were in the French resistance. I don’t get the need to lie about history and I hate fake history. I’m a big history buff.

Yes, women were in the military but they were not in roles designated for combat. But again, it’s a video game, and it doesn’t have to reflect historical accuracy.

It should. I find revisionist history to be quite sickening.

But I don’t think COD or BF should have to be confined by “that didn’t actually happen”. Yes, portraying the Nazis as open to racial diversity is completely ignorant of the core ideology of the Nazi Party itself. But having women, bionic or otherwise, in a video game designed to entertain the modern market, doesn’t really have anything to do with rewriting the past for some liberalist agenda.

It’s just a story told to entertain. One might as well complain that the real John Adams didn’t actually have a telepathic connection to his wife as portrayed in the film/play 1776… or complain that the actual Declaration of Independence shouldn’t be depicted as physically signed, pen to paper, by all the delegates on July 4th, since the reality is that it actually wasn’t.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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chyron8472 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

chyron8472 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Can’t find the Video Game thread

In the Media subcategory

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Video-Game-Thread/id/1456

moviefreakedmind said:

here’s some more video game PC revisionist history bullshit.

Battlefield is supposed to be historically accurate?

I don’t know about Battlefield, but older WW2 games, the kind I played as a youth in order to distract myself from how much everything sucked, paid great attention to historical accuracy. Everything looked and felt like WWII, including, by the way, women and black soldiers fighting in settings where they actually fought. In an old Medal of Honor there were black soldiers in the Battle of the Bulge levels because the military was desegregated for that battle. And women were Russian snipers and were in the French resistance. I don’t get the need to lie about history and I hate fake history. I’m a big history buff.

Yes, women were in the military but they were not in roles designated for combat. But again, it’s a video game, and it doesn’t have to reflect historical accuracy.

It should. I find revisionist history to be quite sickening.

But I don’t think COD or BF should have to be confined by “that didn’t actually happen”. Yes, portraying the Nazis as open to racial diversity is completely ignorant of the core ideology of the Nazi Party itself. But having women, bionic or otherwise, in a video game designed to entertain the modern market, doesn’t really have anything to do with rewriting the past for some liberalist agenda.

It’s not a liberalist agenda, it’s a corporatist agenda and all it shows is that the modern market is stupid, as are the people making the games. I hate bad “art” and I consider video games an art and if they want some weird ahistorical game in the WWII setting then they should make a Wolfenstein type game, not a WWII game. Or, better yet, just make it actually historically believable. Focus it on a woman in the french resistance, or a Soviet woman sniper, or a black unit in the US army. Of course they would never be brave enough to have a game where the entire unit is black, that’d be way to much for the corporate suits to greenlight so they’ll settle for sugarcoating history and putting a token black guy in the background. I’m sick of being expected to pat the corporate suits on the back for some BS PC quota that they filled. I hate it, I hate them. There’s nothing shocking here. 99% of all things and all people are full of shit, so this is just one of many stupid cultural things for me to complain about.

It’s just a story told to entertain. One might as well complain that the real John Adams didn’t actually have a telepathic connection to his wife as portrayed in the film/play 1776… or complain that the actual Declaration of Independence shouldn’t be depicted as physically signed, pen to paper, by all the delegates on July 4th, since the reality is that it actually wasn’t.

Those are very specific things that are done for dramatic developments in those stories. Better examples would be portraying the Declaration as having been signed by people with bionic arms or by American Indians. All it shows is a total ignorance of history and it’s done to appeal to unintelligent people that are won over by such things. It’s also, ironically, kind of offensive. Portraying America as a place of racial harmony back then is an insult to the people that overcame the racist bullshit back then and today. Portraying Nazi Germany as a place of racial harmony is sickening and downright disturbing.

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Respawning is historically inaccurate.

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moviefreakedmind said:

All it shows is a total ignorance of history and it’s done to appeal to unintelligent people that are won over by such things.

So Oklahoma! is offensive because people never thought Oklahoma was so wonderful that they would break out into song and dance about it?

I’m just saying that storytelling doesn’t have to be true-to-history. If people are stupid enough to cite the fiction as fact, that’s on the stupid people for not doing their research, not the writers of the fiction. It’s not akin to peddling fake news that dupe the gullible, as Fox News does, since the game never claims to be an accurate depiction.

I understand that Gladiator and The Patriot are largely popcorn movies, and Apollo 13 has obvious inaccuracies if you know anything about NASA’s standard procedures. If people use these films as sources to cite actual events, that’s on them for being ignorant, not the writers for telling a story people will enjoy.

DominicCobb said:

Respawning is historically inaccurate.

Also this.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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DominicCobb said:

Respawning is historically inaccurate.

I don’t play online multiplayer. In the games I’m talking about you’d have to just restart the level when you got killed. I know that games aren’t reality, but I prefer them to at least make an honest attempt at resembling the historical period that they’re attempting to portray. If they aren’t going to try, then make a game that doesn’t need to be historically accurate, like a Wolfenstein.

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chyron8472 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

All it shows is a total ignorance of history and it’s done to appeal to unintelligent people that are won over by such things.

So Oklahoma! is offensive because people never thought Oklahoma was so wonderful that they would break out into song and dance about it?

It’s a totally different art form.

I’m just saying that storytelling doesn’t have to be true-to-history. If people are stupid enough to cite the fiction as fact, that’s on the stupid people for not doing their research, not the writers of the fiction. It’s not akin to peddling fake news that dupe the gullible, as Fox News does, since the game never claims to be an accurate depiction.

Actually they do. They’re all about “war like never before” and other bullshit marketing gimmicks. And stop with this “storytelling” bullshit. This is corporate drivel and their focus groups have told them that women with cybernetic arms fighting in WWII would bring in more customers.

I understand that Gladiator and The Patriot are largely popcorn movies. And Apollo 13 has obvious inaccuracies if you know anything about NASA’s standard procedures. If people use these films as sources to cite actual events, that’s on them for being stupid.

I can forgive minor deviations. The overall setting was still accurate though. For example, in Forrest Gump the Ford assassination attempt is portrayed as having involved multiple gunshots instead of one. I can forgive that inaccuracy. If the film had said that Ford was stabbed by a Soviet Union spy, then that would be a problem for me. I’ve never seen Gladiator and I don’t even like the Patriot so I don’t know what to say there. I don’t know what you’re getting at with people citing things as actual events. I don’t give a fuck what people cite. (I do hate people, after all.) My problem is that another thing that I kind of liked back in the day, first-person shooters in a historical setting, has been ruined. That’s my problem.

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moviefreakedmind said:

DominicCobb said:

Respawning is historically inaccurate.

I don’t play online multiplayer. In the games I’m talking about you’d have to just restart the level when you got killed. I know that games aren’t reality, but I prefer them to at least make an honest attempt at resembling the historical period that they’re attempting to portray. If they aren’t going to try, then make a game that doesn’t need to be historically accurate, like a Wolfenstein.

That’s silly. Games are silly. Who cares. Don’t play it if it bothers you so much.

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DominicCobb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

DominicCobb said:

Respawning is historically inaccurate.

I don’t play online multiplayer. In the games I’m talking about you’d have to just restart the level when you got killed. I know that games aren’t reality, but I prefer them to at least make an honest attempt at resembling the historical period that they’re attempting to portray. If they aren’t going to try, then make a game that doesn’t need to be historically accurate, like a Wolfenstein.

That’s silly. Games are silly. Who cares. Don’t play it if it bothers you so much.

I won’t. And games aren’t silly. There have been many games that have changed my life for the better. I’m annoyed because if it weren’t a dumb Rambo-style pile of shit with revisionist history nonsense that makes the game not even resemble the time period it’s set in, then I would probably buy it. I liked those old shooters, and now they all suck. That annoys me.

I don’t like enough things to be able to just cavalierly discard things that I like. When things that I enjoy get fucked with, I get upset.

Just so you all know, I got equally mad when they ruined the James Bond video games and turned them into boring, crappy Bourne Identity ripoffs.

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